HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008 10-30 PCMMINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF
]HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
STUDY SESSION
OCTOBER 30, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order by Chair Rahn at 7:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chair Sean Rahn, Commissioners Kara Kuykendall, Michael Parks and Tim Roche were present.
Also present were Secretary to the Planning Commission/Planning and Zoning Specialist Ronald
Warren, and Planning Commission Recording Secretary Rebecca Crass. Commissioners Stan
Leino, Rachel Lund and Della Young were absent and excused.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JULY 31. 2008
There was a motion by Commissioner Roche, seconded by Commissioner Kuykendall,
to approve the minutes of the July 31, 2008 meeting as submitted. The motion passed
unanimously.
CHAIR'S EXPLANATION
Chair Rahn explained the Planning Commission's role as an advisory body. One of the
Commission's functions is to hold public hearings. In the matters concerned in these hearings,
the Commission makes recommendations to the City Council. The City Council makes all final
decisions in these matters.
APPLICATION NO. 2008-008 OSSEO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT NO. 279
Chair Rahn introduced Application No. 2008-008, a request for Special Use Permit Amendment
for parking lot screening. Mr. Warren presented the staff report describing the location of the
property and the proposal. (See Planning Commission Information Sheet dated 10-30-08 for
Application No. 2008-008, attached.)
Mr. Warren explained that the Osseo Independent School District No. 279 is seeking a Special
Use Permit Amendment for parking lot screening to convert a bituminous area primarily used for
outdoor basketball to a parking facility at the Willow Lane Elementary School site, 7020 Perry
Avenue North. He noted that the Willow Lane Elementary School has not been used as a
traditional elementary school for a number of years.
Early Childhood Education and other types of school programs have been operated by the
school district in this facility over the years. The school district and city operate under an
agreement whereby school facilities and Willow Lane Park are shared. Land was swapped
between the school district and the city when the Adult Basic Education Facility at 7051
Brooklyn Boulevard was developed a few years ago.
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The Commissioners asked Mr. Warren various questions regarding clarification on what was
being reviewed by the Planning Commission under Application No. 2008-008. Mr. Warren
explained that parking lot screening approval is what is before the Planning Commission for
review and possible recommendation to the City Council. This process involves review of the
parking lot screening proposed under the Special Use Permit Amendment, however, other
aspects of the plan are areas the Commission may comment on as well.
PUBLIC HEARING - APPLICATION NO. 2008-008
There was a motion by Commissioner Kuykendall, seconded by Commissioner Parks, to open
the public hearing on Application No. 2008-008, at 7:36 p.m. The motion passed unanimously.
Chair Rahn called for comments from the public.
The applicant Mr. Dale Carlstrom, representing Osseo Independent School District No. 279,
introduced himself to the Commission.
Commissioner Roche asked what the need is for this parking lot on the school district site. Mr.
Carlstrom explained that the use of Willow Lane School has changed over the years and is
primarily an early childhood and enrollment building. He also pointed out that they have
relocated some of the programs located within the Adult Basic Education building. Some people
use both buildings and are dropping off children at one building and crossing through the parking
lot to the other building. He added the change in the parking lot is related to security reasons and
to keep pedestrians safe when crossing from one building to another. He explained that the
School District felt this was a good opportunity to make security improvements to the site by
adding additional lighting to the parking lots since they have had some vandalism on the site.
Chair Rahn noted that some of the parking lot improvements had already been started and asked
the applicant why work had been started without a permit.
Mr. Carlstrom explained that since this was a smaller project, the architect was not as involved as
with larger projects and the role of city approvals and permit applications was with the school
district and he admits they made a mistake in not getting the permits.
Commissioner Parks made recommendations to the applicant regarding possible alterations and
changes to the site regarding drainage, curbing and landscaping. He also stated that he feels that
adding the berm is a good idea to provide screening from the residential area across the street.
Terry McDevitt, 7007 Perry Avenue North, stated that she feels the location of the new proposed
driveway at the school is directly across the street from her driveway and she feels that will be a
problem. She also stated that the existing parking lot for the Adult Basic Education building on
Brooklyn Boulevard is not used to its full extent and questions why this parking lot is being
added. She also feels that the school district should have contacted the neighbors with their
proposal.
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Marie Egnell, 7013 Perry Avenue North, stated that she lives across from where the proposed
berm will be and her concern is with the location of the proposed driveway at the school. She
says there is little street parking used by the school and the proposed location of the parking lot is
unsafe since it is at the edge of the playground. She also feels that the school district should have
contacted the neighbors in the area with their plan.
Joann Herman, 7001 Perry Avenue North, feels this proposal is unwarranted with the amount of
parking space available at the north end of the property. She also stated that she thinks the work
was started early on purpose.
Commissioner Roche addressed the applicant and stated that he is disappointed that this work
was started without a permit. He stated that he feels there are some potential safety issues with
the layout on the site. He asked the applicant why the adults are separated from the early
childhood center and is the parking lot open to the public?
Mr. Carlstrom stated that the parking lot is open to the public and also explained the different
programs offered at the two buildings. He added that they have a huge responsibility of knowing
who is coming in to the buildings and providing safety and security. He added that by laying it
out in the manner proposed, they believe safety issues can be met.
