HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985 01-31 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF
HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
STUDY SESSION
JANUARY 31 , 1985
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission met in study session and was called to order by Chairman
George Lucht at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairman George Lucht, Commissioners Nancy.Manson, Lowell Ainas, Mike Nelson and
Wallace Bernards. Also present were Director of Planning and Inspection Ronald
Warren, Director of Public Works Sy Knapp, and Planner Gary Shallcross. Chairman
Lucht noted that Commissioner Molly Malecki had called to say that she would be
unable to attend the evening's meeting and was excused. He stated he was not sure
where Commissioner Sandstrom was.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES _ January 17, 1985
Motion by Commissioner Ainas seconded by Commissioner Manson to approve the minutes
of the January 17, 1985 Planning Commission meeting as submitted. Voting in favor:
Chairman Lucht, Commissioners Manson, Ainas, Nelson and Bernards. Voting against:
none. The motion passed.
APPLICATION NO. 84036 (City of Brooklyn Park)
Following the Chairman's explanation, the Secretary introduced the first item of
business, a request by the City of Brooklyn Park for special use permit approval to
conduct a ditch dredging project in the flood plain within the Crystal Airport
property, south of 62nd Avenue North. The Secretary reviewed the contents of the
Planning staff report and referred the Commission's attention to the report of the
Director of Public Works which explained the project in greater detail. He pointed
out the location of the project on an overhead transparency and reviewed the factors
relevant to this application contained in Section 35-2184 of the Zoning Ordinance.
He concluded by saying that the staff feel that these factors are met and that the
application can be approved.
The Director of Public Works then showed the,Planning Commission the location of the
entire project on a map of Brooklyn Center and surrounding areas. He pointed out
that the ditch dredging project would begin at 63rd Avenue North and continue
southeast to a point somewhere in the Environmental Preserve in Crystal north of
Bass Lake Road. The Director of Public Works explained that the ditch dredging
project would cause more water to arrive at an earlier time downstream and that this
would have an effect of raising the flood levels slightly in Twin Lakes and in Ryan
Lake. He traced the flow of water from the ditch into Twin Lakes, Ryan Lake, and
eventually into Shingle Creek.
The Director of Public Works stated that the primary staff concern was regarding the
impact on the Twin Lakes area. He stated that staff had initially suggested that a
holding pond be built on the airport property to allow better drainage in Brooklyn
Park without increasing flood levels downstream. He explained that this option was
rejected by the Metropolitan Airports Commission as an unsafe feature at the
airport. He stated that the staff then suggested a minimimum ditch with a flatter
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grade from 63rd Avenue North to the Environmental Preserve. Brooklyn Park rejected
this option, he stated, because of potential maintenance problems with a backup of
silt in the drainage ditch.
The Director of Public Works explained that he had asked for a hydrologic analysis of
the project and that he had received reports prepared by the U. S. Geological Service
and also by Barr Engineering. He explained that the U.S.G.S report concluded that
the rise in flood level in Twin Lake would be less than .1 of a foot. He pointed out
that the Barr Engineering study was more detailed and concluded that the effect
would be a rise of less than .01 of a foot. He stated that the Planning Commission
would have to consider this effect and determine whether it was an acceptable
increase in flood level. He stated that it was acceptable to him, but that if the
increase in the flood level had been closer to .1 of a foot; he would have serious
concerns about the project, considering the problems with flooding that have been
experienced in the Twin Lake area.
Commissioner Bernards asked what time period the 1/8 inch rise would be over. The
Director of Public Works explained that a five year flood would raise the level of
Twin Lakes by two to three feet. He pointed out that the project would add 1/8 of an
inch to this rise in the level of Twin Lakes. He stated that it was, therefore, a
fairly insignificant effect on downstream flood levels.
The Director of Public Works then pointed out the Environmental Preserve on an
aerial photograph and noted the existence of a boardwalk from Brooklyn Center into
Crystal. He stated that the project should end north of this boardwalk, but
recommended a condition that would require the construction of a pedestrian bridge
by the City of Brooklyn Park if the project continues past the location of the
boardwalk.
Commissioner Bernards asked whether the project would cause problems in the
Environmental Preserve. The Director of Public Works explained that the main
problem from the ditch dredging project would be siltation if the ditch is too flat.
