HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980 07-10 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
REGULAR SESSION
JULY 10, 1980
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission met in regular session and was called to order
by Chairman William Hawes at 7: 35 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Theis, Manson, Lucht, Erickson and
Simmons. Also present were Director of Planning and Inspections
Ronald Warren, Superintendent of Engineering James Noska, and Plan-
ning Assistant Gary Shallcross. The Secretary noted that he had
. received a call earlier in the day from Commissioner Malecki in-
forming him that she would be late.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - June 26, 1980
Motion by Commissioner Theis seconded by Commissioner Lucht to
approve the minutes of the June 26, 1980 meeting as submitted.
Voting in favor: Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Theis, Lucht,
Erickson and Simmons. Voting against: none. Not voting: Com-
missioner Manson, as she was not at that meeting.
APPLICATION NO. 80020 (Gerald Blomberg)
Following the Chairman' s explanation, the Secretary introducea the
first item of business, a request for a special use permit to operate
a- recreation center in one of the tenant spaces in Humboldt Square.
The Secretary reviewed the information contained in the staff report.
(See Planning Commission Information Sheet, for Application No. 80020
attached) .
The Secretary showed the proposed layout of the tenant space as sub-
. mitted by the applicant, Gerald Blomberg. It showed a 9 ' x 12' area
to be devoted to electronic games. The rest of the floor area of
the 24 ' x 48 ' space would be used for display racks for cards, gifts
and other knick-knacks. There would also be vending machines in the
rear of the tenant space for dispensing pop, candy and other snack
items.
The Secretary then reviewed the past• history of other recreation
centers in Brooklyn Center. He stated that these operations can
cause problems for other businesses in the same shopping center. He
recalled the difficulties with the Electric Emporium formerly
occupying the same space in Humboldt Square, including drinking,
drugs, vandalism, curfew violations, etc. The Secretary stated that
the •City learned, as a result of the experience with the Electric
Emporium, what the proper conditions should be for the approval of
such an establishment. He cited Piccadilly Circus at Brookdale as a
successful operation which has caused the City few problems because
it •conforms to those conditions. He concluded by reporting that he
had received two responses to the written notices sent concerning the
operation, both in opposition. The responses were made by Kar-Win
Auto Parts and Lane Book Exchange in the Humboldt Square Shopping
Center.
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Commissioner Theis asked how many notices had been sent. Chairman
Hawes stated that the list of notices numbered 30 to 35. Commissioner
Erickson asked whether there was a Merchants Association of the
tenants at Humboldt Square. The Secretary answered that it was his
understanding that there was an association of tenants that occasion-
ally met to discuss problems. . He pointed out that the shopping center
is managed by Coldwell Banker.
Commissioner Malecki arrived at 7:54 p.m.
Chairman Hawes asked whether the gameb aspect of the operation would
be allowed to expand if the other aspects, cards and gifts and snacks
were to fail. The Secretary responded that such a contingency could
be controlled by the conditions of approval. He noted that the
proposal has evolved over the past two months with a number of uses
being mentioned by the applicant. He stated that he felt .the major
source of traffic, however, would always be the games.
Commissioner Simmons stated that in her opinion the two basic uses,
gifts and games, seem incompatible. She also questioned the layout.
of the uses and stated that she thought adults would avoid the -place,
rather than to frequent the establishment.
Commissioner Erickson asked the applicant how many games he would
have in the establishment. Mr. Blomberg responded that he would not
have more than ten, probably a half dozen. Commissioner Erickson .
stated he doubted that very many games could be put in a 9 ' x 12'
area. He then asked the applicant to explain something of his back-
ground. Mr. Blomberg answered that he ran a Dairy Queen operation
which has given him experience running a business that caters ' to
young people. He added that he had once been a clinical psychologist.
In answer to a question from Chairman Hawes, Mr. Blomberg stated that
the layout was intended to create a traffic pattern which would mix
adults and younger people.
