HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993 08-02 CCM Special Work Session MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY
OF HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
SPECIAL WORK SESSION
AUGUST 2, 1993
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER
The Brooklyn Center City Council met in special work session and was called to order by
Mayor Todd Paulson at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Todd Paulson, Councilmembers Celia Scott, Barb Kalligher and Kristen Mann.
Councilmember Dave Rosene was excused from tonight's meeting. Also present were
Director of Public Works Sy Knapp, Director of Community Development Brad Hoffman
and Council Secretary Debbie Wolfe.
STAFF REPORT REGARDING PARK & RIDE SITES
The Director of Public Works introduced representatives from MTC - Aaron Isaacs and
Scott Thompson, and representatives from Strgar- Roscoe - Fausch - Tim Phenow and Ferrol
Robinson; who will answer questions from the Council and assist with additional information
for the presentation.
The Director of Public Works reviewed for the Council a report providing responses to the
issues raised at the June 28, 1993, public hearing including analyses of optional locations
suggested at that hearing, a letter from Aaron Isaacs of the MTC, a letter from Mary A.
Olsen, a resident within the project area, and a traffic count and turning movement study
information as developed by Engineering staff.
Strgar- Roscoe - Fausch presented traffic analyses and several new plan layouts.
The Director of Public Works reported there were 16 issues raised by citizens who spoke
at the June 28, 1993, public hearing, along with staff comments as follows:
Issue No. 1 - What would be the tax impact of the Park and Ride facility? Why retire
taxable property?
Total Property Taxes
Paid in 1993
Storm Water Pond (6 properties) $ 10,659.72
Park & Ride Site (9 properties) 19,348.34
Total $ 30,008.06
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The Director of Public Works explained if only the storm water pond is built, staff assumes
the City needs to buy five homes and the four acre vacant parcel. If the Park and Ride
facility is also built, MTC would share in the costs of buying one of those five homes.
The Director of Public Works stated these properties are now in a transitional stage and
without government involvement, this area can be expected to continue to deteriorate over
an extended period of time. It is expected that any plan for redevelopment by private
developers would need to be subsidized by TIF or some other public funds. The decision
to "retire taxable property" is one which must sometimes be made when it is found to be the
most cost - effective way to provide a needed public facility.
Councilmember Kalligher questioned the number of properties that needed to be purchased.
The Director of Public Works responded five properties would have to be purchased by the
City and the remaining one property would be a joint purchase with MTC. Councilmember
Kalligher asked if MTC would pay for acquisition cost, relocation, and engineering costs
associated with the Park & Ride. The Director of Public Works responded MTC would
cover these costs.
Issue No. 2 - What will be the impact on property values for surrounding properties?
The Director of Public Works stated the answer will be the result of how carefully the
project is designed, constructed, and operated. MTC has requested the City to take the lead
to acquire the properties, develop plans, and supervise construction. The City will design
and build the facilities to be "good neighbors" with adjacent properties.
Councilmember Kalligher asked if the facility would be similar to the one on 69th Avenue.
The Director of Public Works said it would and a video tape is available for Council viewing,
this evening if they wish to see the type of site that would be constructed.
Issue No. 3 - Existing traffic problems on 65th Avenue (traffic volume, back -up from signals,
accidents, etc.)
The Director of Public Works reported during the week of July 19, 1993, traffic volume
counts were taken on 65th Avenue - just west of 65th Avenue and on 65th Avenue between
Marlin Drive and Indiana Avenue. He further reported the average daily traffic at these
locations was 3,564 and 3,404, respectively. Turning movement counts were also taken for
all vehicles making the eastbound approach to the Brooklyn Boulevard /65th Avenue signal
system during A.M. and P.M. peak hours. There was no stacking on 65th Avenue to
northbound Brooklyn Boulevard due to ramp buildup. All vehicles cleared intersection at
each cycle.
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Issue No. 4 - Traffic impacts (volume,congestion, safety, etc) of Park and Ride operation.
Ferrol Robinson from Strgar- Roscoe- Fausch (SRF) presented an analysis of the traffic
impacts as a result of the study conducted. Mr. Robinson stated 60% of the traffic is within
a one hour peak period in the morning and evening.
Councilmember Scott asked where the space for the extra turn lane would come from. The
Director of Public Works responded it is part of the plan developed with Hennepin County
and MTC. The Park & Ride facility would be moved slightly to make room for the extra
lane.
