HomeMy WebLinkAbout1982 07-01 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
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AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
STUDY SESSION
JULY 1, 1982
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission met in study session and was called to order
by Chairman Pro tern Nancy Manson at 7: 39 p.m.
. ROLL CALL
Chairman Pro tern Nancy Manson, Commissioners Molly Malecki, Mary
Simmons, Lowell Ainas, Carl Sandstrom and Donald Versteeg. Chairman
Pro tern Manson explained that Chairman Lucht was unable to attend the
evening's meeting because he was out of town and was, therefore,
excused.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - June 17, 1982
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Malecki to
approve the minutes of the June 17, 1982 Planning Commission meeting
as submitted. Voting in favor: Chairman Pro tern Manson, Commissioners
Malecki, Simmons, Sandstrom and Versteeg. Voting against: none. Not
voting: Commissioner Ainas. The motion passed.
TABLE APPLICATION NO. 82023 (Bergstrom Realty Company)_
Following the Chairman's explanation, the Secretary mentioned that the
applicant's representative for Application No. 82023 requested that
the application be tabled until brought back at the applicant's
request.' Motion by Commissioner Simmons seconded by Commissioner
Malecki to table Application No. 82023 until resubmitted by the appli-
cant. Voting in favor: Chairman Pro tern Manson, Commissioners Malecki
Simmons, Ainas,, Sandstrom and Versteeg. Voting against: none. The
motion passed unanimously. -
APPLICATION NO. 82028 (Deborah Tobako)
The Secretary t en intro ed the FIrst business item, a request for
a special use permit to conduct ceranu cs classes in the basement of
the residence at 5636 Girard Avenue North. The Secretary reviewed
the contents of the staff report (see Planning Commission Information
Sheet for Application No. 82028 attached) . The Secretary also pointed
out that the special use permit granted to Mrs. LaVonne Malikowski of
5507 Logan Avenue North did not comprehend any on-street parking. He
. stated that in that case Logan Avenue is a busier street and that there
is a bus stop roughly in front of the Malikowski residence which made
on-street parking less appropriate in that case. He stated that the
Planning Commission, in this case, would have to determine that there
is a need for on-street parking to such an extent that the home
occupation would not be feasible without allowing on-street. parking.
Commissioner Simmons stated that it seemed to her the ordinance requires
the Planning Commission to monitor the need for on-street parking for
this home occupation. She added that she did not feel it was fair to.
limit home occupations in ways that other residents are not limited
with respect to on-street parking. The Secretary stated that the
ordinance sets up criteria to review home occupations on a case-by-
case basis. He stated that this home occupation will likely grow and
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that the Planning Commission may want to require that the application
be brought back later for review regarding the need for on-street
parking. Commissioner Sandstrom stated that he agreed with Commis-'
sioner Simmons that other residents seemed to have more rights than
persons having a home occupation. He stated that he did not see a need
for restricting the right of a resident who has a home occupation to
not have any on-street .parking.
Commissioner Simmons explained that when the ordinance was amended
instituting the procedure of making a determination of need for on-
- street parking, the number of persons allowed in a class, as part of
a -home occupation, was increased from- 4 to 10. She stated that re-
quiring all parking to be kept off-street may lead persons with art
classes to build bigger drivedays and pave a substantial portion of
their front yard. She stated that this would not seem to be consistent
with preserving the residential character. of the neighborhood. The
Secretary acknowledged that this could be a result of restricting
parking to off-street. He pointed out, however, that there are -
parking restrictions generally on all residents which limit on-street
parking `to 6 hours during the day and 4 hours at night. Chairman' Pro
tem Manson stated that she felt the ordinance allowed the Planning
Commission the option of permittirfg on-street parking when a home
occupation is not feasible without it. She then called on the appli
cant and asked whether- them-were any additional comments. Mrs.
Tobako stated that she had nothing further to add. _
`-Commissioner Simmons asked how many cars could fit on the driveway.
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Mrs. Tobako answered that five cars could normally fit on the driveway,
possibly six if they were small cars. She also mentioned that there
is an alley behind the house which is unpaved. Commissioner Simmons
-asked Mrs. Tobako whether she could do without on-street parking.
*rs. Tobako stated that based on the size of the class already signed
up, she would not need on-street parking, but added that she expected
class size to change over time. and would like to have the option of
parking on the street.
