HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983 06-30 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE' COUNTY OF
HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
STUDY SESSION
JUNE 30, 1983
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission met in study session and was called to order by Chairman
George Lucht at 7:31 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairman George Lucht, Commissioners Molly Mal-ecki , Nancy Manson, Lowell Ainas,
Carl Sandstrom and Donald Versteeg. Also present were Director of Planning and
Inspection Ronald Warren, Assistant City Engineer James Grube and Planning Assistant
Gary Shallcross.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - June 16, 1983
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Malecki to approve the
minutes of the June 16, 1983 Planning Commission meeting as submitted. Voting
in favor: Commissioners Malecki , Manson, Ainas, Sandstrom and Versteeg. Voting
against: none. Not Voting: Chairman Lucht, The motion passed.
APPLICATION NOS. 83026 AND 83027 (Howe, Inc.)
Following the Chairman's explanation, the Secretary introduced the first item of
business, a request for site and building plan approval to install 14 parking
stalls in the northeast corner of the site at 4821 Xerxes Avenue North. He also
reviewed Application No. 83027, a request for preliminary plat approval to combine
into one parcel the existing Howe site and a parcel vacated by the Highway De-
partment at the southwest corner of 49th -Avenue North and Brooklyn Boulevard. The
Secretary reviewed the contents of the staff reports for the applications (see
Planning Commission Information Sheets for Application Nos. 83026 and 83027 attached).
Commissioner Simmons arrived at 7:34 p.m.
Commissioner Manson inquired about the 4' high fence on top of two feet of railroad
ties. The Secretary noted that the fence and the railroad ties would be wrapped
around the southerly parking stalls to provide screening of those stalls from the
residences across 49th Avenue North.
PUBLIC HEARING (Application No. 83027)
Chairman Lucht then opened the meeting for a public hearing and asked whether
anyone present wished to speak on the application. Hearing none, he called for
a motion to close the public hearing.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Ainas seconded by Commissioner Malecki to Close the public
hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 83026 (Howe, Inc.)
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by. Commissioner Manson to recommend
approval of Application No. 83026, subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall enter into a performance agreement with a
supporting financial guarantee (in an amount to be determined
by the City Manager) prior to final . plat approval .
2. Underground irrigation shall be provided- in'all landscaped
areas within the project.
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3. 8612 curb and gutter shall be provided around the 14 parking
spaces proposed on the plan.
4. A 5' high privacy fence -shall be deemed adequate screening
if placed atop the 3' berm to provide the required. 8' of
screening. The plan shall be modified to indicate such
a 5' high opaque fence.
5. Plan approval is subject to the provisions of the stipulation
agreement entered into by Howe, Inc. and the City in resolution
of Application No. 83001.
6. Fourteen employee parking spaces west of the middle building
(granted by variance) will be discontinued for use pursuant
to the above stated agreement and will be used. exclusively
for buffer setback area in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, and for access purposes pursuant to previously
granted City Council approval .
Voting in favor: Chairman- Lucht, Commissioners Malecki , Simmons, Manson, Ainas,
Sandstrom.and Versteeg. Voting against: none. The motion passed.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 83027 (Howe, Inc. )
Motion by Commissioner Malecki seconded by Commissioner Manson to recommend
approval of Application No. 83027, subject to the following conditions:
1. The final plat is subject to review and approval by the
City Engineer.
2. The final plat is subject to the provisions of. Chapter 15
of the City Ordinances
3. Any existing easements shall be shown on the Preliminary
Plat prior to City Council approval .
Voting in favor: Chairman Lucht,. Commissioners Malecki ; Simmons, Manson, Ainas,
Sandstrom and Versteeg. Voting against: none. The motion passed:
APPLICATION NO. 83028 (Construction 70/Kentucky Fried Chicken).
The Secretary introduced the next item of business, a request for site and building
plan and special use permit approval to construct a drive-up.window and attendant
drive-up lane at the Kentucky Fried Chicken Restaurant at 5512 Brooklyn Boulevard.
