HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994 01-31 CCM Work Session MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY
OF HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
JANUARY 31, 1994
CONSTITUTION HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Work Session was called to order by Mayor Todd Paulson at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Todd Paulson, Councilmembers Celia Scott, Dave Rosene, Barb Kalligher, and Kristen
Mann. Also present were City Manager Gerald Splinter, Public Works Coordinator Diane
Spector, City Engineer Mark Maloney, and Council Secretary Debbie Wolfe.
Mayor Paulson welcomed the residents present and stated the agenda for the meeting this
evening is a discussion of the Humboldt Avenue /73rd Avenue improvements. He introduced the
City Manager to begin the staff presentation.
STAFF PRESENTATION
The City Manager explained staff was directed by the City Council on 11/22/93 and 12/20/93
to hold a "Step 5" informational meeting regarding proposed improvements to Humboldt Avenue
and to 73rd Avenue, which was held on January 19, 1994. Staff was also directed by the
Council on 11/22/93, to collect necessary data to proposed concrete proposals at a work session
on January 31. Based on Council actions 12/20/93, the following schedule is to be followed,
following this work session:
2/14/94 City Council considers adoption of a resolution which "adopts one
concrete solution" and sets 3/14/94 as the date for a public hearing on the
proposed improvement.
mid- February Public informational meeting(s) (Step 7 of the Building Block process) -if so
directed by the City Council.
Week of
February 28 Notices of public hearing(s) sent to all property owners on Humboldt
Avenue (and 73rd Avenue).
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March 2 and 9,
1994 Notices of public hearing(s) published in the Brooklyn Center Post (the
City's official newspaper).
March 14 Public hearing(s) conducted
Resolution(s) ordering improvement(s) considered by City Council at
this meeting, or at a future meeting.
The City Manager stated during the past four months much effort has been directed to
monitoring and evaluating existing conditions, attempting to "define the problems ",
developing options for consideration, and evaluating the impacts of those options. A report
prepared by staff, presented to the Council documents that information.
The City Manager introduced City Engineer Mark Maloney who continued the presentation.
The City Engineer stated five criteria were adopted by staff when evaluating the effective
solutions as follows:
Criteria #1 to the extent possible, the goal should be to eliminate "External to External"
traffic (i.e. - traffic which uses Humboldt Avenue as a bypass through the
neighborhood - whether that be from T.H. 252 to T.H. 100, from the northerly
section of T.H. 252 to the southerly section of T.H. 252 or to I -94 or 694, or
between other outside origins and destinations).
Criteria #2 to the extent possible, system changes should be considered which would
accommodate "External to Internal" and "Internal to External" traffic (i.e. -
traffic from /to the Trunk Highway system going to /from an origin or
destination within the neighborhood) by utilizing those collector streets which
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are least disruptive to the neighborhood.
Criteria #3 "Internal to Internal" (i.e. traffic from the neighborhood journeying to a
location in the neighborhood) traffic needs to be accommodated.
Criteria #4 any "solution" should provide a net benefit to the entire neighborhood, rather
than benefit one segment of the neighborhood to the detriment of another.
Criteria #5 any "solution" needs to be evaluated on the basis of at least the following
factors:
impacts on people - with special consideration of the impacts on
abutting property owners and tenants
impacts on property values
impacts on the larger neighborhood and the community -
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including commercial developments
impacts on the transportation system
impacts on mass transit services, emergency services, etc.
costs and availability of funding
Staff has developed two proposals in which they have attempted to meet the five criteria.
Proposal No. 1 -A 'Build in 1994" Alternative
(Reconstruction Option)
If the Council wishes to proceed with a 'Build in 1994" alternative at this time, staff
recommends the following "package plans" which combines parts of several basic options:
Reconstruct Humboldt Avenue to a 30 -foot width (Option 3b) or to a 26 foot width
(Option 3a).
Reconstruct Humboldt Avenue from 65th to 69th Avenue, using a landscaped center
island parkway design (Option 7).
Reconstruct 73rd Avenue to a narrower width than the existing 73rd Avenue
roadway, except where provisions for on- street parking are determined to be
necessary. This improvement could incorporate a curvilinear alignment and should
include installation of sidewalk(s).
The City Engineer noted the City of Brooklyn Park would need to agree with, and
participate in the selection and implementation of any alternative on 73rd Avenue.