Commissioner Simmons reiterated that she did not think -adults would
be attracted to such a place. Mr. . Blomberg admitted that she could
be right. - Commissioner Simmons asked where the layout for the estab-
lishment came from. Mr. Blomberg stated that there was a similar
operation at a delicatessen in Minnetonka.
The Secretary pointed out that the percent of revenue to be received
from games is not the same in two different letters received from the
applicant. Mr. Blomberg estimated that the games would probably
represent about 30% of his revenue. He added that the ,.company which
leases the machines gets most of the revenue. In response to a
question from Commissioner Lucht, Mr. Blomberg stated that he would
have two employees. '
PUBLIC HEARING
Chairman Hawes then opened the meeting for a public hearing. Barry
Wallerstedt, of 7001 Emerson Avenue North, stated that the' previous
game operation had been a problem to the .neighborhood. He added
that gift shops in Humboldt Square .have not been successful and he
predicted that the proposed use would become simply an electronic
game shop with no appeal to families.
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Commissioner Lucht stated that it should not be the City's concern
whether or not the business is profitable. He added that while
the Commission must take heed of past experiences,. it was also
necessary to give new businesses a chance. Commissioner Malecki
responded that the concern expressed by the Commission was whether
the business made any sense. She stated that if the business didn't
make sense to its customers, it would probably become simply a hang-
out for kids and might create problems for other businesses and for
residents in the area. Mr.- Wallerstedt expressed his agreement with
Commissioner Malecki's remarks. Commissioner Erickson suggested
that since the primary concern seems to be that if the gift aspect
of the operation fails, the entire tenant space will be devoted to
electronic games, perhaps restricting the area to be used for games
would be the best -control on any negative impacts.
The Secretary stated that the Planning Commission would have to make
a finding that the proposed use does not meet the Standards for a
. Special Use Permit in order to recommend denial. He explained that
staff had recommended tight conditions based on past experience with
recreation centers. He added that limiting the area for games would
be an appropriate control. With that restriction in place, he said,
the applicant would have to .return for an amendment to the special
use permit before expanding the games aspect of the operation.
Commissioner Lucht asked whether the City would be stuck with the
games operation for 12 months if it approved the permits. The
Secretary answered that similar applications had included three
month or six month reviews at which time the permit- could be re-
voked. He added that in this case it is recommended that the• permit
be subject to a review of complaints , ordinance violation's and
police calls and a report be made to the Planning Commission within
6 months. If problems are not resolved, consideration can be
given to revoking the permit.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Lucht seconded by Commissioner Erickson to
. close the public hearing. Voting in favor: Chairman Hawes, Com-
missioners Malecki, Theis, Manson, Lucht, Erickson and Simmons.
Voting against: none. The motion passed.
Commissioner Malecki inquired as to the requirement for bike racks
and whether that would affect parking or pedestrian traffic. The
Secretary responded that there is not a parking problem at the center
at present. He pointed out that the experience has been that bike
racks will be needed and that a specific location that will not
interfere with pedestrian and vehicular traffic will have to be
determined.
There followed a discussion of the house rules to be enforced at
the establishment. Commissioner Simmons expressed her doubt that
the rules could be enforced. Commissioner Lucht stated that it
should not be a concern of the Commission how the rules are en-
forced, only that they are adequate to protect the public's inter-
est. The Secretary pointed out that the house rules were recommended
as a ,condition of approval and that failure to enforce them would
be cause for considering revocation of the special use permit.
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ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION
NO. 80020 (Gerald Blomberg)
Motion by Commissioner Manson seconded 5y--Commissioner Theis to
recommend approval of Application No. 80020, a request for a special
use permit to operate a recreation center with electronic games at
the "Snacks and Nick Nacks" tenant space in Humboldt Square Shop-
ping Center, subject to the following conditions:
•1. The special use permit is issued to the
applicant as operator of the facility and
is nontransferable.
2. The permit is subject to all applicable
codes, ordinances, and regulations and
any violation thereof shall be grounds
for revocation.
