HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986 11-18 PRMMINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
FOR THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND
THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
REGULAR SESSION
NOVEMBER 18, 1986
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Sorenson called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairman Sorenson, Commissioners Peterson, Krefting, and Propst.
Also present were Councilmember Bill Hawes, Director of Recreation
Arnie Mavis and Recording Secretary Geralyn Barone. Commissioners
Manson and Skeels were absent from this evening's meeting.
INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBER
Chairman Sorenson introduced Don Krefting to the Commission, and
each member present at the meeting introduced themselves to
Commissioner Krefting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 217 1986
There was a motion by Commissioner Peterson and seconded by
Chairman Sorenson to approve the minutes of the October 21, 1986
Park and Recreation Commission meeting. The motion passed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
There was a motion by Commissioner Propst and seconded by Chairman
Sorenson to approve the minutes of the September 16, 1986 Park and
Recreation Commission meeting. The motion passed.
YEAR 2000 ASSIGNMENTS
The Recording Secretary reviewed the assignment of the Park and
Recreation Commission related to completion of the park development
plan. The Commission reviewed and discussed the land involved in
this assignment. Commissioner Peterson said at the north end of
Twin Lake, the only recommendation he has is to add a parking lot
and a public boat launch access. Commissioner Propst asked about
adding a beach area at this location, and the Director of
Recreation said there is not enough parking space for that purpose.
Commissioner Propst suggested installation of a canoe storage rack
and/or sailboat storage area, and the Commission agreed that the
feasibility of this option should be investigated further. There
was some concern expressed over the airplane that is parked on the
lake which could disrupt canoes or sailboats.
The Commission discussed the possibility of extending the deadline
for reporting to the City Council so that the Commission may once
again look at the land in question.
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NORTH MISSISSIPPI REGIONAL PARK,
Councilmember Hawes° stated that an ad hoc committee has been
created to further review the situation related to the North
Mississippi Regional Park. The committee will consist of current
and past Park and Recreation Commissioners, current and past
Planning Commissioners, Director of Planning and Inspection Ron
Warren, and Councilmember Bill Hawes. Councilmember Hawes reviewed
the history of the request involving the North Mississippi Regional
Park, and said the current status puts the park in limbo at this
time. The Commission discussed the entire proposed Regional Park
System.
TRAILWAY SYSTEM - REVIEW OF UNDEVELOPED PORTION,
The Director of Recreation said the City is looking for a
recommendation from the Commission to pave the portion on the east
side of Palmer Lake. Chairman Sorenson reviewed the location of
the current trailway, where Brooklyn Park's anticipated work will
be done, as well as the undeveloped portion of the trailway on the
east side of Palmer Lake. Commissioner Peterson stated that it is
now dangerous with part of the trail going onto the roadway on 69th
Avenue North towards Oliver Avenue North.
Chairman Sorenson requested that an attempt be made to improve the
safety of the trailway crossing at County Road 10 towards
Brookdale, particularly the traffic light control. Chairman
Sorenson also requested that a temporary measure be placed at 69th
Avenue North where the trailway crosses to improve the safety for
the bike path crossing. He suggested a flashing yellow light orle
improved signage in the area.
There was a motion by Commissioner Peterson and seconded by
Commissioner Propst to recommend to the City Council that the east
side of the Palmer Lake pathway to connect to Brooklyn Park's trail
be black topped.
Commissioner Peterson asked if there would be a public hearing on
this, and Councilmember Hawes said he is not sure. Commissioner
Krefting asked if the paths are shoveled in the winter months, and
the Director of Recreation said they are not.
Upon vote being taken on the foregoing motion, the motion passed.
The Recording Secretary will place this item on the December 8,
1986 City Council agenda.
SKATING RINK AT FREEWAY PARK
The Recording Secretary reported that the City Council did approve
the ice rink at Freeway Park, and the Director of Recreation added
that there will be lighting provided on a timer.
GOLF COURSE UPDATE
The Director of Recreation said the golf course project is coming
along nicely with a few minor problems on the Little League field
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due to the rain in the fall. Otherwise, the golf course is
proceeding according to plan. Commissioner Propst stated that
nothing has been done about the dirt on the roadway, and
Councilmember Hawes said his impression was that it was a condition
of approval for the contractor to take care of this problem.
Commissioner Propst reiterated his concern that there is more dirt
coming onto the street. Commissioner Propst noted that it looks
like a good move that the fence in the outfield was taken out, and
the Director of Recreation said the fence will be put back up in
the summer. Commissioner Propst said the whole area around 54th
Avenue North, Russell Avenue North, and other streets in the area
need to be cleaned up because it will be a mess with the spring
thaw. The Recording Secretary said she would check on this again.
Commissioner Propst pointed out that this is not a gross problem,
but it is noticeable. He also noted periodic problems with
motorcycles driving on the trailways. The Commission discussed the
ordinance which does not allow snowmobiles in the City.
The Director of Recreation said the footings are in for the
clubhouse and the City is in the process of hiring a golf course
manager. Hopefully, this person will be hired by March 1, 1987.
Councilmember Hawes asked if this would be a full-time, year-round
position, and the Director of Recreation responded affirmatively.
