HomeMy WebLinkAbout1991 10-16 PRMMINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
FOR THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
REGULAR SESSION
OCTOBER 16, 1991
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Sorenson called the meeting of the park and
recreation commission to order at 7:49 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairperson Sorenson, Commissioners Pollock, Shinnick and Russell.
Also present were City Councilmember Jerry Pedlar, Director of
Recreation Arnie Mavis and Recording Secretary Geralyn Barone.
Commissioners Mead, Skeels and Peterson were absent from this
evening's meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17. 1991
There was a motion by commissioner Shinnick and seconded by
Commissioner Russell to approve the minutes of the September 17,
1991, park and recreation commission meeting as submitted. The
motion passed.
BROOKLYN CENTER YOUTH HOCKEY ASSOCIATION REOUEST
Chairperson Sorenson recognized Mr. Wayne Finley, a representative
of the Brooklyn Center Youth Hockey Association (BCYHA) and a
teacher at Earle Brown Elementary School, who said BCYHA is asking
for help to maintain its organization in the absence of a local
arena. He said there are about 100 players in the association,
and the 1991-1992 operating budget is approximately $24,000. The
per-child cost for participating in the program ranges from $65 to
$305. Mr. Finley said in a letter sent to City Manager Gerald
Splinter, the BCYHA requested assistance from the City in the
amount of $10,350 (50 percent of one year's budget). He said this
would cut the participation cost in half for Brooklyn Center kids,
and he reviewed what could be done with this additional
assistance. Mr. Finley posed the question of why the City of
Brooklyn Center should pay, and said BCYHA is the only hockey
organization in 'Brooklyn Center, the park and recreation
department used to have a hockey program, and there is no on-site
arena. He reviewed past fund-raising efforts and noted BCYHA has
no pull-tab money available to assist in its budget. He added
BCYHA has never asked the City to help run the program in the
past.
Chairperson Sorenson asked what the history of the park and
recreation program has been, and the Director of Recreation said
23 years ago the City began running a hockey program in six parks,
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with two teams in each age group. He added there were many
children who participated. Gradually, the program was downsized
as the number of area children dwindled. The Director of
Recreation said approximately eight years ago there were ten
teams, and Brooklyn Center joined with neighboring cities to run
a league. He added approximately two years ago, the schools began
participating more, and the program was eliminated by the City
because there were not enough children participating.
Chairperson Sorenson asked how much money the City of Brooklyn
Center contributed to a hockey program, and the Director of
Recreation said the City budgeted a couple thousand dollars for
the costs of referees and a program coordinator. Mr. Finley said
the costs have increased immensely, especially with insurance and
registered officials adding to expenses. The Director of
Recreation noted the park and recreation department wanted to run
a program, but no one wanted to play in it.
Councilmember Pedlar asked how many Brooklyn Center children are
in the BCYHA, and Mr. Finley said there are 98 kids from all over
Brooklyn Center. Councilmember Pedlar asked how many Brooklyn
Center children do not make the team after tryouts. Mr. Finley
said several kids are cut from teams, but arrangements are made
for them to play on another league team in Brooklyn Park or
elsewhere. Councilmember Pedlar asked for clarification between
the "C" league and other teams, and Mr. Finley explained the
differences between the "A," "B" and "C" teams.
Chairperson Sorenson asked if BCYHA is affiliated with a certain
hockey association, and Mr. Finley responded it is part of the
Minnesota Amateur Hockey Association. Chairperson Sorenson asked
what the relationship of the hockey program is to the schools, and
Mr. Finley said it is a feeder program. Chairperson Sorenson
asked when teams start in schools, and Mr. Finley said the program
starts at the tenth grade level. The Director of Recreation said
there were programs in the junior high schools at one point in
time.
Councilmember Pedlar asked if the hockey program will eventually
die out if the City does not contribute, and Mr. Finley said this
is his perception. Councilmember Pedlar asked if the total cost
to play is over $300 per player, and Mr. Finley responded
affirmatively. Councilmember Pedlar asked if this proposal is
recommended to the city council, would the BCYHA see this as an
annual or a one-time contribution. Mr. Finley requested an annual
contribution. Chairperson Sorenson confirmed that the association
is requesting $10,350 for this season. Councilmember Pedlar asked
what the costs are for a "C" team in Brooklyn Center and if there
is an opportunity to run such a team. Mr. Finley said there is
enough interest for two teams. Councilmember Pedlar asked if
there are a lot of children who wish to play but do not do so
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because of competition, the fear of being cut, and the prohibitive
cost. Mr. Finley responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Russell asked how much of the uniform is provided,
and Mr. Finley said uniforms and equipment are supplied. Mr.
Finley said equipment costs are approximately $400 to $500 per
player.
The Director of Recreation said he feels the hockey program is
great; but from a budget standpoint, it may be difficult to find
the money. He said he is not against the proposal, but it is up
to the city council to find the money to fund this program. He
added the City has already cut its budget by $240,000.
A resident said the City must realize it is a tier-one city, so it
is important to provide opportunities to bring families into our
community. He added youth sports provide this opportunity and
said BCYHA needs the help and support of the City for the children
who want to play, since there are many children who want to play
and cannot. He added when kids are playing sports, they are off
of the streets.
Chairperson Sorenson said at one point, the park and recreation
commission recommended to the city council that it fund a
feasibility study for an ice arena. There was brief discussion on
the status of this study.
Mr. Noah Bridges said he sees the City shoving away young families
if it does not choose to assist the hockey association.
Commissioner Russell said he does not know where the City will
come up with the money. Commissioner Pollock said BCYHA has a
very valid argument, and the City needs to be supportive of it.
