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MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
FOR THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
REGULAR SESSION
NOVEMBER 20, 1990
.CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Sorenson called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairperson Sorenson, Commissioners Russell, Shinneck, Peterson,
and Skeels. Also present were City Council Liaison Jerry Pedlar,
Director of Recreation Arnie Mavis, and Recording Secretary
Geralyn Barone.
Commissioners Pollock and Mead were excused from this evening's
meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 16. 1990
There was a motion by commissioner Russell and seconded by
Commissioner Shinneck to approve the minutes of the October 16,
1990, park and recreation commission meeting as submitted. The
motion passed.
REOUEST FROM EVERGREEN PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PTO
David Helfinsteine, Keith Carlson, and Gary Mattson of Evergreen
Park Elementary School Parent Teacher Organization (PTO)
introduced themselves to the Commission as representatives of the
playground committee from the PTO. They reviewed a written
request asking the City to assist in financing a new creative play
area, running track, and fitness station course on the Evergreen
Park Elementary School grounds. Helfinsteine said the school
district is willing to match funds raised by the PTO, so the PTO
is trying to raise 50 percent of the costs. He noted the
committee feels by enhancing the school grounds, the whole area
around it will benefit.
Chairperson Sorenson asked what the arrangement between the City
and Garden City School was in the park development there. The
Director of Recreation said city crews assisted in the
installation of playground equipment. Commissioner Russell
pointed out the Lion's Club donated $3,500 to the Garden City
School for playground equipment. Carlson said the cost cited for
the creative play area is for equipment only, and it is expected
that volunteers will provide the labor to install the equipment.
Commissioner Russell asked if any handicapped equipment will be
installed, and Carlson said approximately one-third of the
creative play equipment will be handicapped accessible.
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The Director of Recreation asked about the size of the running
track, and Carlson said it will be 440 yards. The Director of
Recreation inquired as to the type of material that would be used
for the track, and Carlson said it is expected to be an aggregate
limestone. He noted half of the cost will be for excavation, and
the remaining cost will be for the track itself. He noted it
would be necessary to expand onto City property to install the
running track where desired.
Mattson said the PTO is planning to complete this project by
spring so the equipment can be used in the summer of 1991.
Carlson noted the track would not be needed until the next school
year starting the fall of 1991. The Director of Recreation noted
that it may be difficult to fund the project in 1991.
Councilmember Pedlar noted the City's proposed budget has already
been presented by the City Manager to the City Council. He noted
it has been a very difficult year for working on the budget.
The Recording Secretary asked what the actual request is of the
City. Carlson said the PTO is requesting a maximum of $15,000,
although any amount of assistance, including labor, would be
accepted. Chairperson Sorenson asked if there is anything in the
budget to improve Evergreen Park, and the Director of Recreation
said there is nothing planned at this time. Councilmember Pedlar
said he can bring this proposal forward to the City Council on
behalf of the Commission. Chairperson Sorenson said he is in
favor of projects like this, particularly when the groups involved
raise part of the money themselves.
There was a motion by Commissioner Shinneck and seconded by
Commissioner Russell to recommend to the City Council that $15,000
be committed to the Evergreen Park Elementary School playground
additions in 1991 plus the provision of any assistance by City
personnel in providing labor for the project. The motion passed.
Councilmember Pedlar said he will forward this information on to
the City Council and the City Manager.
1989 COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS
The Commission had before it excerpts from the residential survey
done for the City of Brooklyn Center in May 1989 by Decision
Resources, Ltd. Chairperson Sorenson referred to page 103 and
asked what SD #11 refers to. The Recording Secretary said that is
School District Number 11, better known as Anoka-Hennepin School
District. Chairperson Sorenson referenced page 105 and asked what
the definition of a senior citizen is. He said depending on the
definition, he has a concern that the age group of 55 to 64 year
olds were those most opposed to the construction of a senior
citizen drop-in center. Chairperson Sorenson referenced page 109
and pointed out some discrepancies between the acceptable level of
a property tax increase, where it appears that both $25 and $30
would be acceptable levels.