Commissioner Ainas asked whether Mrs. Tobako had talked with neighbors
about the anticipated need for on-street parking. Mrs. Tobako answered
in ,the ,a ;frmative and stated that those neighbors she has talked with
have not objected. Commissioner Ainas stated that he wondered about
the reaction of the neighbors because he had driven down that street
the night before and saw many cars parked along the street in front
of other people's houses.
PUBLIC HEARING
Chairman Pro tem Manson then opened the meeting for a public hearing
and asked whether anyone present wished to comment on the application.
No one present spoke.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Malecki to
close the public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
There followed a lengthy- discussion regarding the determination of
need for on-street parking. Commissioner Simmons stated that the
ordinance allows Mrs. Tobako to have 10 students, but that without on
street parking of at least two spaces, it would be impossible to have
the number of students which the ordinance permits. The Secretary
stated that a limit of two on-street parking spaces might still
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constrain the number of students in the class. He reviewed the three'+
considerations for allowing on-street parking in association with
home occupations and suggested that a finding be made that on-street
parking was necessary and feasible, or not. In answer to a question
from Commissioner Ainas, the Secretary stated that he did not feel the
Planning Commission would paint itself into a corner if it allowed two
pn-street parking spaces for the proposed home occupation. He stated
that each home occupation has to be looked 'at on a case-by-case basis.
He explained that different circumstances can lead to different con-
ditions applying to the approval of a home -occupation or could lead _
to disapproval of a homy occupation.
ACTION RECOMMENDING, APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 82028 (Deborah Tobako) 4
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Ainas to
recommend approval of Application No. 82028 in consideration of a
finding that the proposed home occupation would not be feasible without
on-street parking, and subject to the following conditions :
1. The permit is issued to the applicant as operator of the.
facility and is nontransferable.
2. The permit is subject to all codes, ordinances, and
regulations. Any violation thereof shall be grounds
for revocation.
3. No more than 10 students shall attend. any one class in
accordance with Section 35-406- of the Zoning Ordinance.
Y 4. All parking shall be off-street on space provided by
the applicant to the maximum extent feasible. On-street
parking shall be limited to two spaces in front of the
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applicant's property as the need arises.
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• w� �=5. The hours of operation shall be no more than: Monday to
- -Thursday, 6 : 30 p.m. to 9: 30 p.m. and Saturday, 10 :00
a.m. to 14.00 p.m.
The applicant shall comply with the recommendations of
the :Building Official prior to the issuance of the
Special Use Permit. _
Voting in favor: Chairman Pro tern Manson, Commissioners Malecki,
Simmons; -Ainas, Sandstrom and Versteeg. Voting against: none. The
-motion =passed unanimously.
APPLICATION NO.NO. 82020 (Hussman Investment Com an
The Secretary then introduced the next item of usiness, a request by
Hussman Investment Company to rezone from R1 to R3, two parcels of
land at 811 and 821 - 70th Avenue North and a remnant parcel presently
part of-. the City's Maintenance Annex at 69th and Dupont Avenues North.
The Secretary--reviewed the contents of the staff report (see Planning
Commission Information Sheet for Application No. 82020 attached) .
-Chairman Pro tern Manson observed that when the Hi Crest Square Estates
rezoning was --dealt with, the Planning Commission recommended that the
rezoning not be effective until the plat was filed. Commissioner
Simmons asked whether the Planning Commission could recommend the
same condition here as retell even if the applicant does not suggest it.
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The Secretary answered in the affirmative. — -
,Commissioner Simmons stated that the City has no control over the type
of development once the land has been rezoned,. as to whether the
t roject is owner-occupied or rental, or the quality of the units. The
Secretary agreed, stating that the final step is not taken until the
land to be rezoned is .actually described in the Zoning ordinance.
Commissioner Simmons alluded to a- portion of the minutes to the North-
east Neighborhood Advisory Group meeting in which the members present
preferred "quality townhouses" -over "cheap single-family houses."
Commissioner Simmons stated that with the mortgage market of today,
_ there can really be no promise that townhouses will be of high quality
any more than single-family. She asked whether the neighbors under-
stand that reality and the .fact that the City cannot control the
quality of the townhouses. Chairman Pro tern Manson stated that she
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believed that the neighbors liked the concept of an owner-occupied
development where there would be site and building plan review by the -
City Council. She stated that she felt a plat creating the individual
townhouse lots should be filed before the rezoning takes place.
