HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012 11-26 CCM Work Session MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL/ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER
IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND
THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
WORK SESSION
NOVEMBER 26, 2012
CITY HALL—COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER
The Brooklyn Center City Council/Economic Development Authority (EDA) met in Work
Session called to order by Mayor/President Tim Willson at 8:43 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Mayor/President Tim Willson and Councilmembers/Commissioners Carol Kleven, Kay Lasman,
Lin Myszkowski, and Dan Ryan. Also present were City Manager Curt Boganey, Public Works
Director/City Engineer Steve Lillehaug, Director of Business and Development Gary Eitel,
Assistant City Manager/Director of Building & Community Standards Vickie Schleuning, and
Carla Wirth, TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
THIRD GENERATION WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE
Public Works Director/City Engineer Steve Lillehaug continued a PowerPoint presentation of the
Shingle Creek and West Mississippi Watershed Management Commission's (SCWMWMC)
Third Generation Watershed Management Plan.
Councilmember/Commissioner Ryan asked whether a bioswale is a ditch with a rain garden. Mr.
Lillehaug explained bio-infiltration is when water percolates into the soil and bio-filtration is
when water percolates into the soil to an underground drain the that provides filtration prior to
entering the storm sewer.
Mr. Lillehaug concluded presentation of the SCWMWMC Third Generation Watershed
Management Plan. He indicated if asked, he would state support for the Plan and draw attention
to the Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) amendment portion, encourage the SCWMWMC to
maintain that amendment, and to expect more projects to be added to the CIP. Mr. Lillehaug
stated he found the SCWMWMC to be proactive with its rule changes that support and clarify
elements in the current rules that are ambiguous.
Mr. Lillehaug explained some think that the SCWMWMC puts a lot of the focus on developers
to address contamination issues and that may be the case because there is the opportunity and it
is the most cost effective method to address problems that have been created in the past
(TMDLs). However, he finds the process to be fair because the same is done on all City projects
and would have been a requirement earlier had the information been known. Mr. Lillehaug
asked for input on key points the City Council/EDA wants forwarded to the SCWMWMC. He
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stated he supports the Third Generation Plan as does the SCWMWMC Commissioner
representing Brooklyn Center.
Councilmember/Commissioner Myszkowski asked if there has been pushback from developers.
Mr. Lillehaug stated comments have been made that sometimes the rules are difficult to meet but
in all cases they have found common ground and developers have not shied away from Brooklyn
Center because of the rules. Councilmember/Commissioner Myszkowski stated if it is the
expectation of every other city, Brooklyn Center should have the same.
Councilmember/Commissioner Lasman stated the "playing field" is level if all follow the same
rules. She felt all would agree that "Mother Earth" was not treated carefully enough in the past
and she is supportive of all the changes. Councilmember/Commissioner Lasman asked about the
tradeoff for paving the Heritage Center parking lot. Mr. Lillehaug stated that project predates
him and he is unsure if a pond had been expanded to balance paving that parking lot.
Councilmember/Commissioner Ryan stated the storm water treatment efforts are a cost of doing
business for developers, who are sophisticated and understand these rules are set by watershed
districts and the State and must be followed. He asked whether many developers use engineering
consultants to navigate through these types of standards. Mr. Lillehaug stated that is generally
the case and all developers know the rules exist. He noted the City implements many Best
Management Practices (BMPs) as well to act proactively.
Councilmember/Commissioner Ryan asked whether residents using permeable pavers for a
driveway improvement would be a move in the right direction. Mr. Lillehaug explained they
would not review a project that small but would ask them to incorporate BMPs into their project.
He noted that every project counts and small projects such as that will add up.
Councilmember/Commissioner Ryan stated perhaps the City can discuss the option of offering
incentives when using those measures.
City Manager Curt Boganey asked if data is available that addresses the cost a development may
incur as a result of these rule changes. Mr. Lillehaug did not recall seeing that type of data. Mr.
Boganey asked if concern had been expressed about changing the competitive advantage/
disadvantage in this watershed versus other first ring suburbs. Mr. Lillehaug indicated it was
actually the opposite since the SCWMWMC is just catching up with other more stringent
watersheds.
Mr. Boganey asked about the number of properties that would be covered by the new rules that
would not have been included under the old rules. Mr. Lillehaug stated the SCWMWMC
conducted a full and detailed evaluation of that issue and that is where the balance came for the
new thresholds, considering who it would impact and if it was equitable at this scale.
With regard to comments received relating to the Plan, Mr. Lillehaug stated not many were
received but collectively all comments have been included in the Plan. He noted this Plan is
quite complex and comments of significance related to the type of projects the City has in line
(i.e., Shingle Creek connections and restoration).
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Mr. Boganey stated there is one more Council meeting prior to the next SCWMWMC meeting.
He suggested bringing this topic back for the December 10, 2012, meeting to allow time for the
City Council/EDA to review this large amount of information.
Councilmember/Commissioner Lasman stated she would like more data on the response by other
cities and developers,
The majority consensus of the City Council/EDA was to continue consideration of the Third
Generation Watershed Management Plan update for the Shingle Creek and West Mississippi
Watershed Management Commission to December 10, 2012.
ADJOURNMENT
Councilmember/Commissioner Lasman moved and Councilmember/Commissioner Ryan
seconded adjournment of the City Council/Economic Development Authority Work Session at
9:31 p.m.
Motion passed unanimously.
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STATE OF MINNESOTA)
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN) ss. Certification of Minutes
CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER)
The undersigned, being the duly qualified and appointed City Clerk of the City of Brooklyn
Center, Minnesota, certifies:
1. That attached hereto is a full, true, and complete transcript of the minutes of a Work
Session of the City Council of the City of Brooklyn Center held on November 26, 2012.
2. That said meeting was held pursuant to due call and notice thereof and was duly held at
Brooklyn Center City Hall.
3. That the City Council adopted said minutes at its December 10, 2012, Regular Session.
City Clerk Mayor
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