HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992 05-28 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF
HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
MAY 28, 1992
STUDY SESSION
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission met in study session and was called to
order by Chairperson Barbara Kalligher at 7 : 33 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairperson Barbara Kalligher, Commissioners Ella Sander, Wallace
Bernards and Kristen Mann. Also present were Director of Planning
and Inspection Ronald Warren and Planner Gary Shallcross.
Chairperson Kalligher noted that Commissioner Johnson was excused
in light of recent surgery.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - May 14 , 1992
Motion by Commissioner Bernards seconded by Commissioner Mann to
approve the minutes of the May 14, 1992 Planning Commission meeting
as submitted. Voting in favor: Chairperson Kalligher,
Commissioners Sander, Bernards and Mann. Voting against: none.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
a. Group Home Ordinance
The Secretary introduced the first discussion item of the meeting,
a draft Group Home Ordinance or Residential Facilities Ordinance
that he passed out to the Commissioners at the meeting. He stated
that it followed the definitions in the State Statute regarding
Residential Facilities.
Commissioner Holmes arrived at 7 : 36 p.m.
The Secretary stated that in a single family zone, residential
programs with six or fewer clients, nonresidential programs with
twelve or fewer clients, licensed day care with 12 or fewer clients
and group family day care with 14 or fewer children would be
allowed as permitted uses. He stated that in the multiple zone,
which applies to zones R2 through R7, nursing homes would be left
in and other residential facilities would be permitted with up to
16 clients. He stated there would be no special use permits for
residential facilities. He stated that the ordinance in essence
accepts the mandates of State Statute and nothing more. In the Cl
zone, the Secretary noted that residential facilities would be
eliminated. He stated that in the C2 zone, nursing homes would be
added to the category that also allows hospitals. He then reviewed
the definitions for day care facility, dwellings both attached and
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detached, hospital, nursing home, nonresidential program, and
residential program. He stated that he recommended against
adopting any institutional zones at this time, noting that the City
Attorney had advised against this kind of provision.
Commissioner Mann asked whether miniprisons would be considered
residential programs. The Secretary stated that if they were
licensed by the Department of Human Services (which they are not) ,
then they could be allowed in a residential district. The
Secretary reviewed the definition of a residential program in State
Statute. He stated that if such a facility is licensed as a
residential program, then it would be allowed. Commissioner
Bernards stated that he felt that. the ordinance was overly verbose.
He asked why it was necessary to recite the State Statute in each
of these cases. The Secretary stated that it could be changed or
simplified if that was desired. He explained that each of the
categories listed had different numbers of clients allowed and were
mandated by State Statute. He added that he preferred having some
type of listing in the Zoning Ordinance even if it was only a
repeat of State Statute. Commissioner Bernards stated that the
State may change the number of clients that are mandated. The
Secretary stated that it would be fairly simple to modify the
ordinance if that happens. Commissioner Bernards noted that the
ordinance does not really address the question of density. He
asked if the City was powerless regarding that point. The
Secretary answered in the affirmative. Commissioner Bernards asked
about the possibility of having one right next door to another.
The Secretary stated that State Statute limits the location of
residential programs, establishing distance requirements between
them.
Commissioner Mann asked whether the ordinance addressed day care in
commercial zones. The Secretary stated that it was not really
addressed in this ordinance, though it would be discussed later in
the meeting. He stated that the residential facilities ordinance
only addresses day care in residential zones. Commissioner Holmes
asked whether the number of 16 or fewer in residential facilities
included staff. The Secretary answered that staff people would be
separate, that the 16 refers to clients only. In response to a
question from Commissioner Holmes regarding eliminating boarding
care homes, etc. , the Secretary answered that that provision had
allowed residential facilities as a special use in the R4 and R5
zones and had been the provision used to acknowledge Northwest
Residence and Bill Kelly House as special uses. Commissioner
Holmes asked how many clients the Bill Kelly House would be allowed
to have if the new ordinance were in effect. The Secretary
answered that they could not have more than 16 clients.
