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MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND STATE OF MINNESOTA
REGULAR SESSION
NOVEMBER 16, 1999
CONFERENCE ROOM B
CALL TO ORDER
The Brooklyn Center Housing Commission was called to order by Chairperson Erickson at
7 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairperson Ernie Erickson, Commissioners James Lano, Muhammed Okoya Lawal, Lloyd
Deuel, Kathleen Carmody, Michael VonDeLinde, Mark Yelich and Donald Arm. Also in
attendance was Community Development Specialist Tom Bublitz.
Councilmember Ed Nelson was attending a Council Work Session and was absent from the
meeting.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
There was a motion by Commissioner Carmody and seconded by Commissioner Deuel to
approve the agenda as submitted. The motion passed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES October 19, 1999
There was a motion by Commissioner Carmody and seconded by Commissioner Deuel to
approve the minutes of the October 19, 1999 Housing Commission meeting as submitted.
The motion passed.
CHAIRPERSONS REPORT
Chairperson Erickson noted that in the past Commission Chairs had received Council minutes
and noted that he has not been receiving the minutes. The staff liaison noted he would look into
this matter and see whether or not the minutes could be sent to the Chair.
CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF HOUSING IMPROVEMENT AREA AND REVIEW OF
BROOKLYN PARK TOWNHOUSE LOAN PROGRAM
Chairperson Erickson noted that at the last Housing Commission meeting the issue of 3 loan
money offered by Brooklyn Park was addressed by the representatives from the townhouse
associations.
Chairperson Erickson recognized Mr. Roger Gorman, CEO of Impact Management Services a
corporation in Brooklyn Center that manages townhouse associations. Mr. Gorman distributed
information to the Commission showing a proposed budget for Mallard Pond Twinhome
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Association demonstrating that a 3 interest rate was needed to make the loan payments feasible
for this association. For comparison purposes an 8 interest rate was also analyzed in a cash
flow table. It was Mr. Gorman's contention that a 3 interest rate was necessary to make the
loan feasible for the townhouse associations he represented.
The Community Development Specialist explained that he had met with staff from the City of
Brooklyn Park and Brooklyn Park staff had informed him that the 3 loan money, initially
offered through Brooklyn Park's Townhouse Loan Program, was an introductory rate and that
the current rate on loans for townhouse associations in Brooklyn Park is at 7 He also noted
that Brooklyn Park did not make use of the state Housing Improvement Area Statute but instead
developed its' own program because they felt the state Housing Improvement Area Statute was
too cumbersome. Brooklyn Park used money from a special set aside of funds from tax
increment received on various projects. The set aside was developed through special legislation
which provides a certain percentage of tax increment dollars be set aside for housing programs.
Mr. Gorman continued to review the handout on the reserve analysis and cash flow information
regarding 3% and 8% interest rates on loans to the associations he manages. He noted that the
Mallard Creek and Mallard Pond Twinhomes Associations are looking for funds for replacement
of siding and gutters. He noted the association fee is currently $156 per month at Mallard Pond
and also noted that the association could only handle a loan if it was at a 3 to 5 interest rate.
Commissioner Arm inquired what would happen in the associations if 3 money was not
available. Mr. Gorman replied that the association could special assess for the money or simply
not do the siding and gutter replacement. Mr. Gorman also noted that he manages associations
in Brooklyn Park and that he is aware of associations who have a need for loans to d4
improvements but have refused the 7% money as it was not feasible for them at a 7% rate.
Commissioner Carmody questioned how the City could arrive at a 3 interest rate for loans.
The Community Development Specialist again reviewed the City's policy on interest rates for
public improvements which essentially specifies that the interest rate is to be 2 points above the
interest rate of the last bond issue of the City with a ten year term on the loan.
Chairperson Erickson inquired how many associations Mr. Gorman's company manages in the
City of Brooklyn Center. Mr. Gorman replied that he manages the 3 associations listed, Mallard
Pond Twinhomes, Mallard Creek and Brookwood.