However, coming up with the money is a problem. Chairperson
Sorenson discussed the payment of nonresident fees for kids to
play in Brooklyn Park. Commissioner Shinnick said the City should
find the money to assist the hockey association. Chairperson
Sorenson agreed it would make the community more attractive to new
residents.
Councilmember Pedlar said he hears consensus for support of the
BCYHA request and said the commission can approve a recommendation
to the city council. He feels it would behoove the city council
to hear the arguments presented by the hockey association.
There was a motion by commissioner shinnick and seconded by
commissioner Pollock to recommend to the city council that it
assist the Brooklyn Center Youth Hockey Association in the amount
of $10,350 for 1992.
There was further discussion on the revenue and budget situation.
Ms. Donna Stoderl encouraged residents to provide input to the
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city council during the budget process to assist them in making
funding decisions.
Upon vote being taken on the foregoing motion, the motion passed.
Councilmember Pedlar reviewed the role of the City's financial
task force and said he would mention this recommendation to the
task force.
RECESS
There was a motion by commissioner Russell and seconded by
commissioner shinnick to recess the meeting. The motion passed.
The park and recreation commission recessed at 8:36 p.m. and
reconvened at 8:45 p.m.
WATER SLIDE PROPOSAL - STATUS REPORT
The Director of Recreation said the bids for the water slide will
be opened tomorrow. He reviewed plans approved by the Minnesota
Department of Health. Construction will start on December 2,
1991, and the pool should open with the new water slide on January
24, 1992.
The Director of Recreation said he met with the Brooklyn Swim Club
(BSC), and an agreement was reached for the City to receive 20
percent of the gross revenues, up to $800, for the June swimming
meet. Chairperson Sorenson said he feels the City would not be
getting much more than it had in the past from BSC. The Director
of Recreation said the City received about $300 from past meets.
Commissioner Shinnick pointed out the hockey program runs with
volunteers, while BSC pays approximately $35,000 for coaches'
salaries. Councilmember Pedlar noted in order for BSC to compete
at state and national levels, there is an absolute need for top
coaching. He felt as long as some agreement was reached, this is
a positive step. It was noted there will be one less lane for
swimming competition and less visibility for spectators at the
swim meet due to the water slide. The Director of Recreation said
more details about the schedule for the water slide should be
known after next Monday's council meeting.
WANGSTAD PARK PLAYGROUND EOUIPMENT
The Director of Recreation said he received a phone call from a
resident who had some concerns regarding the playground equipment
at Wangstad Park. - He invited the resident to attend the park and
recreation commission meeting, but she is not in attendance this
evening. He added the City's maintenance staff did investigate
the concerns. Chairperson Sorenson asked if any improvements have
been recommended for this park, and the Director of Recreation
said routine maintenance is the only request.
REPLACEMENT OF PLAYGROUND EOUIPMENT
The Director of Recreation said by April of each year, the City
should determine which playgrounds need repairs and upgrades.
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Chairperson Sorenson said this item will be moved to next month's
agenda for further discussion. He requested that some
recommendations from the supervisor of parks be available and that
the inventory of park equipment be included with the next agenda
packet.
There was brief discussion regarding school playgrounds and City
parks that are adjacent to each other.
The Director of Recreation noted there are some shelter buildings
in need of repair. Chairperson Sorenson asked what these
buildings are used for, and the Director of Recreation said they
are used mostly for equipment storage. Chairperson Sorenson
suggested if the buildings are only used for storage, perhaps a
different type of building could be used. The Director of
Recreation said the City is looking into this.
LIONS PARK SHELTER BUILDING
The Director of Recreation said he met with commissioners Shinnick
and Russell as representatives of the Lions Club. There is
interest in building a shelter that could be jointly paid for and
used by both the Lions Club and the City near Lions Park and
Centerbrook Golf Course.
MAINTENANCE STAFFING LEVELS
The Recording Secretary noted several years ago the special levy
for maintaining a certain maintenance level was eliminated by the
legislature. The Director of Recreation said additional park
maintenance was deleted from the 1991 budget, and there has been
one additional reduction through retirement.
ADOPT-A-PARK PROGRAM
The Director of Recreation said he feels an Adopt-A-Park Program
may help reduce the City's maintenance costs. He said in some
cities, cleanups are held two-to-three times a year or once a
month. The Director of Recreation said a proposal can be prepared
to disseminate to civic groups and other interested parties in
January, so such a program could begin promotion at that time.
Commissioner Pollock suggested signs be erected to acknowledge the
work done by certain groups. She suggested the City should check
with the City of Champlin to see how its program works. The
Director of Recreation said he will obtain this information.
Chairperson Sorenson said this item will be discussed further at
the next meeting.
TWIN LAKE COMMITTEE UPDATE
The Director of Recreation said the next meeting is scheduled for
November 7 at 7 p.m. in Brooklyn Center.
RIVER RIDGE PARK
The Director of Recreation said there is no news from the county
on this park.
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OTHER BUSINESS
The Director of Recreation said the golf course has not had as
good of a year as in the past because rain has hampered business.
There was brief discussion regarding the Little League Program,
and this item will be further discussed at the next commission
meeting.
NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA
The next park and recreation commission meeting is scheduled for
November 19, 1991, at 7:30 p.m. Agenda items will include:
replacement of playground equipment, maintenance staffing levels,
Adopt-A-Park Program, and a request from the American Little
League.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by commissioner Shinnick and seconded by
Commissioner Russell to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed.
The Brooklyn Center park and recreation commission adjourned at
9:30 p.m.
Chairperson
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