HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986 06-12 EBFMMINUTES OF THE JUNE 12, 1986
EARLE BROWN FARM COMMITTEE MEETING
' CALL TO ORDER
The Earle Brown Farm Committee was called to order at 7:40 a.m.
by Vice Chairman Gil Engdahl.
ROLL CALL
Gil Engdahl, Ron Christensen, Leone Howe, Sylvia Kenney and
Warren Lindquist. Also present were City Manager Gerald
Splinter, Director of Public Works Sy Knapp, Director of Planning
and Inspection Ron Warren, Program Supervisor Kathy Flesher, HRA
Coordinator Brad Hoffman and Administrative Aid Patti Page.
DISCUSSION
The 'HRA Coordinator stated that the Market Study has been
completed, a development agreement with Ryan has been completed
and that staff is close to an agreement with Earle Brown Commons
regarding the residential development.
The HRA Coordinator briefly reviewed the proposed annual
operating budget for the farm. The City Manager noted that this
figure does not include any costs for City operated programs.
Gil Engdahl asked why the figure for the maintenance cost was so
high. The HRA Coordinator stated that included in this figure
were costs for salaries, unemployment insurance and benefits. He
noted that if the City contracted this work out the cost would
possibly be lower.
The HRA Coordinator stated that staff recommends that the
committee try to develop the farm so that it is self supported.
The HRA Coordinator stated that Earle Brown Commons would like
two things included in the agreement those being congregate
dining facilities and a physical link between the residential
complex and the farm buildings. He noted that the staff is
concerned about a physical link between the two facilities
because it could tend to intimidate people who were not residents
of the complex. The City Manager stated that the committee will
have to determine if this is a major concern and to what degree
it should be dealt with. The HRA Coordinator stated that at this
point Earle Brown Commons have been told that there would not be
a physical link. He noted that staff is writing the development
agreement in an either/or context. He stated that if the City
puts in a dining/restaurant facility there would be no write down
on the property but that if Beisner installs a kitchen on his
property there would be some sort of a write down on the
property. The City Manager stated that the City's basic interest
in the residential development is for purposes of controlling
traffic generation. The HRA Coordinator stated that so far all
the City has done for Earle Brown Commons is to assemble the
land and sell it to them. He noted that there is a July 1, 1986
deadline for the agreement. He noted that when you look at all
the proposed scenarios for the Hippodrome they all seem to
include a kitchen facility.
He stated that the hotel industry is interested in this area for
use by small conventions of approximately 1,000 people. He added
that if the City provides a meal program, staff would recommend a
restaurant which would give discounts to seniors. He noted that
there will be a lot of office tenants and the Target center to
draw customers from.
The HRA Coordinator noted that a possible use for the house would
be a "Bed and Breakfast" establishment and that Blumentals
Architecture is interested in one of the barns for office space.
The city Manager added that it would be approximately two years
before the City would have access to the house. Leone Howe
stated that she would like to see a tea room in the house which
would be open to the public and tourists.
Personnel Coordinator Geralyn Barone entered the meeting at 8:00
a.m.
The HRA Coordinator stated that the people from the "Bed and
Breakfast" suggested a tea room and ice cream parlor in one of
the barns. Leone Howe stated that she felt a tea room in the
house would be of more interest to people and be a bigger draw.
The HRA Coordinator stated that the house could also be used as
very prestigious office space.
The City Manager stated that the hotel industry feels that they
would be able to book approximately 20 nights a year. He noted
the balance of the time could be used for wedding receptions,
teen dances, etc. The HRA Coordinator added that the hotel
industry is looking ahead to 1989 bookings. The City Manager
noted that the hotels make money off of their hotel rooms not the
conference/banquet rooms. He added that the ability to use the
farm for small conventions would be a benefit to the hotels. He
also noted that the tourism bureau would be handling the bookings
for small conventions.
Ron Christensen stated that the new Ramada ballroom will seat 360
people maximum and that the Hippodrome would have the potential
for seating 1,000. The City Manager noted that the convention
use alone would not support the Hippodrome but other uses could
be added.
Gil Engdahl asked if an elaborate kitchen would have to be
installed for these type of functions. The City Manager stated
that the kitchen would only have to have ovens and areas for
keeping the food warm or cold because the actual preparation
would take place somewhere else.
Leone Howe stated that it seems there really are no other
alternatives for the Hippodrome. The City Manager stated that
both the Chamber of Commerce and the Tourism bureau have
indicated an interest in office space on the farm if the
Hippodrome is used for small conventions.
Ron Christensen stated that he would like to see staff
further
investigate these types of uses.
The City Manager asked if the Committee accepts the concept of an
either/or agreement with Earle Brown Commons. He noted
that an
agreement must be made with Earle Brown Commons by the
July 1,
1986 deadline or Ryan will then have the chance to step
in. He
added that the proposed agreement will be on the City
Council
agenda for the June 23, 1986 meeting.
There was a general consensus among committee members that staff
should proceed with the agreement with Earle Brown Commons as
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discussed.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Ron Christensen and seconded by Gil
Engdahl
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to adjourn the meeting. The Earle Brown Farm Committee
meeting
adjourned at 8:50 a.m.
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