Commissioner Mann stated that she was somewhat reluctant to do away
with the special use permit process. The Secretary explained that
the State mandates 16 clients. He added that the draft ordinance
would limit residential facilities to 16 clients. He stated that
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there is really nothing to argue about regarding facilities with 16
or fewer clients since they are mandated anyway. Commissioner
Bernards asked if it was the case that the City would not consider
facilities with over 16 clients under this ordinance. The
Secretary responded in the affirmative. He stated that the State
mandates certain numbers and that the City would accept those
numbers and that's all. Commissioner Mann stated that residential
facilities might turn out to be good neighbors. The Secretary
agreed stating that he often has received calls of concern when
such facilities are first proposed in a neighborhood, but after
they are established, there are generally very few complaints.
Commissioner Bernards stated that, having been on the Planning
Commission when the Bill Kelly House was considered, he agreed that
the special use permit process was a problem for the City. He
stated that he endorsed the approach in the draft ordinance. The
Secretary noted that the City has suffered from lawsuits relating
to a couple of group homes. Commissioner Mann asked whether any
other communities have taken this route. The Secretary stated that
he didn't know of any offhand, but he thought that other
communities have dealt with this issue in their ordinances. He
stated that there are some properties in town where such facilities
might locate and added that they have generally been good
neighbors. Commissioners Bernards and Mann both stated that they
liked the draft ordinance after further explanation.
ACTION RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REGARDING
RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES
Motion by Commissioner Mann seconded by Commissioner Holmes to
recommend to the City Council the adoption of an ordinance
amendment relating to residential facilities.
Voting in favor: Chairperson Kalligher, Commissioners Sander,
Bernards, Mann and Holmes. Voting against: none. The motion
passed.
b. Day Care Facilities in Retail Shopping Centers
The Secretary then referred the Commission's attention to a memo
that he had drafted relating to day care facilities in retail
shopping centers and to other material relating to the development
of the commercial day care ordinance. He also noted a letter that
had been submitted by Weis Asset Management, Inc. , the owners of
Humboldt Square Shopping Center. He reviewed the background of the
New Horizon application in 1984 which led to the ordinance
amendment regulating day care in commercial zones. He stated that
at that time some concern had been expressed regarding the outside
play areas and that some detailed regulations regarding these play
areas had been included in the ordinance. He noted that later the
City allowed drop in centers to be located in shopping centers
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although day care centers were not allowed in shopping centers. He
also noted that drop in centers did not require outside play areas.
The Secretary went on to explain a proposal for a day care center
in the Humboldt Square Shopping Center. He stated that it might be
classified as a drop in center which would be allowed without any
problems. He stated that if it is a day care center, the ordinance
states that it cannot be in a shopping center, nor can it be
adjacent to a gas station. He stated that the proposed day care
center for Humboldt Square might be able to meet the play area
requirements and that the City may want to look at the restrictions
in the ordinance on the location of day care centers.
Commissioner Mann asked whether the existing ordinance would allow
a day care center for Target employees at Target. The Secretary
answered that if it was in a shopping center, it would not be
allowed. Commissioner Holmes asked about the possibility of
holding classes. The Secretary answered that educational uses are
acceptable in shopping centers. He stated that if the proposal can
be considered a drop in center or an educational use, then it could
be allowed in that location. Commissioner Bernards stated that he
might be more open minded about this issue if he visited one of the
day care centers located in a shopping center. He stated that as
of now he is concerned with this possibility. He asked whether the
City might be held liable if some accident occurred in a location
like this. The Secretary answered that the City can always get
sued when accidents occur in Brooklyn Center. He stated that it is
important to look at whether the regulations in the zoning
ordinance are really land use and zoning related or whether they
should be considered as part of the state regulations for
licensing. There followed a discussion regarding Humboldt Square
and day care centers generally, what would be good for Humboldt
Square and what kinds of zoning concerns there are regarding day
care. Commissioner Sander asked whether Humboldt Square could
afford to lose- the parking where the play area would be. The
Secretary answered that they have some surplus because of the
change in the retail parking formula. Commissioner Mann stated
that she was not sure it would be appropriate to have a day care
center next to a gas station. The Secretary asked whether the
City's regulations are properly zoning regulations or whether they
get into licensing criteria. He noted that the City regulates
location and the play area. He stated that any regulation has some
impact.