Mr. Warren explained that the current layout of parking on the Adult Basic Education site was
designed based on the square footage of that building. He added that there is a second portion of
the building that is yet to be constructed and will be occupied by CEAP. The city wanted to
Commissioner Kuykendall stated that she has a concern with the amount of traffic using this
additional driveway but doesn't see a better location for the driveway on the site. Commissioner
Kuykendall asked Mr. Warren for further clarification on specifically what the Planning
Commission is approving.
make sure that the two parking lots for the Willow Lane School and the Adult Education facility
were separated to avoid unwanted traffic through the residential neighborhood. He also stated
that the city encourages on-site parking rather than on street parking. Mr. Warren also explained
that the city prefers to have driveways lined up across from each other and 28 additional parking
spaces isn't really going to have a significant affect on traffic in the area.
Mr. Warren stated that the Planning Commission is approving the screening proposed on the
plan and allowed under the Special Use Standards, not the addition of the parking lot. He
pointed out that without the addition of parking on site, there would be on street parking by
people using the Willow Lane School facilities.
Ms. Egnell stated again that she feels it is not a good thing to add a parking lot on the south end
of the property. She also stated that the original parking lot for the Willow Lane School was
expanded about five years ago. Ms. Egnell feels that the district has done poor planning.
Mr. Carlstrom explained that CEAP was not going to utilize the third floor of the Adult
Education Building but were still planning to complete their portion of the building. He added
that the decision was made to move the enrollment center to the building on Brooklyn
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Boulevard, out of the Willow Lane School, to allow better access to those that rely on public
transportation. This created the need to move each of the services provided to different floors
and has allowed the school district to use the buildings to the best of their abilities. Mr.
Carlstrom further explained that they have taken some of the Adult Education related to the
Early Childhood program and put it into the Willow Lane School.
Stevi Biedinger, 3803 Goldflower Circle, Brooklyn Park, asked the applicant how the school
district monitors who uses the parking lot and do they charge for parking? Mr. Carlstrom stated
that anyone can use the parking lot and they do not charge to park.
Commissioner Kuykendall discussed if moving the adult education programs to the Willow Lane
School violates the special use permit standards. Mr. Warren responded that it is possible that
the special use permit standards would need to be reviewed to determine if they are being met
with this aspect of the use of the facility.
Commissioner Kuykendall asked staff to review the special use permit standards related to the
changes proposed in the two school district buildings.
Ms. McDevitt stated that the special use standards state that a proposed use should not reduce
property values and she feels that the glare from cars across the street will reduce her property
value. Mr. Warren explained a case from many years ago where a study was done on the
diminishing of property values based on a proposed group home use in a residential area. The
study concluded that that did not lower the property values. He doubted the traffic would rise to
the level of directly causing the devaluing of property values. He also stated that the current
economy situation would have a more negative effect on property values than the proposed use
by the school district.
Chair Roche asked the applicant when they propose to start construction. Mr. Carlstrom stated
that would depend on the weather.
Andrew Andruski, 440 Carkoski Commons, Mankato, asked if it is possible to reroute the
entrance to the parking lot to the south closer to 70`s Avenue to create better flow on the site and
to showcase some of the park features since the parking lot is also used for the park.
There was further discussion by the Commission and the applicant regarding possible relocation
of the driveway and the addition of a fence around the play area located next to the new parking
lot.
It was the general consensus of the Planning Commission to table the application so that plans
can be amended and resubmitted to the Planning Commission.
No other persons from the public appeared before the Commission during the public hearing on
Application No. 2008-008.
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CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
There was a motion by Commissioner Parks, seconded by Commissioner Roche, to close the
public hearing on Application No. 2008-008, at 9:01 p.m. The motion passed unanimously.
The Chair called for further discussion or questions from the Commissioners. There was none
and the matter will be reviewed further at a subsequent meeting.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 35 OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES
REGRDING THE SALE OF MOTOR VEHICLES
Mr. Warren explained an ordinance amendment being considered by the City Council regarding
the sale of motor vehicles. Mr. Warren pointed out that the city attorney had noted that the
provision that required a structure for a motor vehicle dealer be equal to twice the value of the
land was not a defensible position and it was suggested that that provision be deleted from the
ordinance and replaced with a minimum land area and a maximum building size. Mr. Warren
stated that the City Council is considering an amendment to Chapter 23 (Licensing) as well as
Chapter 35 (Zoning). Traditionally the Planning Commission reviews and comments on zoning
ordinance amendments.
There was discussion by the Planning Commission and they stated no objections to the proposed
ordinance amendment.
PLANNING COMMISSION TERM EXPIRATIONS
Mr. Warren stated that the following Commission members term's expire on December 31,
2008: Chair Sean Rahn, Commissioners Kuykendall, Leino and Young. It is recommended that
they notify Mr. Warren of their intent to continue to serve on the Planning Commission for
another two years. Chair Rahn and Commissioner Kuykendall expressed their interest in
continuing to serve on the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Parks stated that he would like to bring in an expert on Engineering and
conservation to address the Planning Commission at a future meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Commissioner Kuykendall asked for clarification on what is expected with attendance as a
Commissioner on the Planning Commission. Mr. Warren explained that two unexcused
absences could warrant removal from the Commission. Commissioner Kuykendall stated that
she feels that there are several members who seem to have excessive absence and do not attend
meetings. Mr. Warren stated that attendance is important and it would be appropriate for the
Chair to comment and advise the Mayor regarding a Commission member who is not attending
meetings.
There was no other business.
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ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Commissioner Kuykendall, seconded by Commissioner Roche, to
adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. The motion passed unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 9:27 p.m.
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Chair
Recorded and transcribed by:
Rebecca Crass
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