HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010 11-08 CCM Study Session MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY
OF HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
STUDY SESSION
NOVEMBER 8, 2010
CITY HALL — COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER
The Brooklyn Center City Council met in Study Session called to order by Mayor Tim Willson
at 6:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Tim Willson and Councilmembers Kay Lasman, Tim Roche, Dan Ryan, and Mark
Yelich. Also present were City Manager Curt Boganey, Public Works Director /City Engineer
Steve Lillehaug, Director of Business and Development Gary Eitel, Police Chief Kevin Benner,
Assistant City Manager /Director of Building and Community Standards Vickie Schleuning, and
Carla Wirth, TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF AGENDA ITEMS AND QUESTIONS
Councilmember Ryan referenced page 2 of the October 25, 2010, Work Session meeting
minutes, regarding the discussion on a graduated sanitary utility rate. He asked whether it was
the consensus of the Council to not ask staff for a range of options that included a billing system
that was weighted more in the direction of fixed cost. City Manager Curt Boganey recalled that
during that discussion, there had been a strong consensus from a majority of Councilmembers
that staff would report on a model based upon the consultant's analysis which weighted the cost
more toward consumption rather than fixed cost. Councilmember Ryan stated that while he
remained concerned about the impact to a certain set of households, he would accept the will of
the Council and accept the minutes as written.
MISCELLANEOUS
Councilmember Lasman questioned the location of the petroleum site investigation. Mr.
Boganey advised that the investigation was in the circular area in front of City Hall.
Councilmember Lasman asked for an update on the DEED letter. Mr. Boganey explained there
was nothing in addition to the letter received and staff will continue to monitor the potential of
an on -going impact. Mayor Willson commended staff for following up on the DEED matter
because it was not a sanctioned e -mail by DEED, its department, or administration.
Councilmember Lasman referenced an out -of -state mailing she had received regarding a "call
assurance program" and asked if a similar program was still available in Brooklyn Center for
seniors to register and receive a telephone call. Mr. Boganey stated he is not aware of such an
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ongoing City program. Police Chief Kevin Benner advised there used to be a TAP program but
it had been canceled in 1998 due to staffing issues.
Councilmember Roche reported that he noticed large limestone pieces at the intersection of
Shingle Creek Parkway and Freeway Boulevard, replicating the limestone pieces on Bass Lake
Road. He stated it looks very nice.
Councilmember Roche stated he had received a call from a Liberian who handles public relations
for Bridgestone and is interested in an outreach with Brooklyn Center. He stated this may be an
opportunity since the City has a large Liberian community. Councilmember Yelich noted an
upcoming Work Session topic is for a Sister City Update and that would be the appropriate time
to bring up this option.
DISCUSSION OF WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEMS AS TIME PERMITS
FIREHOUSE PARK UPDATE
Mr. Boganey referenced the report by Police Commander Tim Gannon indicating that calls for
service to Firehouse Park since the reinstallation of a single basketball hoop on June 29, 2010,
has shown no significant increase in police calls to the Park. He reviewed the calls received and
noted that Mr. Gannon recommended the single basketball hoop remain in place.
Councilmember Ryan stated he had heard from residents in the immediate area of the Firehouse
Park, especially residents along Bryant Avenue that face the park. He had explained to them that
there had been no serious incidents since reinstallation of the single basketball hoop but those
residents believe the problems remain and it may take time for them to accept what the data
shows, that problems have not returned. Councilmember Ryan stated several residents in the
closest proximity also think there is a noise issue. In deference to those residents, he had asked
the Council to consider asking the Park and Recreation Commission to review the location of the
basketball court and make a recommendation on perhaps relocating the basketball court.
Mayor Willson noted the report shows a high commitment by the Police Department to check on
the park and assure continued awareness. Given this report, which is quite favorable, he did not
see where there was an issue that showed the basketball court should be removed. He noted the
Park and Recreation Commission had supported a full basketball court with two hoops instead of
the half court that was reinstalled.
Councilmember Ryan stated he was also struck by the outstanding efforts and commitment by
staff and the Police Department to monitor what had been a difficult condition to assure restoring
the hoop did not return the issues. He stated he wanted to represent the comments and concerns
expressed directly to him by residents who lived in close proximity to the basketball hoop.
Councilmember Roche stated his agreement with Councilmember Ryan's assessment and he also
appreciates the efforts by staff and the Police Department. He referenced the calls made and
suggested the people who live north of that resident had given up. Councilmember Roche
suggested that a resident of this neighborhood act as a liaison to the Parks and Recreation
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Commission, which would also provide a fresh perspective. He believed that housing prices
were depressed because of the location of the basketball hoops and that the Council had a
responsibility to be forward looking. Councilmember Roche stated he believed the basketball
court was in the wrong location and suggested grant opportunities be researched to relocate the
basketball court.
Councilmember Yelich reiterated sentiments that residents along the streets bordering Firehouse
Park still resent having to endure the past problems. He agreed with Councilmember Roche that
some have given up in anger. Regarding the Park and Recreation Commission, he noted their
perspective is that basketball players prefer a court with two hoops and it is the City's job to
provide recreational facilities that people enjoy. Councilmember Yelich stated the Police
Department is good at minimizing problems through environmental design, which is consistent
with the notion of relocating the hoops to the other side of the park that is bordered by the school
and Fire Department without much of a residential impact. He stated it may not be possible to
do this quickly due to financial limitations but as the Capital Improvement Program proceeds, it
could be considered when that equipment comes up for maintenance. In addition, it would be
less costly for the City to relocate the basketball court if it resulted in responding to fewer
complaints.
Mayor Willson stated there is a majority consensus of the Council to refer this matter to the Park
and Recreation Commission to consider the location of the basketball court and make a
recommendation if there is a more environmentally friendly location.
