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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969 05-28 CCM Special Session with Citizens Architectural Advisory Committee I Minutes of the Proceedings of the City Council of the City of Brooklyn Center In the County of Hennepin and State of Minnesota May 28, 1969 The City Council met in special session and was called to order by Mayor Philip Cohen at 7 :39 P. M. Roll Call.- Philip Cohen, John Leary, Earl Rydberg, Howard Heck and Theodore Willard. Also present were: D. G. Poss., Gene Hagel, and B.E. Peterson. Members of CAAC present were: Gordon Erickson, Neil Smeaton, Verlin Atkins, Robert Jensen and Ed Theisen. Absent members of CAAC were: Robert Larson.. and Gilbert Engdahl. This fifth special meeting of the Brooklyn Center City Council and the Citizens Architectural Advisory Committee (CAAC) and the firm of Cerny Associates, Inc was conducted for the purpose of reviewing the preliminary drawings and table model of the East Side Fire Station and to review and approve final schematic drawings of the Civic Center. The City Manager presented the Council and CAAC with an updated record of progress on the Capital Improvements Program. He then called upon the representatives of Cerny Associates, Inc. to present to the Council and CAAC the preliminary plans and model for the East Side Fire Station.. Robert Pierce, Cerny representative, described to the Council and CAAC the floor plan layouts of both the lower and upper level indicating the functional relationships on each level. Councilman Willard requested Mr. Pierce to point out and explain the difference and changes between the approved schematic drawing and the present preliminary drawing. Mr. Pierce indicated the changes to the Council and CAAC and then asked for questions. CAAC member Robert Jensen asked if the occupant of the watch room would be able to see out onto the corner of 65th & Dupont Avenues. Cerny representatives responded that with the exception of the west bound traffic there would be adequate visibility, Councilman Willard commented that it appeared that there was more than 30% excess space in the apparatus room. The City Manager said that the extra space would be used for mechanical repairs and extra equipment which the Fire Department personnel foresee in the future. Cerny representatives next presented to the Council and CAAC exterior elevations and the model of the East Side Fire Station pointing out that basically It is a two story building with a brick exterior and a limited amount of glass area. At this time Mayor Cohen asked Cerny Associates to pay particular design note to the slot windows which he found somewhat unattractive. Councilman Heck concurred with Mayor Cohen's request. The City Manager responded to the Council and CAAC stating that Mayor Cohen's and Howard Heck's comments would be duly noted and studied by Cerny Associates. CAAC member Gordon Erickson stated his concurrence with the slot windows and the general design and complimented Cerny Associates for an overall commendable job. Motion by Howard Heck and seconded by Theodore Willard to approve the preliminary drawings of the East Side Fire Station. Voting in favor were; Philip Cohen, John Leary, Earl Rydberg, Howard Heck and Theodore Willard. Voting against were: none. Motion carried unanimously, Mayor Cohen asked Cerny Associates to comment on when bids could be let for the East Side Fire Station. Robert Pierce of Cerny Associates suggested that the East Side Fire Station and the Municipal Service Building be considered as a "package" and that bids could possibly be let out during July, _1_ The City Manager next introduced the subject of the Civic Center schematic drawings, stating that several modifications had been developed, analyzed,- and discarded since the last Civic Center schematic review on April 10, 1969. He stated that the current drawings represented a studied refinement of the initial concept. Representatives of Cerny Associates explained the site plan layout of the Civic Center in relation to Palmer Lake Park, Shingle Creek greenstrip and Central Park. The City Manager pointed out that City Hall parking would be recessed and would not be directly within the vista from Shingle Creek Parkway. Following this there was an extensive discussion among Council and CAAC relating to drainage, and the relocation of Shingle Creek. Concern was expressed by Robert Jensen regarding the single access point to the Civic Center and its ability to handle the possible traffic generation. The City Manager stated that the matter would be studied. Cerny Associates next presented the schematic of the upper level of City