HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993 02-23 EBNHACMMINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF
THE EARLE BROWN NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER
IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
FEBRUARY 23, 1993
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Earle Brown Neighborhood Housing Advisory Committee was called
to order by meeting Chairperson Jody Brandvold.
ROLL CALL
Committee members present at the meeting were Chairperson Jody
Brandvold, Robert Torres, Pamela Frantum, and Dolores Hastings.
Also present were ten guests, including Council Liaison Barb
Kalligher and Councilmember Kristen Mann. Staff members present
included Director of Public Works Sy Knapp, Public Works
Coordinator Diane Spector and City Engineer Mark Maloney.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES NOVEMBER 5, 1992
There was a motion by Committee Member Dolores Hastings and
seconded by Committee Member Torres to approve the minutes of the
November 5, 1992 meeting, as submitted. It was approved
unanimously.
EARLE BROWN NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE NEWSLETTER
Chairperson Brandvold noted that the latest issue of the Earle
Brown Neighborhood Housing Advisory Committee newsletter was in the
mail. Chairperson Brandvold invited guests attending the meeting
to give suggestions to the committee members as to future topics
for the newsletter.
RENTAL TO OWNER CONVERSION PROGRAM
Chairperson Brandvold noted since EDA Coordinator Tom Bublitz was
not in attendance this evening that this item would be tabled, but
additional information on the program would be available in the
next newsletter. Director of Public Works Sy Knapp noted that at
its meeting February 22, 1993, the City Council heard a report on
this proposed program. City Council approved the program in
concept.
CONSIDERATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD STREET IMPROVEMENT CONCEPT
Chairperson Brandvold introduced Director of Public Works Sy Knapp.
The Director of Public Works reviewed action on this concept to
this point. He reviewed the original map showing 11 one -mile
square areas in the southeast neighborhood. He noted that it was
a previous decision of the Earle Brown Neighborhood Housing
Advisory Committee to limit the southeast neighborhood study to the
area of 55th Avenue, due primarily to storm drainage needs on 57th
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Avenue. He noted that the City survey crew has done all work
needed on the area south of 55th, all the sanitary and storm sewers
have been televised, and staff has now evaluated the condition of
those sewers. In addition, conditions of water main in the area
have been checked. Engineering staff have tabulated the results of
this study. In reviewing the results of this study, the
engineering staff have determined that the area west of Logan
Avenue is a lower priority than the area east of Logan, and
therefore have not included that area in this feasibility study.
The Director of Public Works reviewed the proposed schedule for
implementation of a possible street improvement program for 1993
and noted that the schedule was very tight. Chairperson Brandvold
inquired if the proposed schedule covered the entire area or
selected areas. The Director of Public Works replied that City
Engineer Mark Maloney has identified two areas, areas A and B,
which he considers as "doable" in 1993. The Director of Public
Works stated that if the schedule cannot be met, then he would
recommend against doing anything in 1993 because it would not be
possible to guarantee completion of any improvement project in
1993.
The Director of Public Works introduced City Engineer Mark Maloney,
who was to discuss the technical aspects of the feasibility study.
City Engineer Mark Maloney reviewed areas A and B. He stated each
contained approximately two miles of streets. He reviewed
individual maps of proposed improvements in these areas. He noted
that sanitary sewer and water utility main would be replaced on
approximately eighty percent (80 of that street mileage. He
explained that area B ends at Logan Avenue because west of Logan
Avenue was recently sealcoated. He also added that the water and
sanitary sewer utilities in that area are in better shape than the
utilities east of Logan Avenue. He explained that both areas
exclude streets with properties abutting the recently improved
alleys.
A guest attending the meeting inquired why the streets abutting the
alley properties were excluded. The Director of Public Works
replied that this exclusion was done at the request of the Earle
Brown Neighborhood Housing Advisory Committee and at City Council
direction. The City Council believed that residents may not be
able to afford additional special assessments. The Director of
Public Works stated that he would prefer to include those streets,
but honored the request of the Earle Brown Neighborhood Housing
Advisory Committee and the City Council in preparing this
feasibility study.
City Engineer Mark Maloney reviewed proposed street improvements in
the area. He noted that the proposed street width was very close
to the existing width, except on Dupont and Logan. He explained
that initially he had hoped to salvage some existing pavement and
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do overlays, but on review of the existing conditions it was found
that these streets must be totally reconstructed. Chairperson
Brandvold inquired as to the existing width of Dupont Avenue. The
City Engineer replied that the existing width is now 31 -32 feet.
He explained that the width of Dupont and Logan as reconstructed
would be either 32 feet or 38 feet, depending on whether there
would be parking on one or two sides. He also explained that
Dupont would have an on- street bicycle trail, consistent with the
City's proposed trail system.