3. The hours of operation shall be from
10:00 a.m. to 9: 30 p.m. Monday through
Saturday and from 1:00 p.m. to 9: 30 p.m.
on Sunday.
4. The permit is subject to a review within
6 months of complaints, 'ordinance viola-
tions and police calm. If, at the time
of this review, the use is deemed by the
City Council to constitute a public
nuisance, the permit shall be revoked.
5. House rules and hours of local curfew
regulations shall be clearly posted in
the establishment and rigorously en-
forced. The rules shall be submitted
to the Director of Planning and Inspections
prior to issuance of the special use permit.
6. Provisions shall be made for bicycle parking
racks located in a manner approved by the
Department of Planning and Inspection.
7. The applicant shall assure that the outside
areas are maintained free of debris and
litter generated by patrons of his estab-
lishment. -
8. The area devoted to games shall be limited
to 1/3 of the retail floor area of the
establishment. Non-sales floor area shall
not be included in the computation of the
allowable space for games.
Voting in favor: Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Malecki, Theis,
Lucht and Erickson. Voting against: Commissioner Simmons. Com-
missioner Simmons stated that her dissenting vote was based on the
previous experience with a recreation center in this neighborhood
and on the extreme difficulty she sees in enforcing the house rules
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as long as the operation is set up in the manner proposed by the
applicant. She stated that the applicant has not demonstrated
that he can meet Standard (b) for Special Use Permits and that
the issuance of the permit may be injurious or detrimental to the
use and enjoyment of other property in the immediate vicinity.
APPLICATION NOS. 80021 and 80022 (Commercial Partners)
The Secretary introduced the next item .of business, preliminary
plat approval and site and building plan approval for a complex
including a shopping center, restaurant and theater ,to be built
on the Charlson property north of Brookdale Ford and south of
Northwestern Bell on the east side of Shingle Creek Parkway. He
reviewed the information contained in. the staff reports for both
preliminary plat (Application No. 800.21) and site and building
plan (Application No. 80022) applications. (See Planning Com-
mission Information Sheets for Application Nos. 80021 and 80022
. attached) .
Following presentation of the staff reports, the Secretary re-
ferred to a memo from the Director of Public Works concerning
traffic generated by the proposed development. He stated that
although two traffic studies by engineering consultants have agreed
that the projected traffic counts for Shingle Creek Parkway and for
the. shopping center will not meet the warrants for a traffic sig-
nal at the location of the main entrance to the complex, it is
likely that there will be enough political demand for the traffic
signals to require their eventual installation. He. cited the ex-
ample of the signals of 65th and Brooklyn Boulevard and the signals
projected for 73rd and West River Road as examples. `
Chairman Hawes asked what would be the consequence of installing
one-way private streets with the south entrance being an enter
only driveway and the north median opening used for exit only
traffic. Commissioner Simmons stated that the shopping center
would almost. certainly have to be reoriented if people were ever
to find their way out using one-way streets. The Secretary commented
that Northwestern Bell would probably suffer from such an arrangement.
He recommended that the Planning Commission require the dedication of
land for a public street to be installed along the north property
line.
Commissioner Manson asked whether most of the traffic coming to
the site would not be traveling southbound on Shingle Creek Park-
way. The Secretary answered that both traffic studies show a
slight majority of traffic coming from the north. He noted that
the Interchange at Highway 100 and Interstate 94 would be modified
to eliminate certain traffic movements at that intersection. He
added that the Interchange at Shingle Creek Parkway and Interstate
94 would be a complete Interchange and would handle most of the
traffic coming from the northwest to this site. Commissioner Manson
commented that it would seem to be advantageous to face the building
to the north considering the direction of traffic. The Secretary
agreed and pointed out that the City' s chief concern is that the
north access to the site be the main access so that if signals are
installed, they can be limited to one convenient location.