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Councilmember Pedlar said he questions the survey validity for any
decisions made now, because since the survey was done in May 1989,
the economy has changed and there are more spiraling costs. There
was a brief discussion on when the next survey should be
conducted. Chairperson Sorenson noted that in 1991, two years
will have passed since the last survey was done. Councilmember
Pedlar suggested asking Decision Resources, Ltd. how long such a
survey is valid. He said he does not see the demographics
changing significantly over this period time.
Chairperson Sorenson noted the current in-migration suggests there
are more white-collar residents in the city. Councilmember Pedlar
said he personally challenges this. The Director of Recreation
noted that in some areas of the city, older residents are moving
out and younger residents are moving into the city. Chairperson
Sorenson asked if it is really true that the city is gaining more
white-collar residents, and if so, he feels this is good for the
city. The Director of Recreation noted the city has had more
problems with "at risk" kids since the survey was conducted.
Commissioner Peterson said he feels the information provided by
Decision Resources, Ltd. has been very accurate. He noted the
parks received very high ratings, and he finds this to be very
gratifying. Chairperson Sorenson noted the responses regarding
Brooklyn Center as being a complete city with parks, shopping, and
residential areas. There was a brief discussion regarding the
transportation system in the city.
TWIN LAKES AREA DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL (JOSLYN SITE)
The Director of Recreation said he has no update at this time
regarding the Joslyn site. Chairperson Sorenson said he is
interested in having the commission determine what strategy to use
with regard to publicity if the City continues its interest in the
site. He suggested tabling this item to the next Commission
meeting when more information may be available.
RECESS
The Brooklyn Center park and recreation commission recessed at
8:20 p.m. and reconvened at 8:27 p.m.
OTHER BUSINESS
The Recording secretary presented the commission with a summary of
issues related to Twin Lakes that was developed by members of the
City staff who are involved in various aspects affecting Twin
Lakes. She requested the Commission to review the summary and at
the next meeting be prepared to discuss any additions to the list.
The Recording Secretary noted the intent is to have the cities of
Brooklyn Center, Crystal, and Robbinsdale work together, first at
a staff level and then at the Advisory Commission and City Council
levels to work on resolving some of the issues related to Twin
Lakes. This item will be brought back for discussion at the next
Commission meeting.
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SET NEXT MEETING AGENDA
The Recording Secretary said the next meeting is scheduled for
December 18, 1990, at 7:30 p.m. There was a motion by
Commissioner Peterson to cancel the December meeting. The motion
died for lack of a second.
Chairperson Sorenson suggested the Twin Lakes' Area Development
Proposal and the Twin Lakes' - Summary of Issues list be presented
for discussion at the next meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Chairperson Sorenson asked if a sign had been posted at Lion's
Park prohibiting the use of the ball fields by older kids, and the
Director of Recreation said a sign should be posted by spring.
Chairperson Sorenson asked if there was any information on the
Palmer Lake Trail improvements as related to the 69th Avenue North
improvement project and trail system. The Director of Recreation
had no additional information.
SHINGLE CREEK AND PALMER LAKE CLEANUP
The Director of Recreation said commissioner Pollock has met with
Kay Lasman, and the two of them are working on a plan for a clean-
up project of the Shingle Creek/Palmer Lake area.
OTHER BUSINESS (Cont'd.)
Councilmember Pedlar suggested the deterioration of existing park
equipment and new standards for such equipment be discussed by the
Commission, and Chairperson Sorenson said this is a good idea for
a future meeting.
After some discussion, there was a motion by Commissioner Peterson
and seconded by Commissioner Shinneck to recommend to the City
Council to name the arboretum after former Park and Recreation
Director Gene Hagel. The arboretum would be called the Eugene H.
Hagel Arboretum. The motion passed.
The Director of Recreation suggested a dedication of the arboretum
could be done in the spring, and Commissioner Peterson suggested
the dedication occur on Arbor Day. The Director of Recreation
suggested having a Eugene H. Hagel Day designated by the governor.
The Director of Recreation said he has started a preliminary
investigation of installing a waterslide in the Community Center.