The Secretary reviewed the contents of the staff report (see Planning Commission
Information Sheet for Application No. 83028 attached). ' The Secretary also explained
that a revised plan that has been submitted c.al.ls for the removal of existing curb
around the northwest corner of the site
Commissioner Simmons noted that access to the handicapped ramp could be blocked
by a car waiting in line for its turn at the drive-up window. She recommended
that a sign be placed at the median opening *indicating .pedestrian crossing so
that drivers would be obligated to leave that area open for pedestrians. The
Secretary suggested that a condition to that effect could be added. Commissioner
Simmons added that such a condition would help the non-handicapped as well as the
handicapped.
Commissioner Malecki asked whether the proposed revisions would result in the
loss of some parking stalls in front of the building. The Secretary stated that
some would be lost, but that the parking still available on the site would exceed
the parking requirements for the seating and employees in the restaurant;
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Chairman Lucht asked the applicant whether he had anything to add as far as pro-
posed landscaping. A representative of the applicant stated that Kentucky Fried
Chicken would comply with all requirements of the City. -Chairman Lucht asked
whether the site had underground irrigation in landscaped areas. Th*e applicant
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answed that underground irrigation had not been installed. Chairman Lucht
noted that such irrigation is normally required. The applicant stated that he
would install the irrigation. Commissioner Sandstrom wondered whether the irri-
gation would be needed if the applicant used crushed rock instead of grass. Chair-
man Lucht stated that shrubs would still need the irrigation. The applicant dis-
.agreed and stated he did not think shrubs would need irrigation by themselves. The
Secretary pointed out that irrigation is required in the front greenstrip as well
as in other landscaped areas.
Chairman Lucht asked the applicant what plantings would be installed. The applicant
answered that shrubs would be installed along with some boulders. He stated that
a detailed plan would be submitted prior to City Council consideration. '
PUBLIC HEARING (Application No. 83028)
Chairman Lucht then opened the meeting for a public hearing and asked whether
anyone present wished tQ speak on the application. Hearing none, he called for
a motion to close the public hearing.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Manson to close the
public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION' NO. 83028
(Construction 70/Kentucky Fried Chicken) -
Motion by Commissioner Manson seconded by Commissioner Ainas to recommend approval
of Application No. 83028, subject to the following conditions:
1. Building plans are subject' to review and approval by the
Building Official with respect to applicable codes prior
to the issuance of permits.
2. A site performance agreement and supporting financial guarantee
(in an amount to be determined by the City Manager) shall be
submitted prior to the issuance of permits to assure completion
of approved site improvements:
3. Any outside trash disposal facilities and rooftop mechanical
equipment shall be appropriately screened from view.
4. Plan approval is exclusive of all signery which is subject to
Chapter 34 of the City Ordinances.-
5. B612 curb and gutter shall be provided .around all parking and
'driving areas.
6. A landscape plan and schedule shall be submitted prior to
consideration by the City Council and underground irrigation
shall be provided in all landscaped areas.
�7. A directional sign indicating pedestrian crosswalk shall be
-installed in the median south of the building and west of the
crosswalk indicating that the crosswalk must not be blacked
to pedestrians.
Voting in favor: Chairman Lucht, Commissioners .Malecki , Simmons, Manson, Ainas,
Sandstrom and Versteeg. Voting against: none. The motion passed.
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APPLICATION NO. 83029 (Wes' Standard
The Secretary then introduced the next item of business , a request for special
use permit to sell groceries at the gas station at 6044 Brooklyn Boulevard. The
Secretary reviewed the contents of the staff report (see Planning Coruiission In-
formation Sheet for Application No. 83029 and also addendum for the same appli-
cation attached) . The Secretary-also briefly reviewed with- the Planning Commission
the possible layout of parking- stalls around the site in order to meet the re-
quirement of 23 parking stalls. He noted a discrepancy between the site sketch
that fir. Reavely had submitted and an architectural drawing made about 10 years.
previously for the car wash addition. He stated that this is one of the reasons
the Planning Commission should have an accurate, -professionally drawn plan— The
Secretary also noted that the establishment must meet the requirements of the
Health Inspector in order to obtain a food establishment license and a special
handler's license for the sale of various food items. He added that no .such
licenses have been granted to the operation, therefore, no retail sales of food '
of any kind can be done on the premises until the licenses and special use permit
are obtained.