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Commissioner Erickson noted the many problems the City has had
in attempting to get land for a roadway along the north -property
line. He asked whether it was realistic to require that at this
time. The Secretary answered that it was his understanding that
Northwestern Bell would cooperate with- the installation of a road
along its south property line. He stated that although there may
be opposition from property owners to the east, it would still
be best for the City to ask for the dedication of land for this '
segment of the roadway at this time. If condemnation were re-
quired to complete the roadway through to John Martin Drive, he
said, that could be pursued in the future without holding up the
development of the Charlson property.
Chairman Hawes then called on the applicant's representative to
speak to the application. Mr. Darrell Fortier of Korsunsky-Krank-
Erickson addressed the Commission. He pointed out two changes in
the information supplied in the staff report. He stated that the
toy store would be shifted approximately 100 feet to the west and
that the second lease already obtained by the developer was with
a wallpaper store rather than a sporting goods store. He added
that the exterior treatment of the shopping center might consist
of wall brick as opposed to face brick. Mr. Fortier also stated
that the applicant is willing to amend the landscape plan in
accordance with the recommendations of staff.
Mr. Fortier stated that the real issue presented by the application
is the orientation of the shopping center. He stated -that the
orientation of the shopping center to the south is a means of gain-
ing greater community. recognition. He stated that this orientation
would give the center the greatest visibility to people traveling on
Shingle Creek Parkway and County Road 10. He stated that the amount
of -traffic* coming from any particular direction is not the only
concern.
As to the roadway, he stated that Commercial Partners is not opposed
to a road along the north- property line, but added that there does
not seem to be any benefit to the property. He added that the same
would be true for other properties abutting the new road. He stated
that while the roadway might solve some traffic problems, he did
not think the benefit of the roadway could be assessed to abutting
properties. He added that while Commercial Partners would not
oppose the roadway, there would be definite damages resulting from
the loss of land, notably the loss of parking space to support the
retail floor area of the plan for the complex. Mr. Fortier pointed
out that two traffic studies of this area show that warrants will
not be met by traffic using the shopping center and Shingle Creek
Parkway.
Shelly Johnson of Barton-Aschmann Associates next addressed the
Commission regarding the projected traffic volumes. He stated
that the location is excellent for commercial development and that
the approach to the site would be roughly 50-50 from the north and
south along Shingle Creek Parkway. He explained that the 14,700
average daily traffic projection for Shingle Creek Parkway is for
the year 2000 and added that peak hour left turns are calculated
based on the 15th heaviest day of the year. Normal traffic, he
said, would only be about 60% of that estimate. Regarding the
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possibility that traffic signals might be forced on the City by
political pressures, he stated that traffid engineers simply can-
not listen to the public outcry. He also pointed out that the
proposal basically meets the guidelines for access along Shingle
Creek Parkway even though the middle curb cut is only 230 feet
from the south entrance to the site. He concluded his remarks by
saying that if traffic signals were put in, they would not be a
problem for movement of traffic along Shingle- Creek Parkway.
-The Superintendent of Engineering stated that some of the traffic
counts used by- Mr. Johnson in his presentation were inaccurate.
He pointed out that the traffic projection by MN/DOT for Shingle
Creek Parkway in the year 2000 is actually as high as 17,500 rather
than 7200. He stated that the City must consider safety warrants
as well as traffic warrants when deciding on the installation of
traffic signals. He suggested that while traffic projections do
not quite meet warrants , the addition of accidents, property damage
and personal injuries or deaths at a given location might easily
result in the need for a traffic signal.
Chairman Hawes asked whether a new road would be paid for by all
properties in the Industrial Park. The Superintendent of Engi-
neering answered that a new roadway would be assessed over the
entire commercial and industrial area between the freeway and
County Road 10. The Superintendent of Engineering also stated
that the cost of acquiring land through condemnation might also
be assessed on all of the land in this area of the Industrial Park.
Commissioner Simmons questioned how visible the Shopping Center
would be from County Road 10 with Brookdale Ford in the -way. She
disliked the -idea of another eight screen theater in an area which
already has five screens and stated that car high shrubbery would
be annoying to those coming up to a major driving lane_ within the
parking lot. Mr. Fortier answered that the north portion of the
site is visible from County Road 10 and Shingle Creek Parkway and
stated that it would be injurious to the shopping center for the
building to be moved to the south side of the site.