Commissioner Arm expressed concern as to whether or not the City could actually afford to offer
a 3 interest rate.
Commissioner Deuel noted that the Housing Commission is concerned about proper maintenance
of townhomes and that this is an important issue in his opinion.
Chairperson Erickson referred back to the City of New Hope townhouse loan project reviewed
at the last meeting and accomplished under the Housing Improvement Area Act. He noted that
the New Hope townhouse complex had a long list of serious problems and failures with their
units and the total cost was $600,000 for repair of 30 to 40 units with a significant amount goino
for administrative and inspection costs.
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Commissioner Yelich commented that he was concerned about subsidizing a loan interest rate
for a specific group and would prefer that market rate financing be used for any loan program.
Commissioner Carmody commented that, a few years ago when the City Council reviewed the
Deferred Loan Program for single family homes, the City could only spend $15,000, through
its CDBG program, for home improvements even though many of the homes needed $25,000 to
$35,000 to complete the repairs. This resulted in accomplishing only a small amount of the
repairs needed on each home and at that time the Council looked at the concept of dividing the
City into districts and to do loans on a larger geographic scale and also to provide enough money
to each homeowner to complete all the necessary repairs. The concept at that time was to buy
down the interest rate on the loans and at the time it was her recollection that staff thought the
rate could possibly be bought down to 5 She noted that there were problems with CDBG
regulations in accomplishing a program of buying down interest rates and the project was not
pursued.
Chairperson Erickson inquired of Mr. Gorman as to whether or not the problems with the
associations he represents are severe enough for associations to consider a market rate loan. Mr.
Gorman replied that his believe was that the maximum interest rate the associations could afford
would be 5
Chairperson Erickson noted that this past weekend he drove by the Brookwood Townhouse
complex noting that they are very attractive looking units and are well maintained. He noted that
it appears, from talking to the association representatives and Mr. Gorman, that the 3
associations are spending a considerable amount per year to maintain their properties in a quality
manner. Chairperson Erickson invited comments from the commission regarding a potential loan
program for townhouses in Brooklyn Center.
Commissioner Arm suggested that the Housing Commission obtain some input from the City
staff, in particular the Finance Director, with regard to what interest rates could be for
developing a loan program.
Commission members requested the Community Development Specialist to discuss the issue of
developing a townhouse loan program with the City Manager and Community Development
Director and also to review any potential revenue sources for such a program.
Commissioner Lano noted that he recently had home repairs done on his single family home and
paid a 9% interest rate for the money. He questioned why townhouse associations could not
absorb a similar interest rate. He noted that he had lived in a townhouse development and
expressed the concern that townhomes are requesting special financing for home repairs.
Commissioner Arm made a motion that the City's Community Development Director or another
staff person attend the next Housing Commission meeting to discuss potential revenue sources
and potential interest rates for a townhouse loan program.
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Chairperson Erickson noted that the staff may be able to do this with a memo rather than
attending the meeting.
Commissioner Arm revised his motion to state that the Housing Commission's consideration
of a loan program for townhouse associations be tabled pending further information from
the City's Community Development Director or Finance Director with regard to interest
rates and revenue sources. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Deuel. The motion
passed.
Commissioner Carmody suggested that the Housing Commission also obtain some input from
the City Council regarding whether or not they would be interested in pursuing a townhouse loan
program.
REVIEW OF OCCUPANCY LIMITS SURVEY OF CITIES
The Community Development Specialist noted he had surveyed other cities with regard to their
ordinances relative to occupancy limits and noted he had received results from Brooklyn Park,
Maple Grove, Plymouth, Robbinsdale, New Hope and Crystal. Also included were the
occupancy standards listed in the Uniform Housing Code and the Uniform Building Code.
Commission members briefly reviewed the memorandum from the City Attorney's office
regarding occupancy limits.
Commissioner Yelich questioned whether the provisions inSection 319:55 subdivision la and b
of the Brooklyn Park ordinance, which addressed the limitation -of occupancy of a rental dwellinwa
unit to a specified number of square feet of habitable room floor space and subdivision 2, which
specified not more than one family, except for temporary guests, shall occupy a dwelling unit,
were mutually exclusive or worked in conjunction.