Hall explaining the functional relationship among the Council Chambers and Administrative Offices. Cerny Associates next explained the functional relationships of the lower level police offices. The City Manager explained to the Council and CAAC how the police would process (book) a prisoner and the various rooms used in this process. Councilman Heck explored the matter of how handicapped individuals would be able to enter the police station and it was determined that there were sufficient lower level entrances to provide access for the handicapped. The meeting recessed at 9 :00 P. M. and resumed at 9 :18 P.M. At this time Cerny representatives explained the upper level of the social hall and swimming pool to the Council and CAAC pointing out the layout of the teenage lounge and the glass wall space allotted for viewing the swimming pool. Discussion ensued among members of the Council and CAAC with no major reservations stated as to the layout of the upper level of the Community Civic Center. Representatives of Cerny Associates next explained the layout of the lower level of the Community Center (Social Hall) explaining that the exercise room which was heretofore on the upper level was brought to the lower floor, in addition, provision had been provided for a spectator area in the pool room overlooking a wading pool and the swimming pool. Councilman Heck asked if the provisions for spectator arrangement on the same level as the swimming pool meets the State requirements. Robert Pierce responded that at this time the technical requirements relating to the swimming pool and seating of spectators appeared to meet State requirements. However, modifications would be made if present requirements do not meet the State Law. CAAC member Gordon Erickson asked if Cerny Associates had considered how to handle the reflection of the sun on the swimming pool. Park and Recreation Director Eugene Hagel commented that it is important that the sun's reflection be diffused in order to prevent blind spots when observing the activity in the pool. Robert Pierce agreed to give more study to the sun's angle on the pool Pierce next explained to the Council and CAAC the lower level of the social hall, pointing out the amount of patio space that would be wrapped around the entire community center. At this time (9 :37 P. M.) Mayor Cohen left the Chair and Mayor Pro-tem Howard Heck assumed the Chair. Mayor Pro -tem Heck asked where the placement of the kitchen would be in the social hall. Cerny representatives pointed out that the kitchen would be tucked under the stairway used to get to the upper level of the building. Discussion ensued among Council, CAAC and Cerny Associates as to the layout and multiple use of the social hall. CAAC member Ed Theisen questioned the usefulness of a stage in the social hall, whether or not it was needed. -2- Brief discussion followed over whether or not there should be room for a projection booth. It was the consensus of the Council and CAAC that a separate room for a projection booth would not be needed. The Park Director and City Manager responded that once the stage facilities had been constructed that they definitely would be used. CAAC member Neil Smeaton questioned the utility of a sauna and he stated that some of his contacts thought it was ostentatious. The City Manager responded to Smeaton's remarks stating that the sauna is primarily for adults, and that the cost of installing the sauna is comparatively small. mayor Pro-tem Heck asked how many people could be seated in a sauna and was answered that 15 people could be accomodated at one time. At this time Councilman Willard asked that the Council and CAAC to consider use of the social hall for roller skating. Cerny representative responded that although the size of the social hall seemed to mitigate against, no real research had been done on using the social hall for roller skating. CAAC member Gordon Erickson commented adversely to the concept of roller skating In the social hall. The City Manager commented that Wiliard`s concern will be studied. At this time (10 :07 P. M.) Mayor Cohen returned to the meeting. Motion by Theodore Willard and seconded by Earl Rydberg to approve the schematic drawings for the Civic Center. Voting in favor were: Philip Cohen, John Leary, Earl Rydberg, Howare Heck and Theodore Willard. Voting against were: none. Motion carried unanimously. Motion by Philip Cohen and seconded by John Leary to adjourn the meeting. Voting in favor were: Philip Cohen, john Leary, Earl Rydberg, Howard Heck and Theodore Willard. Voting against were: none. Motion carried unanimously. The Council meeting adjourned at 10 :08 P. M. Cl k Mayor -3-