Along with any roadway improvements, incorporate generous landscape and
streetscape improvements, driveway designs which improve access to and exit from
residential properties, and other features designed to improve the Humboldt Avenue
Environment and reduce specific traffic problems.
(Optional) Install traffic signal system(s) on Humboldt Avenue at 69th Avenue
and /or at 73rd Avenue.
Install all -way stop signs at the school crosswalk at 72nd Avenue.
Request the City of Brooklyn Park to consider traffic control measures which
discourage the use of Humboldt and /or 73rd Avenues as bypasses for "External to
External" traffic.
Work with the Minnesota Department of Transportation (Mn/DOT) and Brooklyn
Park to implement some form of changes to the T.H. 252/Humboldt Avenue
intersection (Option 8).
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Work with MnDOT to investigate and implement short-term and long -term
improvements to T.H. 252 (Option 9).
Work with MnDOT to investigate possible changes to the Humboldt Avenue/T.H.
100/1 -694 interchange (Option 10).
Proposal No. 2 - An "Interim Action and Study" Alternative
A considerable effort has been made to evaluate existing conditions, define the problems,
identify and evaluate options. The license plate studies which were conducted were
specifically designed to provide information regarding two issues which, at first, appeared
to be the major issues which citizens wanted the City to resolve, i.e.:
on Humboldt Avenue - the issue of through traffic from T.H. 252 to T.H. 100.
on 73rd Avenue - the issue of non - resident traffic.
Additional studies to provide answers to unanswered questions could be considered to
include:
A complete, detailed origin/destination study of all "external to external' and "external
to internal' trips through a specifically defined area or neighborhood.
Detailed, computerized analyses of the impacts of any number of system change
options.
Air quality studies
Other environmental studies
If the City Council does not wish to proceed on the basis of Proposal No. 1, staff
recommends consideration of the following "Interim Action and Study" alternative:
Place a bituminous overlay on Humboldt Avenue in 1994 to improve its surface
condition and extend its life for two or three years while the following described
evaluation process is conducted. Sealcoat 73rd Avenue in 1994 to extend its life two
to three years.
Install all -way stop signs at two additional intersections (i.e. - at the school crossing
at 72nd Avenue and at the 70th Avenue intersection).
(Optional) Consider installation of traffic signals on Humboldt Avenue - at 69th
Avenue and/or at 73rd Avenue.
- Install all -way stop signs at the 73rd Avenue/Dupont (south leg) intersection.
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Monitor possible detouring of traffic to other streets in the neighborhood, and
implement "neighborhood traffic control measures" on an as- needed basis.
Request the City of Brooklyn Park to consider traffic control measures on their street
system.
Request Mn/DOT to study and make changes in its highway system - which will
reduce the bypass problems and other identified problems.
In cooperation with the City of Brooklyn Park, create a special task force, with
representation from the residential areas of Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park,
from business establishments, staff and/or City Council members from the cities of
Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park and with representation by Mn/DOT. Charge
the task force with the responsibility to conduct needed studies and public meetings
as they determine to be necessary for the development of a comprehensive planning
and transportation plan for the area of Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park between
West River Road and Zane, from 69th Avenue to Brookdale Drive (or 85th Avenue).
Direct the task force to develop and submit their plan within some specified time
limit, so that implementation of the plan may then begin.
The City Engineer reviewed each of the 11 options based on the following criteria:
1. Estimated Impact on Traffic Volume and Traffic Problems on Humboldt Avenue.
2. Estimated Impact on Traffic Volume and Traffic Problems on 73rd Avenue.
I Estimated Impact on Traffic Volume and Traffic Problems and Other Impacts on
Greater Neighborhood.