Mr. Fortier also stated that if the north entry is the main entry
to the site, it would double the traffic at that location over the
proposed plan. He stated that while Commercial Partners would not
oppose the road, it prefers the plan as submitted. He added that
the community wants the shopping center to locate on this property
as shown by the •City Council's approval of the Industrial Develop-
ment Revenue Bonds for this project.
Chairman Hawes and Shelly Johnson discussed one-way streets briefly.
Mr. Johnson explained that one-way streets would add to driving
time and that people try to leave a complex at the same point they
come in and would thus be confused by one-way streets. He stated
that he felt the proposal as submitted will. work fine from a traf-
fic standpoint. Chairman Hawes expressed doubt that the proposal
would work without signals. He cited the problem of. getting onto
Brooklyn Boulevard at intersections that are not signalized. Mr.
Johnson conceded that there may be problems , but that if signals
were installed at the south median opening there would be no dif-
ficulties for traffic along Shingle Creek Parkway.
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Commissioner Simmons expressed concern about the entrance to the
southern private driveway from the restaurant being fairly close
to Shingle Creek Parkway. Mr. Fortier noted that that entrance is
150 feet from the roadway. and should not be a problem. Commissioner
Simmons asked what would be the effect of shifting the restaurant
northward. Mr. Fortier answered that that would leave the southern
median cut too close to County Road 10. The Secretary explained
that the median cut serving Brookdale Ford would be closed and that
because of its proximity to County Road 10 , staff recommend that-
the south entrance to the site be the'minor access point to the
complex. He explained that the staff had long ago indicated to
the applicant that the concept of the public street along the north
property line might be abandoned if the north access to the site .
was the major access and the south entrance the minor access. He
added that the tentative approval of the Industrial Development '
Revenue Bonds for the complex was not an approval of any specific
development plan. He also pointed out that, at the time the Indus-
trial Development Revenue Bonds were considered by the City Council,
the applicant had expressed complete willingness to make whatever
amendments were necessary to meet with City approval and that the
site plan .arrangement was not cast in concrete.
A discussion then ensued between Commissioner Simmons and Mr. Fortier
and Mr. Gustafson regarding the nature of the shopping center. Mr.
Fortier explained that the shopping•center would be a destination .
center for certain specific items rather than a neighborhood shop-
ping center meeting general community needs. Mr. Gustafson added
that the nature of the business is such that there is a need for
visibility from Brookdale.
The Secretary stated that the location of the building is not
actually the primary concern of staff. Rather, he said, the primary
concern is that the main access to the site be the north access.
Commissioner Erickson asked about the problems of pursuing the road-
way. The Secretary responded that the best course of action at this
time would be to ask for dedication of land for roadway purposes
along the -north property line of the subject site. He stated that,
if necessary, the City could condemn land for other portions of' the
roadway after further negotiations had been tried. The road could
be built in stages as was mentioned in the BRW Traffic. Study for
this site. Commissioner 'Erickson asked the applicant how he felt
about the roadway. Mr. Fortier answered that the roadway would be
injurious to the commercial complex because it would eliminate
parking stalls needed to support the building area desire and would
probably never be completed. The Secretary pointed out that the
City Staff had been told by the applicant that the City would have
to take the initiative if the roadway were to go through. He stated
that in light of the lack of interest by private landowners, the
City would take the initiative and use its condemnation powers,
if necessary. He stated that the first step in this process was
to request the' dedication of roadway by this property owner. This,
he stated, was in keeping with the City Council directive at the
time the Shingle Creek Parkway Access Policy was adopted by the
Council.