Commissioner Simmons stated that she favored a plat and site and build-
ng plans to be submitted prior to the rezoning, but asked whether a
flat would actually guarantee ar_ 6wner-occupied development. The
Secretary answered that a plat would not guarantee that the project
would be owner-occupied, but that it does .set up the mechanism for the
townhouses to be- sold. In response to another question from Commtss-
ioner Simmons, Chairman Pro tem Manson explained that the procedure
of requiring a plat prior to the rezoning was discussed at the neigh-
borhood meeting. Commissioner Sandstrom stated that, based on his
knowledge of the real estate market, it is not really feasible to
build townhouses for rent at this time.
Chairman Pro tem Manson then called on the applicant to speak. Mr.
James Merila, representing Bergstrom Realty Company, stated that, of
the townhouse projects which have been subdivided, 98% of the town-
house units are owner-occupied. Commissioner Simmons stated that that
may have been the Case in the past, but that things change over time.
The Planning Assistant pointed out that the rental section of The _ ,
Ponds has been subdivided and that that project has probably not
;. been included in the figures quoted by Mr. Merila. He added that The
Popds rental section was subdivided in the anticipation that the units
would be- sold after seven years. The Secretary explained that the
rental section of The Ponds was built under a federal subsidy and
that normally subsidized townhouse units must be rental for at least
20 years, but that in this case the period was reduced to seven
years after which the units could be sold as condominiums.
issioner Simmons asked whether Hussman Investment was willing to
,fr provide site plans as a condition of%',the rezoning. Mr. Merila
answered that the applicant would-like some indication from the Plan-
<;r ;nog Commission as to whether they would approve the rezoning before
w� AAncurring the cost of developing a preliminary plat and site and
building plans. There followed a brief discussion regarding the
procedure for acting on the rezoning. The Secretary recommended
that the Planning Commission first look at how the rezoning meets, or
does not meet, the guidelines for rezonings and the Planning Commis-
sion may then indicate to the applicant that they would like to see
°a plat before acting on the rezoning.
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PUBLIC HEARING
Chairman Pro tem Manson then reopened the public hearing on Application
No. 82020 . She asked whether anyone present wished to comment on the .
application.
Mrs. Melba Evanson of 800 - 69th Avenue North stated briefly that the
property in question should remain R1. She contended that the proposal
constituted spot zoning which is forbidden under the City's Zoning
Ordinance,
Mr. Paul Rosso of. 7 Ortman Street, Minneapolis, stated that the Com-
prehensive Plan map recommending mid-density residential for the area
north of his sister's zesidence does not recommend rezoning the
property to' R3. Mr. Rosso stated that the realignment of 69th and 70th
Avenues North had not been finalized. He stated that he had attended
a MN/DOT hearing on the Highway 252 project and pointed out that
comments can still be made until July 12, 1982. Chairman Pro tem
Manson stated that the realignment of 69th and 70th is not the question
before the Planning Commission. Mr. Rosso answered that the realign-
ment is an important assumption in the request to rezone the property
to R3. He asked the Planning Commission to deny the application.
Chairman Pro tem Manson asked if there were any other questions. Mr.
Russell Fierst of Hussman Investment Company stated that the owner
would Piave no objection if the Planning Commission -asked for site,
landscaping, and platting plans before going to the City Council.
Chairman Pro tem Manson stated that she would like the rezoning, along.-
with ..the, site plans and plat, to.. come back to the Planning Commission
for approval as4'a 'package before going "to the City Council. Commiss-
loner Sandstrom stated that he concurred completely with that judgment.
The Secretary recommended that the Planning Commission discuss the
merits ot. the rezoning and then table the application until a plat
is submitted.
Commissioner Versteeg asked whether the roadway going by the property
had, in fact, been approved. The Secretary stated that the City
Council has ordered the project and is proceeding to condemn land for
right-of-way acquisition. He added that the City has approved a; .con-
ceptual plan for signals at '70th Avenue North and a cul-de-sac at
69th Avenue North. Commissioner Versteeg asked whether the rezoning
-would be approved with approval of the site plan. Chairman Pro tem
Manson explained that the rezoning and the site plan would be approved
under separate actions. Mrs. Melba Evanson stated that she has not
sold her land for right-of-way. to the City. The Assistant City
. Engineer explained that the rest of the land needed for the right-of-
way has been acquired.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Malecki seconded by Commissioner Ainas to close
. the public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
Chairman Pro tem. Manson then polled the Planning Commission as to
their feelings regarding the -proposed rezoning. Commissioner Malecki
-zstated that, as far as the guidelines for rezonings, the proposed
townhouse project would be a benefit by adding affordable housing to
the community. She added that she did not see any guidelines which
were not met by the rezoning. Chairman Pro tem Manson asked whether
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Commissioner Malecki considered the proposal spot zoning. Commis-
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signer Malecki answered that, inasmuchas the rezoning falls within
the recommendations of the Comprehensive Plan, - she did not consider
- it to be spot zoning.
