HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975 04-15 HCMCall to Order
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
3 -11 -75
Approval of Minutes
4 -1 -75
Public Hearing
MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE HOUSING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER
IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF
MINNESOTA
SPECIAL SESSION
APRIL 15, 1975
CITY HALL
The Brooklyn Center Housing Commission met in special
session and was called to order by Chairman Howard at
7 :35 p.m.
Chairman Howard, Commissioners Kohrt, Ward, Beikler,
Plummer, and Haroldson. Also present were Councilmen
Bill Fignar and Robert Jensen, Director of Planning and
Inspection Blair Tremere, and Administrative Assistant
Ron Warren.
Motion by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Haroldson to approve the minutes of the
March 11, 1975 meeting. The motion passed unani-
mously.
Motion by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Haroldson to approve the minutes of the
April 1, 1975 meeting. The motion passed unanimously.
Chairman Howard declared the public hearing open at
7:40 p.m. He stated that this hearing is being held to
review, discuss and clarify the proposed amendments
to the Housing Maintenance and Occupancy Ordinance.
He explained that the Housing Commission is an
advisory commission to the City Council and has been
directed by the City Council to review and make recom-
mendations concerning the proposed amendments to the
ordinance. It is the Commission's purpose tonight to
review the submitted proposals from concerned citizens.
Commissioner Hastings arrived at 7:41 p.m.
Chairman. Howard stated that two written proposals have
been received, one from Gary and Joyce Bimberg and the
other from a citizen's committee under the signatures of
Richard Forstrom and Richard Higgins.
Chairman Howard then recognized Mr. Richard Forstrom,
4526 Kathrene Drive, a spokesman for the group and
asked if he would explain the proposed amendments
submitted by the committee.
Mr. Forstrom addressed the Commission and stated the
committee would present their explanations to the proposed
amendments on a section by section basis. Because the
proposed amendments were the result of a group effort, it
was the committee °s intent to have various members of the
committee present the explanations in which they had a
particular interest,
Mr. Forstrom first addressed proposed changes to Section
12-101, PURPOSE, and stated the committee felt references
to "general welfare" and "social well being" should be
deleted from the objectives stated in number 2. He noted
that terms such as "life", "safety" and "health" are
definable and are properly included in the ordinance, but
terms such as "general welfare" and "social well being"
are vague, undefinable terms and should not be included in
the ordinance. He went on to state that the use of the word
"overcrowding in Section 12-101, (5), was an arbitrary
term and reference to it should also be deleted. He further
explained the committee's proposed wording was clearer and
eliminated the arbitrary reference to overcrowding.
Chairman Howard then recognized Mr. Steven Englert,
3019 63rd Avenue North, a member of the committee who
explained the reasoning for the proposed addition to Section
12 -101. He stated that he was certain the City did not
intend to infringe upon an individual's rights or privacy,
and this point should be so stated in the ordinance. He
further stated that it is the intent of this ordinance to pro-
tect property values and this should also be stated in the
ordinance. By incorporating the committee's additional
paragraph these two features would be included.
Mr. Forstrom noted that there is not an abundance of
statistics available on the occupancy of dwellings in
Brooklyn Center, because of this he felt all present occu-
pants in the City sho ld not be bound by the occupancy
requirements of the ordinance. Only when occupancy is
transferred would the requirements take effect. He further
noted that the City should take on the responsibilities of
informing future residents of the ordinance requirements
and providing assistance in obtaining low- interest and
no- interest loans for persons that are forced to comply
with ordinance requirements
Vince Tubman 6420 Girard Avenue North, presented the
committee's view regarding the deletion of the definition
of an unfinished basement in Section 12-201, (10) He
explained that they feel an unfinished basement, pro-
vided it has the required exit facilities, should be counted
as a habitable room.
Mr. Forstrom noted Section 12-403, TOILET FACILITIES,
and 12-405, BATHTUB OR SHOWER, and stated persons
renting dwelling units should be guaranteed privacy in
their bathrooms, however, owner- occupants should not
be forced to provide privacy for these rooms if they do
not wish to. He strongly opposes the use of the word
"door" in these sections of the ordinance.