Commissioner Holmes left at 9 : 12 p.m.
The Secretary went on to say that regulations have to be reasonable
and that the City may want to rethink some of the restrictions
applying to these day care centers.
Commissioner Holmes returned at 9: 16 p.m.
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Commissioner Mann suggested that it might be appropriate to have a
field trip and stated that she still had concerns regarding day
care in shopping centers. Commissioner Holmes stated that it was
probably necessary to make some changes to the ordinance, but he
was not sure what changes to make yet. Commissioner Sander stated
that she liked the existing restrictions on the play area.
C. Real Estate Sign Ordinance
The Secretary then introduced a brief discussion of the real estate
sign ordinance that was adopted by the City Council last year. He
stated that the ordinance presently in effect sunsets this summer
unless it is readopted. He stated that the City can leave that
ordinance as is, go back to the old ordinance, or develop a new
ordinance. Commissioner Mann expressed some concern about such
signs being temporary rather than continuing indefinitely. The
Planner stated that a simple ordinance would be easier to enforce.
He stated that an ordinance that required signs to be taken down
every six months to a year would perhaps need a code enforcement
officer to enforce. He stated that it would probably be necessary
to have a permit for such signs if the ordinance is more complex.
The Secretary stated that the City could certainly have whatever
regulations it wants regarding such signs. He stated that a permit
would help the staff enforce more complex ordinances. He stated
that real estate signs are temporary because at some point they
must come down. He also stated that Brooklyn Center has
traditionally enforced its sign ordinance more than many
communities. The Secretary added that the City Council had also
had a concern about such signs being temporary and had debated
whether it was more appropriate to have such signs be freestanding
or wall signs.
d. Moratorium on Home Occupations on Brooklyn Boulevard
The Secretary reviewed with the Planning Commission the action on
the home occupation at 6136 Brooklyn Boulevard submitted by Nhia
Thao. He stated that the City Council had suggested it might be
appropriate to have a moratorium on such home occupations until the
Brooklyn Boulevard Study was completed. He stated that the staff
can draft an ordinance regarding such a moratorium and bring it
back for the next meeting. The Planning Commission by consensus
agreed that such an ordinance would be appropriate.
Commissioner Bernards stated that he would not be at the June 11
meeting. The Secretary briefly referred the Commission to a letter
from the Chamber of Commerce.
Commissioner Mann noted that a group home was being looked at for
a site south of the Joslyn property. The Secretary pointed out
that the group home might be located on vacant land owned by Bruce
Plumbing. He stated it was his understanding that they are looking
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to get a grant for a residential facility for people with head
injuries. He noted that there are other problems with the site,
that it is located in a flood plain.
Commissioner Mann asked how the City Council resolved the subject
of advisory commission chairpersons. The Secretary stated that the
staff was directed to bring back a resolution for the next City
Council meeting which would require the election of chairpersons by
each advisory group. He stated that if that resolution is passed,
the Planning Commission would elect a chairperson and a chairperson
pro tem at its next meeting. He stated that there was also some
concern regarding appointment by. neighborhood. He stated that the
resolution will recommend trying to appoint members from each
neighborhood. There followed a discussion regarding advisory
commissions, vacancies and chairperson selection. Commissioner
Bernards was asked whether he would reconsider serving as
chairperson. Commissioner Bernards stated that he felt responsible
for some of the difficulty that has arisen and that he would be
willing to serve as Chairperson for the rest of the year.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Mann to adjourn the meeting of the Planning
Commission. The motion passed unanimously. The Planning
Commission adjourned at 10: 04 p.m.
Chairperson
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