Commissioner Simmons stated that she felt the rezoning was in line
l"With the long range plan recommendation for mid-density residential
development in that area. She noted the existence of an R4 develop-
ment to the east. She stated that she sympathized with the concerns
of the property owners . She added that the concerns of the property.
owners would probably be met if thd"kequirements of the Zoning
Ordinance and the conditions expressed by the Planning Commission
were met by the applicant. Commissioner Ainas stated that he had
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� ' reviewed the guidelines carefiilly' and has concluded that .the rezoning
proposal -is not spot zoning and should be approved.
Commissioner Sandstrom asked whether there was neighborhood opposition.
Chairman 'Pro tem Manson explained that, initially, all of the property
owners abutting the land in question were opposed to the rezoning.
She stated that at the last neighborhood meeting all of the neighbors
s` = recet the Evansons acquiesced to the rezoning. She explained that
066ft- of the neighbors liked the 4.ctea of the City Council review of
Fite plans which is required of an R3 development, but not in the
case of single-family. Commissioner Sandstrom stated that he did
-not consider the .proposal spot zoning.
Commissioner Versteeg asked whether Brooklyn Center has a history of
spot zoning. The Secretary answered that he was not aware that there
had been any spot zoning in Brooklyn Center since the adoption of its
Comprehensive Plan in the latter 1960 'x. He explained that spot zoning
would have to be determined by a court and he was not aware of any case
in which the City was found guilty of spot zoning. Commissioner
' Versteeg stated that he did not feel the approval of the application
. '," %would constitute spot zoning. .. He stated that he would go along with
" ,the 'ehange in zoning to R3.
Chairman Pro tem Manson stated that her initial feeling was in favor
of single-family homes of the quality that could be built for a reason-
I able price five to ten years ago: She stated that right now she felt
! ien'rezoning to R3 is proper if accompanied by a plat and site plan.
.; ACTION TABLING APPLICATION NO. 82020 (Hussman Investment Company)_
on y Commissioner Simmons seconded by Commissioner Sandstrom to
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—Application No. 82020 until the applicant returns with a plat
td. site and building plans for the land in question. Voting-in
F for: Chairman Pro tem Manson, Commissioners Malecki, Simmons,
ykv- Saftstrom, Ainas and Versteeg. Voting against: none. The motion
raMt4d unanimously.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
The Secretary briefly directed the Commission's attention to a memo-
$_. '`' ndum.prepared by the Assistant City Engineer regarding drainage
g '-;- s. He explained that the memo includes a review of three ponds
. . -s0mewhat similar to that- proposed for the Hi Crest Square Estates
`SeVelopment located .in Brooklyn Park. He also asked the Planning
Commission to review the City's ordinance requiring fencing of outdoor
� idning. pools. He stated that these considerations would be reviewed
rheft'`'the site plans- come back before the Planning Commission.
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The Secretary also pointed out that a site plan illustrating the
setback deduction had been prepared for the Planning Commission's in-
formation. He explained that the staff did not recommend-changing
the building setbacks, only eliminating the setback deduction from
the method for calculating the number of units allowed on multi-family
zoned properties.
. There followed a lengthy discussion -regarding drainage ponds. Com-
missioner Simmons expressed concern for young children possibly falling
down into the water and argued that the City should require barriers
to prevent this from happening. The Assistant City Engineer stated
that some risk is involved with any body of water and left it to the
Planning Commission to decide whether the proposed pond design repre-
sented an acceptable risk or unacceptable risk. The Secretary pointed
out that there are a lot of liabilities in life and that he was not
sure that the City has the responsibility for eliminating all risks
associated with the projects it approves. The Assistant City Engineer
stated that he was not convinced about what should be done. He ex-
plained that the memo looks at other manmade bodies of water similar
to that proposed for the Hi Crest Square Estates development. He
assured the Commission that the staff are not taking a position on
the question until they have direction from the Planning Commission
and City Council. He explained that the memo was intended purely as
an. informataonal tool.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Ainas seconded by Commissioner Malecki to
adjourn the meeting of the Planning Commission. The motion passed
unanimously. The Planning Commission adjourned at 9 ;44 p.m.
Chairman
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