Commissioner Simmons stated that it should be easy for customers to get in and out
of the parking stalls. She suggested that the out-of-the way stalls be reserved
for employee parking only. The Secretary agreed and pointed out certain areas
where employees should probably park and other areas where customers would be able
to park. Commissioner Simmons stated that when there isn't enough parking, it is
a real problem trying to maneuver within a small lot such as this. She stated that
the site plan should be carefully thought out and provide generous parking. She
recommended that all of the required stalls be put in and that no proof-of-parking
be approved.
Chairman Lucht then asked the applicant whether he had anything to say. fir. Reavely
began by saying that he felt like an accused criminal , but acknowledged bringing
in items for retail sale before obtaining- the necessary license and. permit. He
asked what the term proof-of-parking meant. -The Secretary explained that proof-of-
parking is when a plan shows that there. is room on the site for the required parking
stalls, but they may not necessarily be installed. Mr. Reavely stated that he had
drawn the site sketch from directions given.-hi.m by Mr. Warren .as to parking stall
size. He stated that most of the traffic entering his station is coming from the
south and that there would be no problem with the angle parking stalls on the north
side of the site. He went over the sketch he had prepared showing -the various
parking stalls including some parallel stalls behind the building and along the
north side of the site which he said were 20' in length. He stated that he did not
understand the necessity of 24.' wide driving lanes. He also asserted that parking
at the gas -pumps would have to be counted because 90% of his -sales would probably
be to gas customers.
Commissioner Simmons pointed to parking stalls No. 12 and 13 on the site sketch
and asked how the cars parked would have to get out. fir. Reavely acknowledged
that at least one would probably have to head in the direction of the car wash,
but he stated that this was an area where employees would park. There followed
a lengthy discussion regarding the various parking stalls and how people would
be able to make use of the stalls.
Commissioner Simmons asked fir. Reavely about moving curbs and providing all of
the parking required under the ordinance. fir. Reavely stated that he felt the
parking spaces are on the site already. He argued that the Secretary only assumes
that the measurements are inaccurate. He challenged the Secretary to come to the
site and check his measurements. Chairman Lucht stated that the accuracy of the
measurements could not be verified based on the sketch -that was presented to the
Planning Commission. He stated that the Planning Commission regularly requires
accurate drawings. fair. Reavely then explained how he had obtained some of his
measurements. The Planning Assistant explained that the mode of operation when
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the Planning Commission considers site plan applications is to have a professionally
drawn site plan with accurate measurements. He stated that such plans should be
developed by professional architects or engineers who are-trained to develop accurate
drawings and should not be roughly drawn plans with no accurate scale.
Mr. Reavely asked the Commission to make a recommendation rather than table the
matter so that he could go to the City Council with his plan as submitted. Chairman
Lucht asked for a recommendation from the Secretary. The Secretary stated that he
did not feel the Planning Commission could make a proper decision on the application
without an accurately drawn site plan. He recommended that the Planning Commission
table the application and direct the applicant to submit a professionally drawn plan
to verify that the required parking can be provided on the site. Mr. Reavely com-
plained that he felt that his integrity had been challenged and that he had been
called a liar by the Secretary. He asked the .Chairman what the action of the Planning
Commission would be. Chairman Lucht stated that he felt the Planning Commission would
probably table the application as recommended by the' staff. . Mr. Reavely.resigned
himself to the action of the Planning Commission and walked out of the Council Chambers.
ACTION RECOMMENDING CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING
APPLICATION NO. 83029 (Wes' Standard)
Following a brief discussion of the procedures in handling the application, there
was a motion by Commissioner Simmons seconded by Commissioner Manson to continue
the public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Simmons asked whether the Planning Commission had to take any action
regarding the sale of food at the premises. The Secretary stated that the staff
would pursue that matter through the Sanitarian and the Police Department.
Chairman Lucht asked whether cars parked at the gas pumps could be considered as
some o-f the parking stalls required by the ordinance. The Secretary answered that
realistically .he understood that a number of the customers would be gas customers
also, but he pointed out that the ordinance .spec fically requires parking based on
two separate parking formulas, one far service stations and another for retail uses
and that pump island parking has not been considered as meeting these requirements.
He-explained that it was his understanding that the case involving the Super America
at 57th and Logan resulted in the City adopting requirements for parking based on ,
the two specific ordinance formulas. He also- noted that tandem parking is not
acknowledged by the Zoning Ordinance as meeting parking requirements.