4. Estimated Impact on Traffic Volume and Traffic Problems on Total Transportation
System
5. Impact on MTC buses, School buses, Emergency Services, etc.
6. State Aid Funding Impact
7. Impact on Comprehensive Plan
8. Environmental Studies Required?
9. Aesthetic Impacts
10. Costs and Special Assessments
The eleven (11) options reviewed were:
Option 1 Cul -de -sac
Option 2 Median Barrier
Option 3 Improvements Within the Existing Right -of -Way
Option 4 Purchase the homes on one side of Humboldt and construct a 4 -lane divided
roadway (similar to 69th Avenue)
Option 5 Traffic control measures such as multiple all -way Stop intersections and /or
traffic signals
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Option 6 One -way Street System
Option 7 Divided roadway 65th to 73rd within existing right -of -way
Option 8 Modifications to T.H. 252/Humboldt Avenue intersection
Option 9 Mn/DOT Modifications to T.H. 252
Option 10 Modifications to Humboldt Avenue/TH 100 Ramps
Option 11 Neighborhood Traffic Controls
The City Manager summarized the two options recommended by staff as the Reconstruction
Option and the Interim Proposal. He stressed the importance of Brooklyn Center working
with Brooklyn Park and Mn/DOT on the project no matter which option is selected.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION
Councilmember Rosene stated his philosophy concerning the project is to protect the
neighborhood. He stated he would rather treat the disease instead of the symptoms. He
continued the City cannot deal with the entire problem, but it must do what it can to
improve the situation.
Mayor Paulson asked staff if there are any other options that should be considered by the
Council. He added one interesting option mentioned previously was to have a business
diverter off of TH 252 along 69th to Humboldt that would allow access to the Humboldt
Avenue businesses but avoid bringing traffic through the neighborhood.
Councilmember Kalligher asked Mayor Paulson if under the business diverter option
Humboldt Avenue would be closed or open. Mayor Paulson responded he was not sure
what would happen to Humboldt.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mike Schwartz, 7100 Humboldt Avenue N., suggested traffic diverters be used. If designed
correctly, he said the northern neighbors would be able to find their way through. He added
he believes those who want to find alternative routes will get to where they want to go. He
stated he cares about the neighborhood and feels diverters would keep the traffic off the
side streets.
Councilmember Rosene suggested one possibility would be to have exits from Humboldt
Avenue south and north restricting the traffic.
Mr. Schwartz showed the Council possible chokers where traffic could be restricted for hours
hours in the morning going south and three hours in the afternoon going north. He stated
this would eliminate some of the rush hour traffic. He also suggested speed bumps be
implemented on Newton, Dupont, and Humboldt.
Councilmember Mann asked if diverters on Humboldt Avenue would require Metro Council
involvement.
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The City Engineer stated anything that would prevent Humboldt Avenue from going
between Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park would require agreement of both cities.
David Olsen, 1501 73rd Avenue No., stated he has been the mouthpiece for the Humboldt
Avenue Residents Association (HARA). He asked the HARA members in the audience to
stand. He added he has been working on this problem for five months and currently there
is no proposal to shut down Humboldt Avenue. He stated all proposals reviewed kept in
mind emergency vehicle access. He does not believe this problem will be solved with a
single solution but only over a long period of time. He is concerned about the Humboldt
Avenue businesses. He asked for a commitment from City staff, City Council, residents, and
business owners that the traffic currently is too much for Humboldt Avenue, a neighborhood
street.
Mr. Olsen presented a petition of which 90% of the residents asked signed. He stated
HARA is against diverting traffic onto other neighborhood streets and they want it diverted
back to TH 252. He agrees with Proposal #2 in creating a task force to look at the
problem. He said HARA would prefer speed bumps and they like the idea of stop signs at
every available intersection to bring down the traffic numbers. He continued restricting
traffic during rush hours is an acceptable idea to HARA.
Councilmember Kalligher asked if the City can add speed bumps to a State Aid road. The
City Manager responded speed bumps cannot be used on a State Aid road.
Councilmember Mann questioned Mr. Olsen as to whether Humboldt Avenue would stay
the same with the diverters. Mr. Olsen responded Humboldt Avenue would stay the way
it is and diverters can be constructed with the present condition of the road. Mr. Olsen
added 73rd Avenue needs to be constructed to discourage drive - through traffic.
Councilmember Rosene stated he supports the idea of a task force to look at the entire
picture and hopefully take action to benefit both Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park. He
suggested the Council pass a resolution creating the task force. Mayor Paulson stated he
wants to keep tonight's discussions informal and no decisions are to be made during this
meeting.
Councilmember Mann stated she does not understand how the diverters would allow mass
transit to go north and south. Mr. Olsen showed examples of diverters and added
emergency vehicles could turn either way. He showed a sample of a choker and stated
HARA would like the Council to consider chokers. Mr. Olsen stated we need to reduce
the quantity of traffic and he is concerned about the rush hour traffic.