He added that a turf management background or similar experience
will be required. The Director of Recreation noted that the City
already has some of the equipment needed for the golf course and
reviewed some items that will be purchased. Councilmember Hawes
asked how the drain tile near the highway is, and the Director of
Recreation stated that this should be installed. Commissioner
Krefting asked if there would be a fence installed along Highway
100, and the Director of Recreation said there would not be. He
added that there should not be any problems unless someone
deliberately hits a golf ball towards the highway. Commissioner
Propst expressed his concern over this hazard, particularly with
vehicles travelling at speeds of 50 to 60 m.p.h.
REPORT ON COMMUNITY CENTER MEMBERSHIPS
The Director of Recreation reviewed the Community Center
memberships as of November 4, 1986, and stated that the Center
would be in deep trouble if it were not for nonresidents using the
facility. Commissioner Propst asked if it would be possible to
swim laps when swimming lessons are in session at the pool. The
Director of Recreation noted this could be feasible now, but it
would be a problem at other times of the year when there are bigger
crowds for lessons. He added that when there are large groups of
kids using the pool, the lap lane is removed. The Director of
Recreation pointed out that the adult recreation classes have the
same ratio of residents to nonresidents as the Community Center
pool does, and this is an advantage to Brooklyn Center residents
because more variety of classes can be offered to the residents.
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Commissioner Propst asked why the Community Center pool is not
opened earlier in the morning, and the Director of Recreation sai
the City has tried doing this. However, with the costs of bringing
in a secretary, two lifeguards, and paying for the lights,
approximately twenty people would have to use the pool each morning
to break even. He added that three sessions in the morning have
been tried in the past, and were unsuccessful. Commissioner
Krefting said with the new businesses in town, more swimmers may be
attracted in the morning. Commissioner Peterson asked how many
memberships the Community Center could handle, and the Director of
Recreation said the current membership could double. He added that
January through March are the best months for attendance at the
pool. Commissioner Propst said it would be beneficial to be able
to swim every day. The Director of Recreation said he will be
publicizing the pool to businesses in January. Commissioner Propst
said it would be good for heart patients to use the pool, and he
recently had a heart attack, so he feels it would be good to have
the pool open in the morning hours. The Director of Recreation
reviewed the current hours that the Community Center pool is open,
and noted that attendance goes in streaks.
Commissioner Krefting asked how often the membership is reviewed,
and the Director of Recreation said it is done as time permits.
Commissioner Krefting suggested that promotions for use of the pool
be coincided with the opening of the new Ryan building. The
Director of Recreation said he will try something, although he has
not always gotten the greatest response.
Councilmember Hawes asked if there is any way to get a running
track, and the Director of Recreation said a gym or fieldhouse
would be needed for the expanding demand of the recreational sports
programs sponsored by the City. Commissioner Propst asked if there
is any location recommended for a gym, and the Director of
Recreation said this has not been researched yet. Councilmember
Hawes requested that long-range plans'be discussed at a future
Commission meeting, such as the need for additional gymnasium
space.
VANDALISM IN PARKS
The Director of Recreation said he met with the City Manager and
the Police chief to discuss the vandalism problem, and a report
will be made to the Commission at its January meeting with a plan
and information on vandalism. He added that he has already talked
with some other park and recreation departments on their vandalism
problems. Councilmember Hawes asked if the lights were installed
at Evergreen Park, and the Director of Recreation responded
affirmatively.
BIKE PATHS ON ROADWAYS
This item was deferred to the next Commission meeting.
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PRIORITY LIST
The Director of Recreation suggested that a fishing pier be
installed near the beach area at North Twin Lake, with a few
additional parking spots installed. Councilmember Hawes asked if
the beach could be moved closer to the highway, and the Director of
Recreation said there would still be some parking problems. He
added that the State Highway Department owns this property.
Chairman Sorenson noted that only two thirds of the beach area is
in Brooklyn Center. Councilmember Hawes asked if the lake is deep
enough for a fishing pier, and the Director of Recreation thought
it should be. He added that there could still be a neighborhood
park there if a fishing pier is installed. Commissioner Krefting
asked if the lake could be dredged under Highway 100 to allow boat
launching on the east side and use on the west side, and
Councilmember Hawes said this is an idea.
The Commission discussed the geese problem in Central Park and the
City Council's recent action related to it.
The Commission deferred discussion of the priority list items to
the next meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
The Director of Recreation said the Lions Club will sponsor a night
of Entertainment in the Parks next summer, and the Rotary Club will
also be asked to sponsor an evening. He added that the Lions Club
is donating $1,500 to the Brooklyn Community Band. The Commission
discussed funding for the band.
Agenda items for the next Commission meeting will include Year 2000
assignments, bike paths on roadways, vandalism in parks, golf
course update, North Mississippi Regional Park, and the priority
list.
There was a motion by Commissioner 'Peterson and seconded by
Commission Propst to cancel the December meeting. The motion
carried. The next Commission meeting is scheduled for January 20,
1987.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Commissioner Peterson and seconded by
Commissioner Propst to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed.
The Brooklyn Center Park and Recreation Commission adjourned at
9:20 p.m.
Chairman
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