Commissioner Simmons stated that she felt all required parking should be installed,
especially in light of the fact that a number of the stalls would not really be
evident to people coming into the station. Commissioner Sandstrom stated that he
felt the situation was different from a Super Valu store or other large retail
operations, in that people are getting gas at the same time they may be getting
other food items. Commissioner Simmons countered that quite often people will
get gas and go into the store and chit-chat with their friends for awhile and get
something to drink and that this results in a parking problem. The Secretary
pointed out that the gas station in question was.on Brooklyn Boulevard which is a
heavily traveled street. He stated that congestion on the lot could easily back
up onto Brooklyn Boulevard which would have a greater impact in this case than in
the case of the Super America station at 57th and Logan. He also pointed out that
the Planning Commission could not control the number of goods that would be in the
store after a special use permit is granted. He explained that Mr. Reavely could .
expand the area used for selling groceries and sell a wide array of items which
are not presently being contemplated.- Commissioner Ainas agreed and pointed to
the Holiday Station on Brooklyn Boulevard in Brooklyn Park. He stated that this
station presents problems and that he did not want Wes' .Standard. to present the
same kind of problem in Brooklyn Center.
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ACTION TABLING APPLICATION NO. 83029 (tees ' Standard)
Motion by Commissioner Simmons seconded by Commissioner Malecki to table Application
No. 83029 and direct the applicant to have a professionally drawn plan prepared and
submitted to show required parking on the site. Voting in favor: Chairman Lucht,
Commissioners Malecki ,, Simmons , Manson, Ainas, Sandstrom and Versteeg. Voting
against: none. The motion passed.
RECESS
The Planning Commission recessed at 9:10 p.m. and resumed at 9:31 p.m.
Commissioner Simmons left the meeting during the recess.
APPLICATION NO. 83030 (Brutger Companies, Inc. )
The Secretary then introduced the next item of business, a request for preliminary
plat approval to subdivide into 32 .townhouse lots and one common lot,.the parcel of
land at the northwest corner of Dupont Avenue North and North Lilac Drive. The
Secretary reviewed the contents of the staff report (see Planning Commission Informa
. tion Sheet for Application No. 83030 attached) . The Assistant City Engineer added
that the plat shows that the outside walls of the townhouse units will coincide with
the property lines and that there will be no extra yard area within a townhouse lot.
The Secretary also added that the final plat would not have to be filed prior to
issuance of building permits, although the plat for the Brookwood Residences did
have to be filed prior to the issuance of building permits.
Commissioner Manson asked whether this plat would change the legal description
of the other two lots in the Brookwood Residences Addition. The Secretary responded _
in the negative.
Chairman Lucht then asked the applicant whether he had anything to add. Mr. Tom -
Johnson of Brutger Companies, Inc. stated that he had nothing to add to the
presentation. Commissioner Sandstrom asked why there would be only one handicapped
unit in the townhouse unit. The Secretary pointed out that there would' be two
handicapped townhouse units, one in each of the Building C':s.
PUBLIC HEARING (Application No. 83030)
Chairman Lucht then opened the meeting for a public hearing and asked whether
anyone present wished to speak. 'Hearing none, he called for a motion to close .
the public hearing.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Malecki to close the
public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 83030 (Brutger Companies, Inc.)
Motion by Commissioner Ainas seconded by Commissioner Versteeg to recommend approval
of Application No. 83030, subject to the foll-owing conditions:
1. The final plat is subject to review and approval by the
City Engineer.
2. The final plat is subject to the provisions of Chapter 15
of the City Ordinances.
3. The Homeowners' Association documents shall be submitted to
the City Attorney for review and approval prior to final plat
approval .
Voting in favor: Chairman Lucht, Commissioners Malecki , Manson, Ainas, Sandstrom
and Versteeg. Voting against: none. The motion passed unanimously.
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APPLICATION 140. 83031 (Brookdaie Car Wash) .
The Secretary then introduced the next item of business, •a request for site and -
building plan and special use permit approval to expand the car wash at 5500
Brooklyn Boulevard. The Secretary reviewed the contents of the staff report
(see Planning Commission Information Sheet for Application No. 83031 attached).