Councilmember Scott stated she has not heard discussed the school crossing on 72nd
Avenue. She stated residents have expressed this is not a safe crosswalk for the school. She
suggested some signage prior to the crossing to alert traffic to the upcoming school crossing.
Mayor Paulson stated there has been a crossing guard serving the crosswalk.
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Councilmember Rosene requested more residents express their ideas regarding the signal
light at 73rd. He added possibly a long red light and shorter green light would divert some
traffic. Councilmember Rosene stated personally he does not feel a 69th Avenue signal is
needed.
Leland Stapher, 1113 73rd Avenue N., stated he feels a diverter is as close to a one -way
street as it can be. He believes a one -way street would cut the traffic in half. He does not
see why staff does not consider the taxpayers expense when coming up with options. A one -
way street would be less expensive and the only way he thinks it can be done.
Diane Neuens, 82nd and Dupont Avenue N., stated she works and shops in Brooklyn Center
and does not consider herself an outsider. She feels part of the residents group but feels
she is not being considered. She suggested the option of putting traffic signals up with no
right turns allowed. She said this would allow residents time to get out of their driveways.
She does not take TH 252 because she feels it is a dangerous street. She stated if Humboldt
Avenue is closed, she will find another side street to take. She does not know why TH 252
cannot become a freeway.
Councilmember Rosene thanked Ms. Neuens for her comments and he does consider her
to be part of the neighborhood.
Mayor Paulson stated the integrity of the neighborhoods needs to be maintained and
suggested Brooklyn Park residents talk to the Brooklyn Park City Council and voice their
concerns about Humboldt Avenue and ask for improvement to TH 252.
Virginia Bannister, 7240 Humboldt Avenue, stated traffic signals would prevent her from
getting out of her driveway whether the light was red or green.
Roy Jensen, 7208 Humboldt Avenue, feels the staff options laid out would hamper
emergency traffic. He stated part of the problem on Humboldt Avenue has been caused by
Brooklyn Park, and Brooklyn Park is responsible for the problem and needs to work with
Brooklyn Center to resolve it. He added anyone who lives on Humboldt Avenue is aware
of the noise and litter caused by the traffic. He is not in favor of traffic lights and would
like to see a lot of stop signs and speed bumps.
Councilmember Rosene stated one of the issues that did not come out in the options is
keeping the integrity of the neighborhood. He feels Humboldt Avenue is a barrier between
the East and West neighborhoods and divides them. He believes the Council should try to
enhance the neighborhood.
Larry Cuskey, 7024 Humboldt Avenue, stated he asked Councilmember Kalligher previously
about Xerxes Avenue and asked if she had yet gotten an answer for him. Councilmember
Kalligher stated she did and the City Manager will answer his question. The City Manager
stated there was a proposal to put Xerxes Avenue through but the major block was the
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environmental impact of putting a road through the swamp and expense of running along
the single family homes along Palmer Lake.
Mr. Cuskey stated an emergency vehicle could not get through on Humboldt Avenue, and
he does not believe stop lights would help the situation. He stated if Brooklyn Park had
done their part on Xerxes Avenue, Brooklyn Center would not be having this problem. He
said there needs to be a way to push traffic out of the Northwest sector to TH 252. He
encouraged the Council to look at the option of opening Xerxes Avenue.
Debbie Pencil, 1500 Amy Lane, stated she has lived here 18 years and the issue is not just
being able to get out of driveways but also the noise pollution, air pollution, and the safety
of the children. She referred to the Brooklyn Park City Engineer's letter and understood
it to read Mr. Brown thinks it is ok to live with the traffic the way it is now. She stated she
is not crazy about stop lights or stop signs but likes the idea of traffic diverters and
suggested they be constructed on the other streets as well. She added currently Brooklyn
Park is diverting traffic from West River Road to TH 252 and she suggested Brooklyn
Center follow the same action. She stated people are more important than pavement.
Bernard Anderson stated he does not take Humboldt Avenue. He feels when 610 is
completed the traffic will take 610 and he feels this is holding traffic up on TH 252.