Chairman Howard recognized Mr. Richard Higgins,
7037 Dupont Avenue North, who presented the committee's
proposed changes to Section 12 -504, ELECTRIC SERVICE,
OUTLETS AND FIXTURES. Mr. Higgins stated that FHA
and VA standards for home approval are constantly changing
and being upgraded. He recommended that the ordinance
be kept in line with these standards by incorporating the
committee's suggested wording.
A lengthy discussion ensued relative to the wording in
the present ordinance that allows 60 amp service as a
condition of sale. Commissioner Hastings explained that
if we used 100 amp service as a condition of sale, as
FHA and VA require, we would force almost half of the
people in Brooklyn Center to rewire their homes before
they could sell them. Mr. Forstrom stated the committee
waa concerned that people could upgrade their electrical
service to only 60 amps and meet the requirements of the
ordinance. They felt this was inadequate. Director of
Planning and Inspection, Blair Tremere, stated that
building permits require a person rewiring a home to
upgrade that home to at least 100 amp service. He
further stated that the point of the present ordinance is
to allow people with at least 60 amp service to sell
their homes on a "conventional basis".
Mr. Higgins explained the committee °s proposals for an
addition to Section 12-601, MINIMUM THERMAL
STANDARDS. He stated that the wording of their pro-
posal was identical to what will become future FHA and
VA requirements, and the City should incorporate this
change as a fuel conservation measure. Chairman
Howard noted that the Housing Maintenance Ordinance
is not designed to establish guidelines and requirements
for selling homes. He further noted it is possible that
such things may be included in the ordinance inffilae
future, but felt we might be packing too much into the
document by tying our ordinance in with numerous FHA
and VA requirements and standards.
Jackie Bateman, 5030 Ewing Avenue North, a member of
the committee, noted her objection to tying the ordinance
into many FHA and VA requirements. She stated that
people should be allowed to sell their homes on a
"conventional basis" without these requirements.
Commissioner Haroldson left the table at 8:28 p.m. and
returned at 8:30 p.m.
Commissioner Howard then recognized Colin Kivi,
906 72nd Avenue North, also a member of the committee,
who expressed his concern for the wording in Section
129704, particularly with respect to toxic paint. He
noted that toxic paint is potentially dangerous to all
people, not only to children. The present ordinance only
refers to toxic pai t that is readily accessible to children,
Mr. Kivi explained, Mr. Higgins stated that this section
is really directed at lead -based paints and perhaps should
refer to this specifically.
The Commission recessed at 8:35 p.m. and resumed at Recess
8 :50 p.m.
Chairman Howard recognized Mrs. Joyce Bimberg,
7013 Quail Avenue North, who along with her husband had
submitted a written request for proposed changes. She
stated that she recommends complete,deletion of Section
12 -802, PERMISSIBLE OCCUPANCY OF DWELLING UNIT,
and Section 12 -805, PERMISSIBLE OCCUPANCY OF
SLEEPING ROOMS. She further stated that these sections
are too restrictive. Even though it is not the intent of the
City, these sections have the effect of limiting the per-
missible number of people in a family and to a certain
extent, restricts people wishing to move into or live in
this community.
Chairman Howard asked Mrs. Bimberg to clarify the other
proposal in her letter. She noted that there should be
a section included in the ordinance that would make the
City liable for a private citizen °s legal fees, if that
citizen should challenge a compliance order in court
and win a court judgment against the City. She further
stated by having such a clause the City would be more
responsible and less capricious in its enforcement of the
ordinance.
Chairman Howard noted there are ways for people to
recover such expenses. He stated it is a person's legal
right and responsibility to counter -sue In such instances.
Mr. Higgins noted that the committee had a similar pro-
posal to Mrs. Bimberges and it was included in their
addition to Section 12 -1205. He further noted that the
committee's recommendation would extend this liability
not only to court judgments, but would also make the
City liable for expenses if the City decides to cease
in its attempts to enforce a compliance order prior to a
court judgment. A lengthy discussion ensued relative
to this point and the Director of Planning and Inspection
responded by stating that there is some question as to
the legality of including such a clause in an ordinance
and that the City Attorney was presently looking into
this matter.