Chairman Hawes asked how much land would be taken through roadway
dedication. The Secretary answered that it would not amount to
very much since the right-of-way would' be shared between this
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property and Northwestern Bell. As to the impact on parking re-
quirements, the Secretary stated that there would be some effect
since the present plan called for total utilization of available
land. He added that setbacks for the building from the right-of-
way would have to be taken into account in the site and building
plan. Chairman Hawes commented that it seemed that only the office
building to the east (the American Family Insurance Office Build-
ing) would be adversely affected and perhaps even this could be
ameliorated.
Mr. James R. Merila, of Merila-Hansen, next spoke on behalf of
the applicant. He stated that from his experience with the City,
it was always understood that Brookdale Ford would have to move
its access onto Shingle Creek Parkway further north. He stated
that the concept for access contained in the site plan is not
new and that it is in line with what had been planned in the past.
.He pointed out that if the roadway were put in, the parking lot
setback for the Perkins Restaurant would be deficient. He also
stated that there would be no real benefit to any of the abutting
properties. He stated that the main benefit of a through street
is -that people do not become confused as they would by a cul-de-
sac. ' He stated that the main question to be resolved is where
the main access should be to the site. He noted that traffic
signals which have been installed in other locations which did not
meet traffic warrants were a result of pedestrian, not vehicle,
difficulties. He pointed out that the site in question would draw
little in terms of pedestrian traffic. Chairman Hawes pointed out
that the roadway would allow drivers to use John Martin Drive ' in
order to enter Highway 100, thereby relieving some of the' conges-
tion on County Road 10. Mr. Merila responded that the roadway
would also bring traffic to Shingle Creek Parkway from the north
end of the commercial area which might not travel that way otherwise.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Erickson seconded by Commissioner Theis to
close the public hearing. Voting in favor: Chairman Hawes, Com-
missioners Malecki, Theis, Manson, Lucht, Erickson and Simmons.
Voting against: none. The motion passed unanimously.
ACTION TABLING APPLICATION NO. 80021 (Commercial Partners)
Following a discussion among the Commission as to the implications
of asking for roadway dedication, there was a motion by Commissioner
Theis seconded by Commissioner Manson to table Application No. 80021
with direction to the applicant to resubmit the preliminary plat
with dedication for roadway and the major access point shown along
the north side of the property. While the motion was on the floor,
Mr. Fortier approached the Commission and asked that the Commission
vote the application up or down, rather than to table. Chairman
Hawes asked the recommendation of staff. The Secretary answered
that the staff would prefer tabling the application as contained
in the motion. Chairman Hawes repeated the motion. Voting in
favor: Chairman Hawes and Commissioner Theis. Voting against:
Commissioners Malecki, Manson, Lucht and Erickson. Not voting:
Commissioner Simmons. The motion failed.
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ACTION RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF APPLICATION NO. 80021
(Commercial Partners)
Motion by Commissioner Malecki seconded by Commissioner Manson to
recommend denial of Application No. 80021, preliminary plat ap-
proval for the Charlson and Brookdale Ford sites, because the pre-
liminary plat does not meet the Council's direction for a roadway
along the north edge of the property, nor is the applicant willing
to make the north access the major access point. Voting in favor:
Commissioners Malecki, Theis,. Manson, Lucht and Erickson. Voting
against: Chairman Hawes. Not votingr Commissioner Simmons. The
motion passed.
ACTION TABLING APPLICATION NO. 80022 (Commercial Partners)
Motion by Commissioner Theis seconded by Commissioner Simmons to.
table Application No. 80022, site and building plan for a shopping
center complex on the property between Brookdale Ford and .North-
western Bell on Shingle Creek Parkway, until the issue of the road-
way along the north property line is resolved. Voting in favor:
Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Malecki, Theis, Lucht, Erickson and
Simmons. Voting against: none. Not voting: Commissioner Manson.
The motion passed.
Commissioner Malecki asked that when the plans are resubmitted to
the Planning Commission, they be revised to show the agreed upon
changes to the landscape plan recommended by staff.