He reviewed with the Commission a centerline profile of the ditch project. In
response to a question from Chairman Lucht, the Secretary explained that the spoils
from the ditch dredging project would be spread alternately on each side of the bank,
but would be contained within the airport property.
Chairman Lucht asked the applicant whether he had anything to add. Mr. George
Calebaugh, representing the City of BrookIyn Park, stated that he had nothing to add
to the report.
PUBLIC HEARING (Application No. 84036)
Chairman Lucht then opened the meeting for a public hearing and asked whether anyone
wished to speak regarding the application. Mr. George Nass of 5313 62nd Avenue
North stated that he had lived in the area for some years and pointed out that he has a
fence along the side of his property that may have to be raised if the project is
done and ground levels are raised. He stated that replacement of the fence should
be paid for by the City of Brooklyn Park since they are doing the project. The
Director of Public Works explained that the plan for the project calls for lowering
the grade, not raising it. He suggested, however, that a condition could be added
that,if fences adjacent to the project are adversely affected, the applicant will
pay for their replacement.
Commissioner Manson asked whether the ditch would be wide enough so that the spoils
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will be below the existing grade. The Director of Public Works stated that the
grade immediately next to the ditch would have to be raised in order to lower the
bottom of the ditch, but that alternating the placement of the spoils should prevent
any dyking from occurring.
Mr. Walt Walker of 6133 Scott Avenue North asked how deep the ditch would be. The
Director of Public Works answered that it would be about two feet deep. Mr. Walker
asked when the project would be started and completed. Mr. Calebaugh answered that
Brooklyn Park hopes to start the project by March 1 in order to finish while there is
still frost in the ground. Mr. Walker explained that the area is a wildlife habitat
and that ducks come to nest as early as March and added that he preferred an early
completion to the project.
Mr. Jack Kelly of 6129 Scott Avenue North asked about a fencing project around the
airport. The Secretary answered that it is the staff's understanding that nothing
will be done on that fencing project until the ditch project is done. He explained
that the fence would have to be kept back behind setback lines if it is higher than
four feet and that the fence may not be placed on the northeast side of the ditch
anyway. He explained that barbed wire is not prohibited and added that there would be
problems with the Flood Plain Ordinance if the airport fence did cross the ditch.
Mr. George Nass asked whether there would be notice given before the fence was
erected. The Secretary explained that there is no formal mechanism for notifying
property owners regarding the erection of the fence. He stated that the airport has
the right to put up a fence as much as any property owner. He added, however, that if
the City is informed about the project, that it would let residents know.
Mr. Walker asked how long the project would take. Mr. Calebaugh stated that it
would be about three weeks.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Hearing no further comments, Chairman Lucht called for a motion to close the public
hearing. Motion by Commissioner Nelson seconded by Commissioner Manson to close
the public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 84036 (Brooklyn Park)
Motion by Commissioner Ainas seconded by Commissioner Nelson to recommend approval
of Application No. 84036, subject to the following conditions:
1 . If the project results in construction of a ditch crossing
under the existing boardwalk which crosses the "Environmental
Preserve" area, Brooklyn Park shall construct a pedestrian
bridge meeting the approval of the Brooklyn Center Director of
Public Works and the Crystal City Engineer at no cost to the City
of Brooklyn Center or to the City of Crystal.
2. Upon completion of the project, the City of Brooklyn Park shall
submit to the Brooklyn Center Director of Public Works a center
line profile along the route of the constructed channel, showing
an "as built" profile of the bottom of the ditch after
construction.
3. The expiration date for the permit shall be April 1, 1986.
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4. Any damage to existing fences adjacent to the project caused by
the ditch dredging project will be repaired at the expense of the
City of Brooklyn Park.
Voting in favor: Chairman Lucht, Commissioners Manson, Ainas, Nelson and Bernards.
Voting against: none. The motion passed.
There followed a brief discussion of upcoming business items for the February 14,
1985 meeting. Commissioner Manson stated that she would be unable to attend the
February 14 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Nelson seconded by Commissioner Ainas to adjourn the meeting
of the Planning Commission. The motion passed unanimously. The Planning
Commission adjourned at 8:24 p.m.
Ch irman
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