Roger Lippold, 7012 Humboldt Avenue, shared with the Council some of the things that
have happened on Humboldt Avenue. He stated he knew there was traffic on the street
when he moved in and it didn't get bad until 5-6 years ago when TH 252 came in. He did
not expect Humboldt Avenue to become a major roadway as it has. He feels the problem
is the traffic coming down Brookdale Drive. He suggested putting a stop light with no right
turns during certain hours of the day. He said the no right turns would need to be enforced
by the police.
Tom Nystrom, 807 73rd Avenue N., asked Council if diverters are put on Humboldt Avenue
whether the traffic would just use 73rd Avenue. He suggested diverters and chokers be put
on 73rd Avenue also. He suggested no left turns be allowed off TH 252 between 4 - 6 p.m.
He asked staff if speed bumps could be put on 73rd. The City Manager responded since
73rd Avenue is a State Aid road speed bumps could not be used. He said a curvilinear
system would be acceptable on an MSA road. Mr. Nystrom suggested traffic be metered on
610 from Coon Rapids and possibly the task force could look at that also.
Mayor Paulson called for a brief recess at 8:50 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 9:05 p.m.
Chuck Lenthe, 7007 Irving Avenue N., believes the decision will affect the greater
neighborhood so he has spent some time trying to get more greater neighborhood
representation at this meeting. He feels there has been some exaggeration this evening,
although he is not saying the problem is not real. He is glad the HARA feels the cul -de -sac
is not a viable alternative. He feels traffic will only be diverted from Humboldt Avenue onto
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the other nearby neighborhood streets. Mr. Lenthe added he would be happy to be on the
task force.
Eli Iverson, 6900 Humboldt Avenue, stated the Council should consider putting in stop signs
on every other block on Humboldt Avenue. He does not want to see the City spending
money on chokers when stop signs may work and they are cheaper.
Mike Schwartz, 7100 Humboldt Avenue, stated his name and telephone number were on all
literature distributed by HARA and questioned why Mr. Lenthe didn't contact him with any
questions he had or request additional information about Humboldt Avenue.
Duane Henzel, 1500 Amy Lane, stated when dealing with Brooklyn Park and State of
Minnesota it was very slow. He feels timing is everything on traffic signals and the problem
with signage is enforcement which the police must do. Mr. Henzel stated he would like to
see more police coverage at the schools. He feels if parking was prohibited on Humboldt
Avenue it will discourage social contact with others denying them full use of their homes.
Mr. Cuskey showed on the map the traffic patterns and stated the traffic is coming from
Brooklyn Park. He added Brooklyn Park did make changes to reduce traffic in
neighborhoods through the use of cul -de -sacs. He added Humboldt Avenue has a speed,
limit of 30 mph but the police do not enforce it. He asked that police tag violators
immediately. He feels the elected officials need to stop the traffic. He is not asking for stop
signs and the only way to stop traffic is with a cul -de -sac or look at the option of opening
Xerxes. He does not want traffic around the school and Newton and Logan are the next
streets to have the same problems as Humboldt Avenue. He added he pays taxes and does
not deserve this treatment.
Gary Brown, Brooklyn Park City Engineer, explained what Brooklyn Park did with the cul-
de -sac on West River Road between 73rd and Brookdale Drive. He said this was done by
the request of the neighbors that the through traffic be stopped. He stated the traffic counts
were 600 cars per day and cannot really be compared to Humboldt Avenue. He is
concerned that chokers and diverters may cause the same problems the stop lights do. He
added Brooklyn Park put stop signs on Candlewood in response to residents request and
now the residents are complaining about the stop signs. He estimated 2000 cars turn right
on Humboldt Avenue from Brookdale Drive. He understands Brooklyn Park and Brooklyn
Center entered into an agreement to use a consulting engineer to evaluate the Zane Avenue
interchange. He is concerned about the traffic in front of the schools. He agreed
development in Brooklyn Park has caused increased traffic in Brooklyn Center on Humboldt
Avenue but Brooklyn Park residents also use the Humboldt Avenue shops. He summarized
there is a problem that needs to be addressed.
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Mayor Paulson thanked Mr. Brown for identifying himself as a representative from the City
of Brooklyn Park, a city that sends traffic into Brooklyn Center. He stated it was helpful
to hear Mr. Brown's comments. He asked Mr. Brown for some solutions rather than just
hearing what not to do.