Commissioner Carmody stated that she believed both subdivisions worked together and that one
did not exclude or make an exception for the other.
Chairperson Erickson left the meeting at 7:55 p.m.
In discussion of the existing provisions of the City code with regard to occupancy, Commissioner
Carmody stated that she does not believe the City is enforcing the ordinance now and that she
does not see how this type of ordinance would be enforceable.
Commissioner Yelich inquired whether the current code is adequate and if not what
recommendation should the Housing Commission make to the City Council.
Chairperson Erickson returned to the meeting at 8 p.m.
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Commissioner Lano inquired as to what brought the issue to the Housing Commission in the first
place. The Commission discussed briefly how the issue came before the Housing Commission
noting that it was contained in the Council's 1999 goals and that generally the occupancy issu*
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addressed single family homes in the City. It was noted that one of the items that brought the
issue to the attention of the Council was houses that had a great number of cars in the driveway
indicating a large number of people living in the house.
Commissioner Carmody again referred to how the City could enforce any change in the
ordinance making it more restrictive when it appears the existing ordinance is not possible to
enforce adequately.
After continued discussion by the Housing Commission there was a motion by Commissioner
Carmody and seconded by Commissioner Deuel to recommend to the City Council, after
consideration by the Housing Commission of the city's existing occupancy ordinance
provisions and, after reviewing occupancy ordinances from numerous cities, that the
existing occupancy requirements as contained in Chapter 12 of the Builidng Maintenance
Code, should not be amended. Upon a vote being taken on the motion, the following voted
in favor: Commissioners Erickson, Lano, Okoya Lawal, Deuel, Carmody, VonDeLinde and
Yelich. Voting against: Commissioner Arm.
There was a motion by Commissioner Yelich and seconded by Commissioner Arm that if
there are concerns about the occupancy of dwelling units in the City, the City should
address the issue by enforcing the existing ordinance. The motion passed.
OTHER BUSINESS
Commissioner Deuel noted that information from the last Housing Commission meeting inferred
that the townhouses built at Brookwood, Mallard Creek and Mallard Ponds may have been built
with inferior products, and in the case of the Mallard Pond area, built on swampy ground.
Commissioner Deuel inquired as to whether or not these kinds of things are still occurring or has
the situation with regard to construction materials improved.
Chairperson Erickson noted that sometimes products on the market that have been approved for
construction have inadequate testing. He noted it is known that some products approved for use
do not work and he cited the example in the past of plastic water pipes which were approved for
home construction and which later failed in performance. He noted the plastic pipes went on the
market and were not adequate for home construction. He noted that most of the plastic water
pipes were used in the southern United States and not in Minnesota.
Commissioner Arm noted another example of an item that had been approved for home
construction was aluminum wiring which proved to be a fire hazard.
Commissioner Deuel noted that he had attended a Townhall meeting the other night hosted by
Representative Phil Carruthers and Senator Linda Scheid. He noted that at the meeting category
1 homes were discussed and he noted that currently there is a moratorium on the implementation
of category 1 homes. He noted that he wondered why the category 1 home provisions cannot
be adopted since they appear to provide a better constructed home.
Commissioner Yelich stated that he would like the Housing Commission to look at the
enforcement sections of Chapter 12 specifically 12 -1001 to 12 -1302 at the next meeting.
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There was a general consensus of commission members to put a review of Chapter 12 on the next
agenda.
Chairperson Erickson inquired if there was any additional business. There was no additional
business brought forth by the Housing Commission and Chairperson Erickson entertained a
motion for adjournment.
Commissioner Okoya -Lawal noted that he would not be able to attend the December Housing
Commission meeting since he had a previous commitment related to his work.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Commissioner Carmody and seconded by Commissioner Arm to
adjourn the meet' g. Th e motion passed. The Brooklyn Center Housing Commission
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