Mr. Forstrom stated the committee's recommendations
regarding the occupancy sections of the ordinance. He
noted that these were major concerns of the committee
and stated that Sections 12 -802, 12-803, and 12 -805
should be modified according to their recommendations
which would protect a homeowner °s right to live as he
chooses.
Chairman Howard then recognized Mr. Englert who
voiced his opposition to Section 12 -804, MINIMUM
CEILING HEIGHT. Englert noted that he intended to
finish his basement. In all likelihood he would not
be able to meet the six foot six inch minimum ceiling
heighth requirement and, therefore, his finished base-
ment would not be counted as a habitable room. He
stated this room would be acceptable to him as a
habitable room and would not affect the health and
safety of his family, so he felt it should be accepted
by the City as a habitable room. To overcome this
problem Mr. Englert recommended that a five to ten
per cent differential be used as a variance in this
section of the ordinance.
Jackie Bateman was recognized by the Chairman and
she ecpreUsed her feelings concerning the committee's
prcpc >3als for changes to Section 12-1001, ENFORCE
MENT AND INSPECTION AUTHORITY. She noted that
slxe strongly dislikes people coming into her home
even if it E: to read the meters. She particularly
diL likes the reference in the ordinance to inspections
on a "scheduled basis". She stated that she under
stood the reasoning for scheduled inspections of
apartment and rental units, but she sees no need for
the City to schedule inspections of owner occupied
homes on a mass basis. The Director of Planning and
Inspection stated that scheduled inspections mean
that persons would be notified prior to the inspection
to establish a convenient date and time for the inspection.
Mr. Englert addressed himself t. the two proposed
additions to Section 12-1001, stating that these additions
would provide procedures for verification of inspectors
and would also establish complaint procedures. He
further stated that these are safeguards that will protect
an individual's rights.
Mr. Englert added that the ordinance should be given a
two year trial test to see how it works. He noted that
most citizens do not know much about the ordinance or
how it will affect them. Chairman Howard replied to this
by saying that the Housing Commission will be continually
reviewing the ordinance and holding study sessions to
improve it. He further stated that he sees no reason for
including a termination date in the ordinance.
Chairman Howard then recognized Mr. David Gee,
507 69th Avenue North, to explain the proposed amend-
ments to Section 12-201, definition number 6. He asked
Mr. Gee if he wanted the entire four -page submittal
included in the ordinance. Mr. Gee stated that first of
all he would like the number of permissible wards in the
group or family home definition increased from five to
six. He pointed out that the four -page submission was
similar to an ordinance in Eden Prairie that refers to group
or foster care homes and he would like it included. A
lengthy discussion ensued as to the relevance of including
Mr. Gee's proposal. The Director of Planning and Inspection
stated that the number five used in the definition is in
accordance with the present City Zoning Ordinance. He
further stated that if a proposedetato law is enacted it
would automatically supersede both our zoning and our
housing ordinance. Commissioner Hastings stated that
she supports wholeheartedly the work Mr. Gee is doing
at his Outreach Home, but felt that Mr. Gee's proposal
might be better incorporated into a separate ordinance
relating to group and foster homes rather than to bury his
proposal in the Housing Maintanance and Occupancy
Ordinance.
After reviewing all of the proposed changes to the
Housing Ordinance, Chairman Howard asked if anyone
else wished to be heard, thare..being none, the Chairman
read into the record a note left by Mr. Jesse Sandoval,
5548 Logan Avenue North, in whin h Mr. Sandoval sug-
gested that enforcement and application of this ordinance
by the City be done with compa s sign toward individuals.
Chairman Howard closed the public hearing at 10010 p.m. Public Hearing
Closed
Next Public Hearing
Adjournment
Chairman Howard noted that another public hearing would
be held on April 29, 1975, at 7:30 p.m. in the Council
Chambers at which time the Housing Commission would
deliberate on their recommendations to the City Council.
Motion by Commissioner Hastings and seconded by
Commissioner Magnuson to adjourn the meeting. The
motion passed unanimously. The Brooklyn Center
Housing Commission adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
Chairman