Councilmember Kalligher asked if there was a plan for an extra lane if the Park & Ride
facility was not built. The Director of Public Works responded Hennepin County may add
one in the future but the City would have to pay half the cost.
Councilmember Scott asked if the street was wide enough for buses to make the corner.
Aaron Isaacs from MTC stated the location of the proposed Park & Ride facility allows
enough space for buses to make the turns. He added MTC does not try to put its drivers
in difficult positions.
Issue No. 5 - Because of high traffic volumes "...Brooklyn Blvd is not the right place for
single family homes..." (noting safety problems, air pollution, noise levels, etc.).
The Director of Public Works asserted alternative full development based on existing zoning
would create more traffic, congestion, air pollution, and noise than the proposed Park and
Ride facility.
Issue No. 6 - If Park and Ride is "too successful" the overflow could cause a new set of
problems.
The Director of Public Works stated while it is possible that the demand for Park and Ride
parking spaces may exceed the capacity of the lot, Park and Ride patrons are "repeat
customers" who are fully aware of conditions on a day to day basis. He added as one facility
becomes filled up, patrons find other options so this would be a self-monitoring /self-
controlling issue.
Councilmember Kalligher asked if patrons would be allowed to park on City streets if the
lot was full. The Director of Public Works responded with the six hour parking restrictions
it would not work for most patrons to park on the street and they would probably stop
parking on the street if they are given one ticket.
Issue No. 7- Various questions regarding bus traffic patterns: i.e. the ability of MTC buses
to maneuver through the proposed facility, to turn onto 65th Avenue, delays through the
65th Avenue/Brooklyn Boulevard intersection and onto the HOV ramp.
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The Director of Public Works pointed out MTC and SRF have a great deal of experience
in developing plans for Park & Ride facilities and MTC staff is confident this plan will work
well. He added Hennepin County Public Works staff has advised they are able to reprogram
signals to give higher priority to approaches where buses from Park & Ride facilities enter.
Regarding the ability of buses to enter the HOV ramp, the Director of Public Works stated
some minor geometric changes were (and are) included in the proposed design layout, and
will be completed by HcDOT or MnDOT if this proposed facility is built.
Issue No. 8 - Size of Park and Ride facility (i.e. 200 -235 spaces).
The Director of Public Works explained MTC would prefer a plan with 235 spaces, but
states their minimum need is for 200 spaces.
Issue No. 9 - Possible increase in crime, vandalism, etc. (Note: the speaker assumed that the
Park and Ride facility would be so heavily screened from Brooklyn Boulevard, that it could
not be seen or monitored from Brooklyn Boulevard).
The Public Works Director noted plan modifications have been made to assure the proposed
facility can be seen and monitored from Brooklyn Boulevard. Brooklyn Park Police Chief
Don Davis and Director of Service Dave Johnson reported they have experienced very few
problems with crime or vandalism at the two Park & Ride facilities in Brooklyn Park.
Councilmember Kalligher asked if there would be a public phone at the Park & Ride lot and
Aaron Isaacs responded MTC always tries to put a public phone in Park & Ride lots.
Issue No. 10 - What assurance do citizens have that plantings and landscape berms will
actually be completed and that they will be properly maintained?
The Director of Public Works stated the City will have an opportunity to assure proper
design and supervise construction. He pointed out MTC has established a record for high -
level maintenance of their facilities.
Councilmember Kalligher suggested photographs be provided at the next public hearing to
show residents what the proposed project would look like.
Issue No. 11 - Objections to possible commercial use (for convenience store - or daycare
facility) on the Park & Ride site.
The Director of Public Works explained no decisions on commercial use have been made
and MTC favors this concept because it could provide services to MTC patrons and to the
neighborhood, provide revenue to help pay the costs for maintaining the facility, provide
some level" of on -site monitoring and has the possibility of having the tenant provide
maintenance, snow plowing, sweeping, etc. services.
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Councilmember Scott asked about the commercial use. She stated if it was acceptable to
the Council it would be nice to have a commercial use included such as a daycare center.
She believes a daycare center would be better than any other type of use.
The Community Development Director stated the decision for commercial use would have
to be made prior to construction.
Aaron Isaacs stated MTC is in favor of a daycare center and MTC would consider a price
reduction on the land.
Councilmember Scott added there is a shortage of daycare available in the northern suburbs
and this would be a good location.