Commissioner Sandstrom asked whether any gas pumps were being taken out at the
car wash.- The Secretary responded in the .negative and pointed out the location
of the gas pumps.
Chairman Lucht then called on the applicant to speak. Mr. Steve Graham, the owner
of Brookdale Car Wash, stated that he was ready to comply with the City's requirements.
However, he asked whether variances have ever been granted from the fire sprinkler
requirements. The Secretary responded that he- was not aware that any variances
have ever been granted. Mr. Graham stated that he did not feel that he really
needs a fire sprinkling system in his car wash. Chairman Lucht stated that fire
sprinkling is something that has been required of many other businesses. Mr. Graham
pointed out that there are a number of other large car washes in the metro area with
which he has to compete and which do not have fire sprinkling apparatus.
The Secretary pointed out that the State Building Code has been amended to re-
quire sprinkling in all commercial and industrial buildings over 3,000 sq. ft. ,
but that this requirement is optional if adopted by a local community. The Secretary
also pointed out that there are other possibilities for fire besides during working
hours when the water would be flowing in the car wash. He also noted that a fire
sprinkling system allows a greater response time for. the Fire Department to contain
a fire. Mr. Graham stated that he could close down his car wash for three days and
that his car wash bay would still be damp.. He stated that he could understand the
requirement for sprinkling office areas and storage areas, but he added that he felt
it was-a waste of money to sprinkle the car wash area. He stated that this require-
ment affected his competitiveness with other car washes and stated that he would like
an exemption from having to sprinkle.the car. wash area.
Commissioner Ainas noted that people often say roughly the same thing about bath-
rooms, but, he pointed out, there are combustible materials within bathrooms and
within-car wash bays as well . He stated that these combustible materials are
always present, even when the car wash is shut down. The Secretary concluded by
saying that the applicant did have a right to submit a variance request. He added,
however, that he thought the likelihood of its being approved was fairly slim.
Mr. Graham asked about the condition regarding signery. The Secretary explained
that the Planning Commission was not disallowing the signery, but only excluding
it from its action of approval . He explained that the sign appeared to be within
the limits of the Sign Ordinance and explained that a sign permit could be granted
for the sign apart from any Planning Commission or City Council approval .
Commissioner Sandstrom asked whether the State Building Code regulations do not
supersede .the City regulations. Commissioner -Ainas stated that the City regulations
can supersede- if they are more stringent. Commissioner Sandstrom stated that the
Bermel Smaby building on Brooklyn Boulevard is an 8,500 sq. ft. building, that
cannot burn and yet it is sprinklered. The Secretary explained that fire sprinkling
is required as part of the City's Fire Code, not under the Building Code. He ex-
plained that the State Building Code had been amended to allow Cities to adopt a
requirement for fire sprinklers in commercial and industrial buildings over 3,000 sq. ft.
PUBLIC HEARING (Application No. 83031)
Chairman Lucht then opened the meeting fora public hearing and asked whether anyone
present wished to speak on the application. Seeing none-, he called for a motion to
close the public hearing.
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CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Versteeg to close the
public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 83031 (Brookdale Car Wash)
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom.secon e y Commissioner Manson to recommend
approval of Application No. 83031, subject to the following conditions:
1. -Building plans are subject to review a-nd approval by the
Building Official with respect to applicable codes prior to
the issuance of permits.
2. Grading, drainage, utility and berming plans are subject to
review and approval by the City Engineer, prior to the issuance
of permits..
3. A site performance agreement and supporting financial guarantee
(in an amount to be determined by the City Manager) shall be
submitted prior to the issuance of permits to assure completion
of approved site improvements.
4. The building is to be equipped with an automatic fire ex-
tinguishing system to meet NFPA standards and shall be
connected to a central monitoring device in accordance with
Chapter 5 of the City Ordinances.
5. B612 curb and gutter shall be provided around all parking and
driving areas.
6. Plan approval is exclusive of all signery which Is subject to
Chapter 34 of the City Ordinances.
Voting in favor: Chairman Lucht, Commissioners Malecki , Manson, Ainas, Sandstrom
and Versteeg. Voting against: none. *The motion passed unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Manson seconded by Commissioner Versteeg to adjourn the
meeting of the Planning Commission. The motion passed unanimously. The Planning
Commission adjourned at 10:10 p.m.
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