The Council discussed whether the Park and Recreation Commission should also consider
whether two basketball hoops should be relocated or just the present single hoop. Mr. Boganey
noted another option would be to consider a "kiddy court" that is designed for younger people. It
was agreed that the Commission's recommendation should include all options but that the
Council would be reluctant to return to the conditions that resulted in removal of one hoop.
GARBAGE HAULER REPORT
Director of Public Works /City Engineer Steve Lillehaug reviewed that at its March 8, 2010,
Work Session, the Council had directed staff to review and report on the City's private "open"
garbage collection. He presented staff's report that addressed the effects of garbage trucks on
public infrastructure and environment, including air and noise pollution, and public safety. It
was noted that the impact of garbage trucks is factored into the design of the City's pavement
projects. With regard to potential cost savings with an organized system, Mr. Lillehaug pointed
out that Brooklyn Center's residents already receive competitive rates. He presented advantages
versus disadvantages for both an open and organized garbage collection and advised that his
research revealed many communities have studied this matter and many stayed with an open
system.
Mr. Lillehaug advised that oftentimes advocacy groups become involved when a city is
considering going to an organized system and the process becomes contentious. These advocacy
groups are well - organized and contest many of the facts cited by the MPCA related to
environmental impacts. He noted another program that may be a balance between open and
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organized systems would be a neighborhood collection system where residents within a
neighborhood solicit rates from garbage haulers. This would be a voluntary program so it would
require an active group and cooperation between neighbors.
Mr. Lillehaug explained that if the City is interested in an organized system there are Minnesota
statutory requirements with public notification. In addition, carriers would become involved in
the process, which could become contentious. He requested Council direction on policy and a
determination of whether it would make a real difference to the quality of life, environment, and
infrastructure if fewer garbage trucks were on City streets through an organized collection
system.
Councilmember Yelich asked if it would be possible to determine a dollar figure that could be
attributed to each incremental hauler in terms of wear and tear on the City's roadways. He noted
that out -of- pocket costs register with residents, such as service costs, but residents don't know
about infrastructure costs so if that could be more clear, it may provide enlightenment to
residents and the City. Mr. Lillehaug stated some studies address that issue but are not too
comprehensive. Also, a local Minnesota research board is developing a spreadsheet to address
infrastructure impacts resulting from significant heavy trucks and equipment.
ADJOURN STUDY SESSION TO INFORMAL OPEN FORUM WITH CITY COUNCIL
Councilmember Lasman moved and Councilmember Ryan seconded to close the Study Session
at 6:45 p.m.
Motion passed unanimously.
RECONVENE STUDY SESSION
Councilmember Roche moved and Councilmember Yelich seconded to reconvene the Study
Session at 6:47 p.m.
Motion passed unanimously.
GARBAGE HAULER REPORT - CONTINUED
The discussion continued on the garbage hauler report. Councilmember Yelich noted in addition
to having fewer garbage trucks, there is also the issue of increased litter with more trucks.
Councilmember Lasman stated this is not the first time this issue has come up. She stated she
understands the cost to maintain roadways due to heavy vehicles but felt there was still a small
percentage who think that issue outweighs their ability to select their own hauler.
Councilmember Lasman stated if she could see proof of lower costs and better service to
residents, she would support looking at an organized collection. However, currently the rates for
an organized collection system don't compare because she pays less than what an organized rate
would be. She stated she thinks there would be environmental benefits but the Council serves
the people and needs to be assured residents would receive a better service than they already
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have at a lower cost.
Mayor Willson concurred with Councilmember Lasman and noted that organized collection
would result in government control and felt the last election showed that voters like the ability to
make their own decisions. Mayor Willson agreed there would be environmental and
infrastructure benefits, but doubted residents would support going with an organized and
government- controlled garbage collection service.
Councilmember Ryan asked whether an organized collection system would offer the City's
residents a better service than they currently have. He stated he was skeptical it could be offered
at a lower cost, explaining that he has a smaller trash bin because of a two - person household, a
lower rate, and free lawn waste removal through November. Councilmember Ryan stated he saw
a solicitor going door -to -door asking if they would be interested in lower garbage rates, which
indicates effort by haulers to be more competitive. With regard to an organized neighborhood
collection, he felt it may be a problematic model due to turnover an/or contrarian residents, and
questioned how it would be implemented. Mr. Lillehaug clarified that the neighborhood
organization would be strictly voluntary.
Councilmember Roche took exception to an indication that the MPCA statistics were not
accurate, noting MPCA data had been considered accurate by the City for the Logan project. He
read the policy issues and indicated he does think that organized collection would make a
positive difference in Brooklyn Center's quality of life, the environment, community
infrastructure, public safety, and would align with the Council's strategic goals and green
community initiatives. Councilmember Roche stated he was elected to lead, even when making
a difficult decision, and believes reducing the number of trucks on residential streets would
prolong the City's infrastructure, which would be beneficial to the City and residents who pay
for that infrastructure. He suggested that it is a failure of political leadership if the Council fails
to execute this option.
ADJOURNMENT
Councilmember Lasman moved and Councilmember Roche seconded to close the Study Session
at 7:00 p.m.
Motion passed unanimously.
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STATE OF MINNESOTA)
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN) ss. Certification of Minutes
CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER)
The undersigned, being the duly qualified and appointed City Clerk of the City of Brooklyn
Center, Minnesota, certifies:
1. That attached hereto is a full, true, and complete transcript of the minutes of a Study
Session of the City Council of the City of Brooklyn Center held on November 8, 2010.
2. That said meeting was held pursuant to due call and notice thereof and was duly held at
Brooklyn Center City Hall.
3. That the City Council adopted said minutes at its November 22, 2010, Regular Session.
City Clerk Mayor
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