Issue No. 12 - Previous request (15 years ago) for stop signs at 65th /Indiana was denied.
The Director of Public Works reported the traffic counts do not justify a stop sign.
Councilmember Kalligher added possibly a stop sign could be used as a bargaining issue in
this area.
Issue No. 13 - House(s) on 65th Avenue have been hit by vehicles.
The Director of Public Works stated the City has not been able to get details on this
accident(s).
Issue No. 14 - Alternate site suggestions.
The Director of Public Works stated five other sites were suggested by residents but the
proposed site was found to be most acceptable by MTC and City staff.
Issue No. 15 - Notices were sent only to those property owners within 300 feet of the
proposed site.
The Director of Public Works explained the City's policy concerning codes and ordinances
for proposed zoning code amendments, site plan approval, etc. was followed for notification
of residents. He added in the future those residents who signed the petition, or who spoke
and identified themselves at the public hearing will also be added to the notification list.
Mayor Paulson requested notice of the public hearing also be put in the newspaper.
Issue No. 16 - Need for a timely decision.
The Director of Public Works stated staff agrees a decision should be made as soon as
possible so property owners and tenants know what their status is, and the City and MTC
can schedule the implementation plan. He added MTC would like completion by 1994.
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The Director of Public Works stated staff would like Council direction to hold another
public informational meeting to present residents with updated information and answer any
questions. He suggested holding the meeting sometime in August as more meetings may
have to be scheduled.
Councilmember Scott suggested staff have good plans to show the residents so they can get
a good idea of what the Park & Ride site will actually look like.
The Council agreed to have staff . ut this item on the agenda for the next Council meeting.
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BROOKLYN BOULEVARD TASK FORCE
The Community Development Director presented the need to discuss the appointment of
a task force to work with BRW in the formulation of a streetscape plan for Brooklyn
Boulevard. The proposal suggests a very short process. Staff suggests makeup of the task
force include up to fifteen members. He stated members should be concerned with the
northern part of Brooklyn Boulevard as well as the southern part and a good representation
of business and residents should be included in the task force. He added staff proposes the
following schedule for Council consideration:
1. Interested parties would submit their names by Thursday, August 12.
2. On Thursday evening, staff would prepare a list of all interested parties and submit
a recommendation for Council consideration.
3. On Monday, August 16, the Council would discuss and appoint the task force (or at
least a majority of the force) so work could proceed.
4. There would be a joint meeting with the Council, the task force, the Planning
Commission, staff and BRW on the evening of August 18.
The Community Development Director stated staff recommends the following individuals
be considered:
Dr. Duane Orn Northstar Dodge Representative
Frank Slawson Larry Marofsky
Lee Cook, Jr. Janis Blumenthals
Dave Nelson Randy Rau
Phyllis Plummer Bonnie Engler
Bill Bartram Iten ChevroletBrookdale Pontiac
The Council discussed this recommendation along with the list of current Brooklyn
Boulevard Study Task Force Members and directed staff to contact the following individuals
and determine their interest.
Dr. Duane Orn Bonnie Engler
Frank Slawson Dr. Munson
Lee Cook, Jr. Diane Reem
Dave Nelson Mark Holmes
Phyllis Plummer Robert Mickelson
Northstar Dodge Representative Janis Blumenthals
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Councilmember Kalligher stated Brooklyn Park has already formed their Brooklyn
Boulevard Task Force.
Councilmember Mann stated anyone listed would be an excellent choice.
Mayor Paulson added it should also be open to the public to see if anyone else is interested
and possibly those interested could apply over the telephone with City staff so appointments
could be made by August 16.
The Community Development Director stated August 18 is the date for the proposed
meeting with the Planning Commission, City Council, staff, BRW, and the newly formed
Task Force. He asked for Council approval that if anyone on the list shows interest they
will be appointed to the task force.
Councilmember Scott suggested Commissioners Reem, Holmes, and Mickelson be the
representatives from the Planning Commission.
Council consensus was reached to direct staff to contact those listed and bring back the list
of those interested to the next meeting for Council appointment.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Councilmember Kalligher and seconded by Councilmember Scott to
adjourn the meeting. The motion passed unanimously. The Brooklyn Center City Council
work session adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Deputy City Clerk Todd Paulson, Mayor
Recorded and transcribed by:
Debbie Wolfe
Timesaver Off Site Secretarial
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