A guest at the meeting inquired if 2Z" blacktop pavement would be
strong enough for these streets. The guest noted that he had a 21/2"
driveway which had cracked which he was forced to replace with a 6"
driveway. The City Engineer replied that all of the streets in the
feasibility study were studied by the consultant which is preparing
the City's pavement management program. This consultant
recommended the 21/2" pavement cross section. The City Engineer
expressed confidence in the consultant's recommendation.
A guest inquired if the streets which are MTC bus routes would
receive any special treatment. The guest stated that on Bryant
Avenue in Minneapolis, the recently reconstructed street was
damaged by MTC buses starting and stopping. Had the City given any
thought to constructing concrete bus pads? The City Engineer
replied that this might be considered if there was a guarantee from
the MTC that the bus routes would not change. The Director of
Public Works noted that information on existing bus routes would be
given to the City's pavement management consultant to review and to
take into account the southeast neighborhood and elsewhere in the
City.
The City Engineer noted that the street improvement included
installation of concrete curb and gutter. He explained that
without curb and gutter, edges of bituminous streets break off
because poor drainage undermines the edge of the street. The edge
of the street then freezes and thaws and breaks off.
The City Engineer briefly reviewed storm sewer and sanitary sewer
needs in the area. He noted that at a previous Earle Brown
Neighborhood Housing Advisory Committee meeting, a person in
attendance brought up the existence of Orangeburg services in the
southeast neighborhood. The City Engineer explained that City
records do not show which houses have Orangeburg services. It is
his hope that property owners have some information regarding these
services. Chairperson Brandvold inquired of the City Engineer if
there were any builders which may have records from that period.
The City Engineer replied that he is working with retired public
utility staff to see if they may remember where they may have
encountered Orangeburg services. He is also reviewing plumbing
permits which were issued during the late 1950s, when the
Orangeburg services were installed.
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The Director of Public Works noted that if this project would
proceed, the City would work with property owners in the area to
assist in the possible replacement of the Orangeburg services. He
explained that, under existing conditions, if there is a sewer
service collapse it can cost the property owner $3,000 -$5000 to
repair that sanitary sewer service. He believes that the City may
be able to work with a contractor to get these sanitary sewer
services replaced at a much lower group cost. He noted that this
would only be done at the owner's request; it would not be a
requirement. He also stated that at informational meetings which
may be held in the future, the City would definitely ask for
information from property owners. Committee Member Bob Torres
inquired if at the informational meetings there would be cost
estimates for owners to consider. Director of Public Works Sy
Knapp replied that they would try to have this information
available.
A guest asked the City Engineer what was the breakdown on the
percent of utility mains which were being replaced. He replied
that about eighty percent (80 of the sewer main would be replaced
and about twenty percent (20 we could live with. He noted that
in looking at the data he classified the sanitary sewer main in
three categories: The first was the main must be replaced because
it is in imminent danger of collapse. The second category was main
which would need to be replaced within the next ten years. The
third category was main which was in acceptable condition. The
eighty percent represents the first two of these categories.
A guest inquired as to why the sanitary sewer cost on James Avenue
was high but the water replacement cost was not. The City Engineer
replied that there are two sanitary sewer mains on James, one in
the middle and one along the boulevard. Those two mains would be
replaced with a single main. He also noted that the water main is
on the opposite side of the street and is in good condition and
therefore will not need to be replaced. The City Engineer then
briefly reviewed the water main needs in the area. Committee
Member Bob Torres asked the City Engineer if homeowners with
galvanized water lines would also be able to get them replaced.
The Director of Public Works replied that he was not aware that
there were any galvanized water lines in the City. He believed all
water services were copper, however he would also ask about this at
the informational meeting.
The City Engineer reviewed the estimated costs for the
improvements.
Chairperson Brandvold asked if there was a difference between areas
A and B or were they of equal priority. The City Engineer replied
that prior to the television inspection of the sewers, he would
have said that the area of 4th Street and Camden was of higher
priority. After reviewing the television information, he now
believes that the worst sanitary sewer mains in the City are on
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James Avenue. Those sewers require a high level of maintenance,
have many roots in the joints, and are all -in -all in very bad
condition. The Director of Public Works added that each area has
approximately two miles of streets, which would be the most the
Department of Public Works believe it would be able to tackle as a
pilot project. Committee Member Pamela Frantum asked if there was
any reason why the project could not encompass simply the worst
streets in areas A and B. The Director of Public Works replied
that that might be one way of approaching this, however his
approach was not doing a block at a time but improving the entire
neighborhood. From a construction standpoint, it would be easier
for a contractor to do improvements on an area rather than on a
block -by -block basis. There would also be a slightly better price.
