HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980 05-22 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
STUDY SESSION
MAY 22, 1980
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission met, in study session and was called to order
by Chairman William Hawes at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Manson, Erickson and Simmons. Also
present were Director of Planning and Inspections Ronald Warren,
Superintendent of Engineering James Noska, Planning Assistant Gary
Shallcross and Engineering Assistant Jim Grube. The Secretary noted
that he had received calls earlier in the day from Commissioners
Theis and Lucht saying that they would be unable to attend the meet-
ing. He also stated that Commissioner Malecki had mentioned at a
previous meeting that she would be unable to attend the May 22
meeting.
APPROVAL .OF MINUTES - May 8 , 1980
Following a correction suggested by the Secretary to page 2 of the
. Minutes of the May 8 meeting regarding traffic control at the inter-
section of 67th Avenue and Shingle Creek Parkway, there was a motion
by Commissioner Erickson seconded, by Commissioner Manson to approve
the minutes of the May 8, 1980 meeting as corrected. Voting in favor:
Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Manson, Erickson and Simmons. Voting
against: none. The motion passed.
APPLICATION NO. 80015 (Darrel Farr Development Corp. )
Following the Chairman's explanation, the Secretary introduced the
first item of business, a request for a variance from Section 34-
140:2: 1(3) of the Sign Ordinance. He stated that the application
had been tabled at the May 8 meeting because no one representing
the applicant was present. He added that the Forsmans of 4703
Lakeview Avenue North had attended the meeting and expressed their
opposition to- the signery. The Secretary then reviewed Staff Report
No. 80015. (See Planning Commission Information Sheet for Appli-
cation No. 80015 attached) .
Following the presentation of the staff report, the Chairman called
on the applicant to speak to the application. Mr. Tom Johnson, re-
presenting Darrel Farr Development Corporation acknowledged that the
arguments made by his company had been presented in the Staff Report.
He added that the owner of the project considers the conversion of
The Beach to condominiums to be a "new" construction project which,
under the Sign Ordinance, is entitled to a larger sign. The Secre-
tary commented that the question of whether the conversion to con-
dominiums constituted a "new" construction project was addressed
during an appeal under Planning Commission Application No. 79066
which was reviewed by the Planning Commission and denied by the
City Council on November 19, 1979. He stated that 'the finding made
by the Planning Commission and City Council in .denying that appeal
was that the conversion to condominiums amounted to the sale of
existing living units, not new construction.
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Commissioner Simmons asked why new construction projects were allowed
larger signs than the -sale of existing living units. The Secretary
responded that the larger signery permitted for a new construction
project serves to inform the public what is being built on an empty
site. He noted that the State Building Code Division did not con-
sider the remodeling activities at The Beach project to be major
enough to require that the structure be brought up to current codes.
Therefore, the project was not viewed as "new construction" . Chair-
man Hawes added that another difference between the conversion to
condominiums and a new construction project is that the living units
for sale at The Beach are already producing revenue and are not
sitting empty, whereas in a new construction project that is not
the case. He also noted that interest rates were currently dropping
and should allow easier sale of the units.
Commissioner Erickson asked Mr. Johnson when sale of the units began;
how many had been sold; and whether he was using the maximum amount
of signery permitted under the ordinance. Mr. Johnson answered that
sale of the condominium units had begun in September of 1979 and
that while purchase agreements had been entered into for 71 units,
there had been some agreements which fell through. He explained
that Darrel Farr is paying over 20% interest on construction loans
to finance the project and' is, therefore, very urgent that the units
be sold as quickly as possible. He stated that the amount of signery
- being used to sell the project was the maximum allowed under the
ordinance. Chairman Hawes and Commissioner Simmons both noted that
the high interest rates plagueing the real estate markets, and not
a lack of signery, is probably the main cause for a slowdown in sales..
Mr. Johnson responded that the marketability of the project was bas.
primarily on visibility and potential signage. He pointed out that
over 50% of the buyers have stated that they came to investigate the
project because of the sign.
Chairman Hawes asked how signery was used at the Strawberry Commons
condominium conversion in Brooklyn Park. Mr. Johnson stated that a
billboard was used to advertise that project and that the billboard
had been allowed by a variance from the Sign Ordinance of Brooklyn
Park. The Secretary then catalogued for the applicant the various
signs available under the Brooklyn Center Sign Ordinance, including:
one 36 square foot identification sign; a 10 square foot wall sign
on each building; necessary directional signs which the applicant
presently has; and one 5 square foot real estate sign. He reiterated
his recommendation against granting the variance on the grounds that
the Standards for a Variance were not met.
In response to a question from Commissioner Simmons, Mr. Johnson
stated that because of the large right-of-way area for Highway- 100,
the sign advertising the sale of condominiums would have to be 200
feet from the roadway. This is one reason, he explained, why the
largest possible sign is being sought. Commissioner Erickson stated
that it appears the applicant was not utilizing all of the permitted
signery in the most advantageous manner. Commissioner Simmons en-
couraged the applicant to compliment his sign advertising with news-
paper advertising.
Commissioner Erickson asked for clarification of the statement in t
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applicant's letter that only three buyers of condominiums at The
Beach complex were residents of Brooklyn Center. Mr. Johnson ex-
plained that that number did not include previous residents of The
Beach.