Mr. Brown stated the reason TH 252 is the way it is is due to funding available. He
encouraged residents to contact the governor's office to request more funding for the
highway system. He stated Brooklyn Park will work with Brooklyn Center to work on the
Humboldt Avenue plans. He is concerned about changing the Comprehensive Plan because
people purchase homes based on traffic counts. He stated Humboldt Avenue needs to be
made safe for people trying to get out of their driveways. He stated what Brooklyn Park did
on West River Road cannot be compared to Humboldt Avenue because Humboldt serves
a much larger area.
Councilmember Rosene stated they are both residential areas. He said a percentage of cars
are just cutting through as they did on West River Road.
Councilmember Scott asked Mr. Brown if he agreed that 20% of traffic is coming from
Brooklyn Park and would he present to the Brooklyn Park City Council the suggestion of
restricting turns during rush hours. Mr. Brown stated he is unable to respond at this time
as he would want to look at the other impacts. Brooklyn Park is concerned about what will
happen at other streets. Councilmember Scott asked Mr. Brown if he was willing to
research and present to the Brooklyn Park City Council. Mr. Brown stated he would be.
Mayor Paulson stated Brooklyn Park is unique with its large blocks or land and having to
drive out of their way to get where they are going.
Tom Nystrom asked what Mr. Brown's idea was for 73rd Avenue N. Mr. Brown stated
Brooklyn Park recommends they enter into an agreement with Brooklyn Center to look at
73rd Avenue. He said some options are narrowing the width of the street and curvilinear
development.
Mr. Olsen stated as a member of the HARA he wants to thank Mr. Brown for his input.
He appreciates his candid responses. He added some members of HARA live in Brooklyn
Park. An upcoming project of HARA is to look at Meadowwood Drive. Mr. Olsen stated
Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park are neighbors and HARA will help Brooklyn Park with
their problems. He continued people who live on 73rd Avenue deserve a residential road
with residential traffic numbers. He stated Humboldt Avenue is stuck with the setbacks in
the area and they also deserve residential traffic. Mr. Olsen suggested an alternative route
for traffic be 70th Avenue off of TH 252 and it should be identified as a major traffic route.
Mr. Olsen feels they are closer now to getting a solution, but he has not heard anyone say
they are committed to diverting traffic out of the neighborhood.
Mayor Paulson agreed there has been some movement on sides and they are starting to
come together. He is encouraged by the process this evening. He stated the Council will
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not be taking action tonight and asked for Councilmembers reaction to what they have
heard. He stated he believes the Council needs to come up with a policy of what is the
overall objective. He supports the residents, the businesses, and the need for a
neighborhood level of traffic. He is willing to commit to diverting traffic from the
neighborhoods. He believes a consensus is being reached and the road should not become
a four -lane freeway. He supports stop sign placement and added pedestrian safety and
emergency access are very important. He asked staff to look at the option of having a
business access from 69th. He feels TH 252 is the biggest cause of the problem. He added
assessments are another issue to what level does the City use diverters or choker points.
Mayor Paulson asked staff to research this further.
Councilmember Rosene agreed with Mayor Paulson's comments. He believes a stop sign
on 73rd and Dupont would be a good idea. He asked if it was possible to construct a curb
higher than normal to prevent people from driving on lawns and turning around. The City
Engineer stated the curbs could be constructed 10 inches high. The City Manager added
one disadvantage to a high curb is if a car is low to the ground when parked on the street,
they may be unable to open the car door due to the curb. The City Engineer stated the
normal curb that is proposed would be a "B" curb which could be changed to a "V" type
curb. The curb could be constructed with various height.
Mr. Jensen stated he has lived in his house for 25 years and he would prefer to see
Humboldt Avenue closed.
Mr. Henzel, 1500 Amy Lane, added Humboldt Avenue is not an interstate or a County road.
Clifford Hill, 7037 Humboldt Avenue, suggested widening entrance from TH 252 on 69th
Avenue. He also suggested putting a road over Palmer Lake which would take care of the
Northwest traffic.
F Councilmember Scott thanked the residents for coming to the meeting and expressing their
concerns. She stated there is no easy solution for the problem. She added the Council will
do their best. The traffic did not develop overnight and will not go away overnight.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Councilmember Kalligher and seconded by Councilmember Rosene
to adjourn the meeting. The meeting adjourned at 10:25 p.m.
Deputy City Clerk Todd Paulson, Mayor
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