HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987 03-10 PRMMINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
FOR THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
REGULAR SESSION
MARCH 10, 1987
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Sorenson called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairman Sorenson, Commissioners Skeels, Krefting, Peterson, and
Manson. Also present were Councilmember Bill Hawes, Director of
Recreation Arnie Mavis, and Recording Secretary Geralyn Barone.
Commissioner Propst was absent from this evening's meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JANUARY 20. 1987
There was a motion by commission Skeels and seconded by
Commissioner Krefting to approve the minutes of the January 20,
1987 Park and Recreation commission minutes. The motion passed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - FEBRUARY 17. 1987
Chairman Sorenson requested that the minutes of the February 17,
1987 Park and Recreation commission meeting be amended in the
paragraph regarding Year 2000 assignments as follows: "It was
noted that it would be worthless to install a fishing pier on
Twin Lake North at Twin Beach unless the parking problems in the
area are handled". There was a motion by Commissioner Peterson
and seconded by Commissioner Krefting to approve the minutes of
the February 17, 1987 Park and Recreation Commission meeting as
amended. The motion passed.
YEAR 2000 ASSIGNMENTS
The Recording Secretary reported that she had contacted the
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) as requested by the
commission regarding the requirements for landing a sea plane on
area lakes. She reported that FAA Form 7480-1, Notice of
Proposed Landing Area, must be submitted to the FAA. The FAA
conducts a study and rules that the sea plane may not or may land
with or without certain stipulations. A copy of the form is
filed with the State of Minnesota by the FAA. The commission
requested no further investigation on this item until there is
some reason to do so at a future date.
The Commission reviewed aerial photos of the Twin Lake North area
and discussed options, including adding a canoe launch and/or a
fishing pier. There was a motion by Commissioner Peterson and
seconded by Commissioner Manson to direct staff to investigate
options at the very north end of Twin Lake North including
installation of a canoe launch, fishing pier, boat launch, and/or
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a canoe rack. Staff should determine initial costs and costs for
upkeep and maintenance, and define the pros and cons of each idea
and combinations of those options. Other items to investigate
are to determine the depth of the lake at the north end, and what
type and the numbers of fish are in the lake. Also, staff is
directed to determine the liability of the City for a fishing
pier and the other options. Staff is also directed to report
back to the Park and Recreation Commission on these items. The
motion passed.
The Commission reviewed aerial photos of the Kylawn preserve
area, and continued this item for further discussion in the fall
after the Twin Lake North options have been reviewed. The
Commission will schedule a parks tour for the May 1987 meeting,
and Kylawn preserve area will be toured at that time.
The Director of Recreation asked if there is any interest in
changing the beach area on Twin Lake North, and Chairman Sorenson
said his preference is to leave it as is. Commissioners Peterson
and Krefting said they had no preference in the matter. Chairman
Sorenson noted that the Park and Recreation commission has never
said the area should not be a beach. Counciimember Hawes said if
he lived in this area he would be very upset if the beach was
removed. Chairman Sorenson said he does not agree that the
streets are posted "No Parking" in the area, particularly because
it creates problems for people trying to launch boats (there is
nowhere for these people to park). Commissioner Skeels said he
agreed with the chairman on this issue, seeing no reason to deny
the use of the area as a beach.
The Director of Recreation disagreed with the Commission, noting
the problems created as a result of the beach, such as the mess
left after the use of the beach. Commissioner Manson pointed out
that people will still use the area regardless of what is done
with it. Councilmember Hawes said it would be difficult to
dispose of all the sand. He added that if the beach could be
converted to something that would eliminate the problems
completely, he would go along with it; however, he does not think
there is such a solution. Commissioner Krefting asked who uses
the beach, and the Director of Recreation said people come from
all over this area. Chairman Sorenson pointed out that the east
side of the lake is ideal for a beach because of the direction of
the sun. Before any action is taken, he requested to see more
proposals for this area besides just closing the beach. The
Commission requested that staff prepare any suggestions with
regard to the use of Kylawn preserve and the beach on Twin Lake
North, and report back to the Commission.
CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER SUMMARY STATEMENT OF TRENDS. ISSUES AND
GOALS
The Recording Secretary distributed a report entitled "City of
Brooklyn Center Summary Statement of Trends, Issues and Goals".
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She asked the Park and Recreation Commission to review this
report and invited the Commission to attend a planning session
with the City Council, staff, and other commission members. The
Recording Secretary said she would notify the Commission when the
date, time, and location of the session are known.
NORTH MISSISSIPPI REGIONAL PARK
Chairman Sorenson said the ad hoc committee has recommended to
the City Council that the land east of Lyndale Avenue North
between 53rd and 57th Avenues North be incorporated into the
Regional Park plan, the same recommendation as the Park and
Recreation Commission has already made -to the City Council.