Chairman Hawes stated that the Planning Commission had to be careful
in granting variances and adopting ordinance amendments since these
decisions could result in problems with other cases. He commented
that he had received phone Galls from residents of the area adjacent
to The Beach condominium complex, all of which were -opposed to the
proposed sign. The addresses of those who phoned Chairman Hawes
expressing opposition were 4725 Twin Lake Avenue North, 4703 Lakeview
Avenue North, 4040 Lakeside Avenue North, and 4006 Lakeside Avenue
North.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Erickson seconded by Commissioner Manson to
close the public hearing. Voting in favor: Chairman Hawes, Com-
missioners Manson, Erickson and Simmons. Voting against: none.
• The motion passed.
ACTION RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF APPLICATION NO: 80015
(Darrel Farr Development Corp. )
Motion by Commissioner Simmons seconded by Commissioner Erickson to
recommend denial of Application No. 80015, a request for a variance
from Section 34-140:2 1 (3) , on the grounds that the standards for a
variance are not met. Voting in favor: Commissioners Manson,
Erickson and Simmons. Voting against: Chairman Hawes. Chairman
Hawes explained that he felt some relief should be given to the- appli-
cant either in the form of a variance or an ordinance amendment to
perhaps allow temporary signery for the project.
RECESS -
The Planning Commission recessed at 8 :20 p.m. and resumed at 8:40 p.m.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM
The Planning Assistant answered questions from the Planning Commis-
sion regarding the full draft of the Capital Improvements Program.
Commissioner Simmons asked for clarification regarding the relation-
ship between tax rates and the City's growing tax base and asked
for- an assessment of the City' s fiscal condition. The Planning
Assistant responded that the City is in relatively good fiscal shape
and should have no problem paying the debts projected . in the proposed
Capital Improvements Program.
The Planning Assistant commented that some of the projections made in
the fiscal analysis might be somewhat optimistic. Commissioner Erick-
son asked which of these he was referring to. The Planning Assistant
answered that while Intergovernmental revenue was projected to keep
pace with inflation over the next five years, this might not be the
case if other levels of government "pull in their horns" , cutting
back on grants and shared revenue programs with local governments.
He .also stated that the projection that general operating expenditures
would increase only slightly faster than inflation was based .on the
assumption that real wages of American workers would decline slightly
over the next five years as they have for the past two years. He
stated that the projections for the City's tax base are based on
assumptions more conservative than the construction plans of the
Industrial -Park and the Assessor's expectations regarding the price
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behavior of real property in the City.
Commissioner Simmons asked whether the growth in the City's tax
base would result in higher taxes for local taxpayers. The Plan-
ning Assistant explained that the level of taxes collectible by the
City is controlled by the levy limit imposed by the State. The
Secretary added that in the year in which the City fell under the
State imposed levy limit, tax collections were abnormally low and that
it took five years to convince the State Department of Revenue that
Brooklyn Center's levy limit needed an upward adjustment.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE 1981-1985
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM
Motion by Commissioner Manson seconded by Commissioner Erickson to
recommend approval of the 1981-1985 Capital Improvements Program as
part of the new Brooklyn Center Comprehensive Plan. Voting in
favor: Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Manson, Erickson and Simmons.
Voting against: none. The motion passed.
Chairman Hawes inquired whether the City had received any comments
regarding its Comprehensive Plan from surrounding communities and
what plans it had received from those communities. *The Secretary
answered that the staff had received one minor comment from the City
of Brooklyn Park regarding the Brooklyn Center Plan. He stated that
the Planning bepartment had received plans from Minneapolis, Fridley,
and portions of the Brooklyn Park Plan. In addition, he said, the
four school districts serving 'Brooklyn Center had submitted their
Capital Improvements Programs to the Metropolitan Council which has
reviewed all of them. He stated that the City had no objections to
any of the Capital Improvements Programs of the school districts.
He did note, however, that the Metropolitan Council had recommended
that the Anoka-Hennepin School District and the Brooklyn Center School
District work out an arrangement to accommodate the desires of resi-
dents within the Anoka District in the Northeast Neighborhood of
Brooklyn Center,
Chairman Hawes and the Secretary discussed the timing of. the Com-
prehensive Plan adoption and implementation. The Secretary explained
that the Metropolitan Council would have 120 days to review the Com-
prehensive Plan and that after that review period, the City would
have to adopt the necessary changes to the ordinance.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
The Secretary referred the Commission's attention to the draft ordi-
nance amendment regarding joint parking and off-site accessory park-
ing. Commissioner Simmons pointed out that the ordinance does not
allow off-site accessory parking to be located in a zone which is
more restrictive than the zoning district in which the principal is
located. She noted that Harron Methodist Church is located in an R2
zone, while its parking area is in the Rl zone. The Planning Assis-
tant pointed out that the ordinance amendment stipulates that "for
the purposes of this section of the ordinance, institutional uses
in residential zones shall have the same status as C-1 zoned pro-
perty" . Under this rule, he said, the parking lot across the street
from the Harron Methodist Church and church itself could be treated
as C-1 zoned property for the purposes of establishing an off-site
. accessory parking arrangement. He added that the ordinance amendment.
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would allow an office building to make use of a church parking lot,
but that a retail use could not make use of a church parking lot.
Commissioner Simmons pointed out, however, that the church and the
parking lot are, in fact, located in different zones. The Secretary
acknowledged that this could be a problem and suggested further review.
Commissioner Erickson asked why the -distance requirement for off-site
accessory parking was changed in the draft amendment from 300 feet
to 800 feet. The Secretary' replied that this and other changes
would make the joint parking and off-site accessory parking provi-
sions of the Zoning Ordinance consistent with one another.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Simmons, seconded by Commissioner Manson to
adjourn the meeting of the Planning Commission. Voting in favor:
Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Manson, Erickson, and Simmons. Voting
against: none. The motion passed. The Planning Commission adjourned
at 9:24 p.m.
Chairman
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