RECESS
The Planning Commission recessed at 11:05 p.m. and resumed at 11:21 p.je,„
APPLICATION NO. 80025 (Lutheran Church of the Master)
Following the recess, the Secretary introduced the next item of
business, site and building plan approval to construct an approxi-
mate 10,000 sq. ft. addition to the existing Lutheran Church of the
Master at 1200-69th Avenue North. He reviewed the information con-
tained in the staff report. (See Planning Commission Information
Sheet for Application No. . 80025 attached) .
Following presentation of the staff report, the Secretary pointed
out that the most recent plans submitted changed the location of- the
entryway at the north property line slightly to the west so that it
would line up with one of- the driving lanes in the parking lot. He
stated that staff would recommend against this alignment in that
traffic would be encouraged to use the lane for a .cut-through to
70th Avenue and the shifting of the driveway would increase the
possibility of lights shining into the home on the north side of 70th.
Avenue. He also stated that the approved plan should show the types
of foliage and species of trees to be planted. .
Chairman Hawes asked whether the revised greenstrip around the north
parking lot would provide enough room for berms as a screening device.
The Secretary pointed out that a 15 ft. greenstrip would not accom-
modate more than a 2h ft. berm with a 3 to 1 slope. He expressed
the opinion that the foliage, if planted densely, would be a better
screening device.
Commissioner Simmons asked whether chains would be an effective way
of controlling the cut-through traffic traveling southwest and north-
east on the site. The Secretary answered that these could be used
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although they would likely create some difficulties. He stated
that the changes made to the plans do address most of the problems
with the site. Commissioner Simmons clarified that she was concerned
about protecting the newly installed hedge from drivers attempting
to drive over the boulevard directly onto 70th Avenue. The Secretary
responded that a dense hedge is required and that . a bond will be held
until the screening device is viable. He added that with the instal-
lation of the 6 inch curb it did not seem likely that the hedge would
be disturbed by cars using the parking lot. Mr. Barry Wallerstedt,
of 7001 Emerson Avenue North, stated that the main problem is caused
by the cut-through traffic, not the church traffic. Chairman Hawes
again suggested berming within the greenstrip area. However, Com-
missioner Lucht considered this idea superfluous and the Superin-
tendent of Engineering suggested that �a berm in this case might be
difficult to install and maintain.
PUBLIC HEARING
-Chairman Hawes then opened the meeting for a public hearing. Mr. Tom
Sollberger, the Chairman of the Building Committee at Lutheran Church
of the Master, stated that the church is concerned about the traffic
problem. Relative to the proposal for berming, he stated that the
church would prefer foliage to a fence or a berm which might give the
impression that the church is trying to exclude people. Mr. Waller- .
stedt stated that the proposed plan would be a big improvement over
the existing situation. He stated that his main concern was with
the cut-through and winter spin-around traffic. He pointed out that
using foliage for a screening device would be attractive, but would
have to be maintained.
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Commissioner Simmons asked whether installing a chain across the
driveway openings would prevent the parking lot from .being used as a
skating rink for cars during the winter time. Mr. Thor Haug, President
of the church congregation, stated that the church considered the idea
of chains, but dropped it when someone heard of a man on a motorcycle
being beheaded by such a barrier. Ann Wallerstedt, also of 7001
Emerson Avenue North, stated that chains would have some value at
.certain times, such as when school children are in the area. The
Pastor of the church, John Peterson, explained that the church has
a very busy schedule and stated that manning the chains would be a
full time job. Mr. John Torseth, the architect for the project and
a member of the church, stated that to provide visibility at drive-
way openings, he would recommend that the foliage screen not encroach
within 15 ft. of either driveway opening. He also stated that cars
using a parking lot for a skating rink is a problem which any fairly E
large establishment faces. The Superintendent of Engineering com-
mented that the curbing around the parking lot and the delineators
within the parking lot should reduce the cut-through traffic. He
also recommended the placement of stop signs at both entrances to
the north parking lot. Ann Wallerstedt asked if the plans could be
modified to show a continuation of boulevard shade trees on 70th
Avenue and Emerson Avenue as established by the apartment buildings
to the west.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Lucht seconded by Commissioner Malecki to close
the public hearing. Voting in favor: Chairman Hawes, Commissioners
Malecki, Theis , Manson, Lucht, Erickson and Simmons. Voting against:
none. The motion passed unanimously.