Councilmember Hawes said for those who do not want to sell their
property at the present, City Council approval to have the-land
condemned will be necessary; therefore, people should not be
forced out of their homes. Chairman Sorenson noted the City
cannot afford to develop the property, so it is best to go with a
Regional Park. There was some discussion by the Commission
regarding the properties in the area and the uses of the
properties.
GOLF COURSE UPDATE
The Director of Recreation reported that Kurt Johnson has been
hired as the Golf Course Manager. Mr. Johnson will be starting
his new position on April 20, 1987. The Director of Recreation
noted that the final inspection of the clubhouse will be
conducted next week. He added the final fine grading will be
started within the next few weeks. The Director of Recreation
said the Little League concession stand is done, and there will
be some work done on the fields when the weather improves.
REVIEW OF GENERAL ORDINANCES
Chairman Sorenson said the Commission will review and discuss in
detail at the next Commission meeting Chapter 13 of the City
ordinances regarding parks and recreation. He pointed out that
there are several parts of the ordinance that need to be updated;
for example, the title of "Director of Park and Recreation"
should be changed to "Director of Recreation". Chairman Sorenson
said that in section 13-103, alcoholic beverages are prohibited
for neighborhood groups, and the Chairman expressed his
unhappiness about this situation. He added that he would like to
see included in the ordinance a timely method of appeal for
denied permits. Chairman Sorenson said section 13-115 should be
deleted because people should use cans and should not be allowed
to have glass beverage containers at all.
Commissioner Skeels requested that copies of ordinances from
other cities regarding parks and recreation be obtained for
review by the Commission. He expressed concern for making
drinking too open in the parks. Chairman Sorenson said that
parties with a permit should have to display it in the parks.
Commissioner Skeels suggested that a permit be issued to reserve
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facilities at the parks, such as fields. He requested that the
ordinances be reviewed to determine if a permit is cited
elsewhere in the City ordinances; otherwise, the Commission
should think about adding a section on this. Commissioner
Krefting asked which parks children who are not on organized
teams can use, and the Director of Recreation reviewed the
locations. He noted that there are not many parks that are not
scheduled for activities during the summer.
KALEIDOSCOPE
The Recording Secretary noted that Kaleidoscope is scheduled for
April 5, 1987 from 11:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. at Brooklyn Center
High School. The Commissioners signed up to work at the Park and
Recreation booth as follows: -
11:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. Arnie Mavis, Bud Sorenson
1:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. Dave Skeels, Don Peterson
3:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Carl Manson, Don Krefting
The Director of Recreation said he will obtain a putting machine
and give free swim passes to those making the putt on their first
attempt. A greens mower will be at Kaleidoscope, as well as a
layout of the golf course. Commissioner Krefting asked for
information about the golf course, and a fact sheet will be sent
to the Commissioners prior to Kaleidoscope. Commissioner
Peterson asked how many feet of shoreline the beach on Twin Lake
North occupies, and Councilmember Hawes said it is about 500
feet. The Recording Secretary will send a memo on Kaleidoscope
to the Commissioners prior to April 5, 1987.
FACILITY NEEDS
This item was tabled until the next Park and Recreation
Commission meeting.
NEXT MEETING
The Commission agreed that they would return to the third Tuesday
of the month for their meetings. The next meeting is scheduled
for April 21, 1987 at 7:30 p.m. It was determined that the May
meeting will be a tour of the parks, and this is scheduled for
May'19, 1987 at 6:00 p.m.
RESOLUTIONS AND BYLAWS
The Recording Secretary reviewed the City Council's request that
the Commission take a look at the amendments to the enabling
resolution and bylaws of the Park and Recreation Commission.
This item will be further discussed at the next Commission
meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Chairman Sorenson asked why the City Council meetings-or any of
the other advisory commission meetings are not televised on cable
television. The Recording Secretary said the City is not
adequately staffed at this point in time to do so. chairman
Sorenson suggested that volunteers be used, and the Recording
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Secretary said that the Commission should discuss this with the
Mayor and City Council. There was a motion by commissioner
Skeels and seconded by Commissioner Peterson to recommend to the
City Council that the Park and Recreation Commission meetings be
televised on cable television. The motion passed. There was
also a suggestion that the agendas of the Commissions be posted
on cable television on the day of the meetings.
Commissioner Krefting noted that volleyball is an up and coming
team sport, and asked if there are any sand courts in the City.
The Director of Recreation said there are two such courts at
Northport Park, which are used by mixed leagues.
Commissioner Krefting requested that trash cans be put in-place
in the parks. He noted that with the warm weather there are a
lot of folks using the parks, so it would be nice to have the
trash cans in place.
The Recording Secretary reported on a question from a previous
meeting that the golf course sprinkling system originates from
the City's water system.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Commissioner Peterson and seconded by
commissioner Manson to adjourn the meeting. ,The motion passed.
The Brooklyn Center Park and Recreation Commission adjourned at
9:59 p.m.
Chairman
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