He suggested something is needed to boost attendance at the
Center. Chairperson Sorenson inquired about the liabilities of a
waterslide, and Councilmember Pedlar suggested there would be a
great deal of liability for such a feature. Commissioner Shinneck
commented about the litigious society we live in. Councilmember
Pedlar suggested since the swimming pool is not getting a great
deal of use that as an incentive to employees, free memberships
should be provided to them. He said Hennepin County used to offer
health club memberships to its employees. The Director of
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CORRECTION
Recreation said he disagrees with free memberships because it
ould be difficult to draw the line. He said a City employee
should not receive a benefit the taxpayer does not get. It was
suggested that be added as a discussion item
at the next Commission meeting.
The Director of Recreation said "Holly Sunday" is scheduled for
December 2, 1990, at the Community Center. He distributed a flyer
announcing the activities for the day.
The Director of Recreation said at this point in time, there have
been more than 39,000 rounds of golf play at Centerbrook Golf
Course this year.
COMMISSION PLAN OF ACTION '
The Director of Recreation proceeded to provide the Commission
with an update on the status of the Commission's plan of action
items. He said issues affecting Twin Lakes are being studied, and
an effort is being made to work together with the other affected
cities. He noted the city is working with Crystal on the Kylawn
Preserve. With regard to other park improvements, the Director of
Recreation said all park equipment will be reviewed and requests
will be placed in the 1992 City budget. He said the trail system
is moving ahead, and as roads are repaved or added, the trail
system is enhanced. He noted nothing will be done on 69th Avenue
North until the work on the roadway is near completion.
The Director of Recreation said Commissioner Pollock is working
hard to coordinate a clean-up effort of Shingle - %Creek.
Councilmember Pedlar noted that the creek is a beautiful part of
the city which continues to deteriorate, and he does not like the
"it can't be done" attitude. The Director of Recreation said
anything can be done if the money is spent on it. He noted
Shingle Creek carries a great deal of debris, so any clean-up
efforts would have to be continued on a regular basis. The
Director of Recreation said efforts are being made to increase the
involvement of the park and recreation commission and cited the
Twin Lakes' issues as an example of this. Chairperson Sorenson
said the City is doing a very good job now of including the park
and recreation commission. He noted a few years ago, too much of
the commission's work was just to rubber stamp proposals that had
already been established. The Director of Recreation noted that
better use of the facilities at parks has been indicated by a
higher usage of the facilities.
The Director of Recreation proceeded to review the priorities of
pending items. He noted the safety of the Shingle Creek Trailway
crossing at 69th Avenue North will be considered as part of the
69th Avenue North upgrade plan. He said Central Park improvements
will be considered as part of the City's equipment upgrade at the
parks. He said lighting is being added to parks when it is
feasible. Councilmember Pedlar noted he had received some
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complaints regarding the geese in the parks and asked if there are
any efforts for controlling them. The Director of Recreation said
the City Council will consider extending the contract with the
University of Minnesota's Dr. Cooper, who has been providing
assistance to the City in dealing with this issue. There was some
discussion regarding the problem with the geese in City parks.
The Director of Recreation said there may be some additions to the
arboretum. He noted the senior center is on the back burner
because, at this time, it is not financially practical to
construct one. He noted a few bicycle bollards have been added,
although no one seems to use them very much. He said the
expansion of parking at East Palmer Lake Park could be a
possibility. The rest of the items on the priorities of pending
items' list appeared generally not to be feasible at this time.
Chairperson Sorenson said he has used the trail system quite
extensively, especially near the golf course. He noted the area
of the trail near the library is flooded more than it is open.
The Director of Recreation said the City would need a dry year to
do any work on this part of the trail.
There was a motion by Commissioner Skeels and seconded by
Commissioner Russell to add to the priorities list as a short-term
priority for 1992-1993 a recommendation to upgrade the trail
system south of the county library to alleviate flooding and make
it useable. The motion passed.
Commissioner Skeels suggested the City is making pretty good
progress on the Plan of Action List. Chairperson Sorenson noted
the Commission Plan of Action does not have to appear on the
Commission's agenda in order to add items to it.
NEXT MEETING
There was a motion by Commissioner Peterson and seconded by
Commissioner Shinnick to cancel the December 1990 park and
recreation commission meeting. The motion passed. The next park
and recreation commission meeting is scheduled for 7:30 p.m. on
Tuesday, January 15, 1991.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Commissioner Shinnick and seconded by
Commissioner Peterson to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed.
The Brooklyn Center park and recreation commission adjourned at
9:15 p.m.
Chairperson
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