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Commissioner Malecki suggested that conditions of approval require
the chaining off of at least one entrance. She argued that this
would hold down the cut-through traffic somewhat. She stated that
the church should be concerned about the liability of a child being
injured by a motorist cutting through as well as liability for a
motorcyclist.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 80025 (Lutheran
Church of the Master)
Motion by Commissioner Lucht seconded by- Commissioner Malecki to
recommend approval of Application No. 80025, site and building plan
and special use permit approval, to construct an approximate 10,•000
sq. ft. addition to the existing church at 1200 - 69th Avenue North,
subject to the following conditions:
1. The permit is subject to all applicable codes,
ordinances and regulations and violation thereof
shall be grounds for revocation.
2. Building plans are subject to review and approval
by the Building- Official prior to the issuance of
permits.
3. Grading, drainage, utility and berming plans are
subject to review and approval by the City Engineer
prior to the issuance of permits.
4. A site performance agreement and supporting financial
guarantee (in an amount to be determined by the City
Manager) shall be submitted prior to the issuance of
permits to assure completion of approved site
improvements.
5. B612 curb and gutter shall be provided around all
parking and driving areas, except that B6 curb may be ,
acceptable around the north parking lot area upon
approval by the .City Engineer.
6. Any outside trash disposal facilities or rooftop
mechanical equipment shall be appropriately screened
from view.
7. The property is subject to replatting in accordance
with City Ordinances. , A final plat shall be filed
with the County prior to the issuance of building
permits.
8. The plans will be amended prior to consideration by
the City Council to show a 15 ft. opening in the
foliage screen either side of a driveway; the foliage
screen will be labeled as honeysuckle planted at three
foot on center; that ornamental trees will be in-
dicated along the west property line with species
designated; that. the •driveway off 70th Avenue stay
where it presently is, rather than be moved to the'
west; and that 1 3/4" diameter boulevard trees will
be planted at 75 ' intervals along 70th and Emerson
Avenues North; and the placement of stop signs at
both entrances to the north parking lot.
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Voting in favor: Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Malecki, Theis, Lucht,
Erickson, and Simmons. Voting against: none. Not voting: Commis-
sioner sioner Manson. The motion passed. Commissioner Manson explained
that she abstained from the vote because she is a member of the
church and wished to avoid any conflict of interest.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS .
The Secretary then informed the Commission briefly of a small project
by the Brookdale Covenant Church at 5139 Brooklyn Boulevard to install
a handicapped driveup. facility for the north entrance to the church.
He stated that staff did not consider the project to be a major
structural alteration and said that although- the representatives of
the church were appraised of the current site deficiencies, it was
felt this project was not the occasion to bring the entire site up
to current ordinance standards.
The Secretary also informed the Commission of the action by the
Brooklyn Park Planning Commission concerning the self-service car
wash to be located on the property immediately north of The Ponds
Residential Development. He stated that while it was legally im-
possible for the Brooklyn Park Planning Commission to deny the use
proposed, it did require screening very close to Brooklyn Center
Standards and limited the hours of operation. - He also noted that
drainage from the' site is toward the street in Brooklyn Park, rather
than towards Shingle Creek. Chairman Hawes ,' who had also been to
the meeting, noted that there would be a six foot high fence placed
along the property line, that a full mansard would be placed around
the entire building and that the building generally ,appears to be
attractive.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Erickson seconded by Commissioner Simmons to
adjourn the meeting of the Planning Commission. Voting in favor:
Chairman Hawes, Commissioners Theis, Malecki, Manson, Lucht, Erickson
and Simmons. Voting against: none. The motion passed unanimously.
The Planning Commission adjourned at 12:44 a.m.
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