A guest noted that since some of the blocks under the areas A and
B, as currently defined, would be left out, it still seems as if
this would be done piecemeal, rather than area by area. The
Director of Public Works noted that that was true, and reiterated
that from a technical standpoint he would like to do the entire
area.
A guest asked that if this program were adopted would other
neighborhoods get the same level of information as the Earle Brown
neighborhood, or would the City automatically do projects? The
guest asked if other neighborhoods shouldn't also be notified of
the informational meetings. The Director of Public Works replied
that the City Council would have to discuss what amount of public
participation it would like to have in any such program. The
Director of Public Works noted that it was his hope that this would
be the beginning of a twenty year program. He explained that any
improvement project is required to go through the feasibility study
and public hearings and that he hoped any new project which would
be initiated would go through the same level of public information
as this project (i.e., public informational meetings, hearings,
etc.) for every project.
The Director of Public Works explained that the reason why this
project concept started in the southeast neighborhood was that
several sources, including the Maxfield Study, recommended that the
City look at ways to help the southeast neighborhood to upgrade its
facilities and its image. He explained further that the City's
pavement management program was currently rating the condition of
all City streets. Out of that analysis should come a report of
where the worst streets in the City are. This report would provide
a technical basis for street improvement decisions. The City
Council also may consider other factors, such as the
recommendations of the Maxfield Study, which would guide where any
street improvement projects would take place.
The Director of Public Works introduced Public Works Coordinator
Diane Spector to discuss proposed project financing.
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The Public Works Coordinator noted that all utility costs of the
proposed project would be paid from the respective utility
construction funds. She explained that street construction would
be funded from special assessment bonds that would be financed
approximately thirty percent (30 from special assessments and
seventy percent (70 from general revenue bonds. A pie chart was
presented which showed that forty -one percent (41 of the total
project cost would be paid from bonds and municipal state aid
funds, nineteen percent (19 from the water utility, fifteen
percent (15 from the sanitary sewer utility, seven percent (7
from the storm drainage utility, fifteen percent (15 from special
assessments and three percent (3 from the proposed assessment
stabilization program.
The Public Works Coordinator explained that the estimated special
assessment, per residential property for this program would be
$1,523 with a monthly payment of about $23 per month the first
year, reducing to about $14 per month in the tenth year. In
addition to special assessments, bonds would be financed through
general revenues which would result in additional property tax
payments of, for average properties, about $4.50 to $6.50 per year.
The Public Works Coordinator explained that a number of persons had
raised concerns about showing an increase in value as a result of
this project. She explained that at the City Council meeting on
February 22, 1993, the City Council had preliminarily approved
hiring an independent appraiser to evaluate this increase in value.
This approval was contingent on the approval of the Earle Brown
Neighborhood Housing Advisory Committee. She explained that the
information from an independent appraiser is important because by
law it is only possible to levy special assessments if it can be
demonstrated that the property increased in value by at least the
amount of the special assessment.
The Public Works Coordinator explained that there were also raised
questions of fairness. For example, should any assessments be made
using the existing policy of a per unit basis or should assessments
be made on a front footage basis or perhaps on some other basis?
For example, per unit the special assessment, as currently
proposed, would be $1,523 per buildable lot. On a per front
footage basis, for a forty foot lot that assessment would be
$1,040, but for a seventy -five foot lot it would be $1,950. A
second question would be how to reduce the impact of special
assessments on low and fixed income homeowners. To address this
question, staff proposed that the City Council consider adopting an
assessment stabilization program.
Under the proposed assessment stabilization program owners would
pay a portion of the special assessment on a sliding scale based on
income. The City would buy down the remainder of that special
assessment by paying the property owner a lump sum. Two options
have been suggested for consideration: Under the first option, the
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City would pay a prorated amount for all households with incomes
less than the HUD moderate income limit. This option would affect
an estimated sixty (60) families out of approximately two hundred
(200) properties in area A. Under a second option, the City would
pay one hundred percent (100 of the special assessment for all
households with incomes less than the low income limit and a
prorated amount for households with incomes within the moderate
income range. Under this option, the City would pay the full
assessment for an estimated thirty (30) families and a prorated
amount for an additional estimated thirty (30) families. The
Public Works Coordinator explained that the estimated cost of the
first year of the assessment stabilization program would be
$40,000 $70,000, depending on the option chosen.
The Director of Public Works concluded the presentation by noting
that staff was requesting immediate direction from the Earle Brown
Neighborhood Housing Advisory Committee.
Chairperson Brandvold reminded the committee that consideration of
the proposed neighborhood street improvement concept could be
stopped at any time. She summarized the decisions which were
before the committee this evening as:
1. Whether the City should go ahead with further
consideration of the neighborhood street improvement
concept and whether at this time area A or area B should
be selected for further consideration.
2. Whether the City should consider the adoption of an
assessment stabilization program.
3. Whether the City should move forward with hiring an
appraiser.
4. What should be the basis of special assessments.
Chairperson Brandvold inquired of the Director of Public Works
whether a decision was needed on item number 4 this evening. The
Director of Public Works replied no, a decision was not necessary.
However, he would like to add that staff would prefer some
indication from the committee if staff should also consider looking
at additional items, such as plantings, lighting, etc.
Chairperson Brandvold opened up discussion on item number 1.
Committee Member Dolores Hastings said that she thought further
consideration of the street improvement concept was a good idea.
She believed that information should be provided to the entire
City, perhaps by way of an article in the newspapers. She noted
that she must have had 35 -40 calls from persons in other parts of
the City regarding this concept. The Director of Public Works said
that he understood the need to get information out to other
residents, that there was a need to get information prepared for
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the feasibility study out. Chairperson Brandvold noted that it was
appropriate to include feasibility study information in the Earle
Brown Neighborhood newsletter. There was a motion by Committee
Member Hastings and seconded by Committee Member Frantum to
recommend to the City Council that the City go forward with further
consideration of the neighborhood street improvement concept with
the understanding that further consideration could be stopped at
any time. The motion was approved unanimously. Chairperson
Brandvold opened discussion on the second part of item number one,
the selection of area A or area B. Committee Member Hastings
inquired of the Director of Public Works whether, based on the
sanitary sewer information, area A or area B would be preferable.
The Director of Public Works replied that area B looks like it has
the worst sanitary sewer. Chairperson Brandvold suggested that the
selection of the particular area wait until at least informational
meetings. Committee Member Frantum moved and Committee Member
Hastings seconded the recommendation that no decision be made on
the selection of the specific area until after the informational
meetings and the public hearing. It was approved unanimously.
Chairperson Brandvold opened discussion on item number 2, the
assessment stabilization program. Committee Member Torres moved
and Committee Member Hastings seconded the recommendation to the
City Council that the City consider the adoption of an assessment
stabilization program. It was approved unanimously.
Chairperson Brandvold opened discussion on item number 3.
Committee Member Frantum moved, and Committee Member Hastings
seconded, a motion to recommend that the City move forward on
hiring an appraiser. The motion was approved unanimously.
Chairperson Brandvold initiated discussion of possible amenities to
the project. Committee Member Dolores Hastings inquired as to the
possibility of getting a nursery to agree to give a discount on
trees to property owners in the neighborhood. Director of Public
Works Sy Knapp described the approach taken to landscaping on other
street projects, such as West River Road and 69th Avenue, where
landscaping was done as a follow -up contract to the street
improvement. He stated that if this project were to go ahead, he
wold recommend looking at using that type of approach, but would
handle it as a separate issue.
Chairperson Brandvold described an experience she had with
construction where the roots to a large oak were disturbed and the
tree eventually died. She inquired if it were possible to include
in such a project a requirement that if the City needs to disturb
trees to do the utility work that it would not be the owner's
responsibility to replace the tree or to take down the tree if it
were to die. The Director of Public Works stated that the Council
could look at instituting a policy, such as if a tree is disturbed
and dies within a specified amount of time then the City would take
down the dead tree and would replace it with a new one.
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A meeting guest noted that his front yard has a grade about ten
feet above the street. He inquired as to how a situation like his
would be handled. The Director of Public Works indicated that the
proposed grade changes on the streets are not that substantial,
perhaps one foot at most. He stated that every effort would be
made to match grades. A meeting guest inquired if the City would
be looking at installing additional street lights. The Director of
Public Works explained that the City's current street light policy
is to have a street light at every intersection, and if the block
is longer than 700 feet to have a mid -block street light. He noted
that in this area the blocks are shorter than 700 feet, therefore
there are no mid -block street lights. He explained the committee
could recommend that the City consider installing additional mid
block street lights in this area. A guest in the audience inquired
if police note that additional street lighting increases security.
Director of Public Works Sy Knapp replied affirmatively.
Committee Member Frantum noted that the Maxfield Study stated that
there was no distinction between Minneapolis and Brooklyn Center.
She stated that ornamental lighting would make such a distinction.
Chairperson Brandvold requested that staff obtain cost estimates of
installing mid -block lighting. The Director of Public Works stated
that such estimates would be included in the feasibility study,
along with some options. Committee Member Frantum moved, and
Committee Member Hastings seconded, a recommendation that staff
obtain these estimates on ornamental street lighting. The motion
was approved unanimously.
Committee Member Frantum moved, and Committee Member Hastings
seconded, a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane Spector for Tom Bublitz
Recording Secretary
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