HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985 10-10 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENER IN THE COUNTY OF
HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
REGULAR SESSION
OCTOBER 10, 1985
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission met in regular session and was called to order by Chairman
Pro tem Nancy Manson at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairman Pro tem Nancy Manson, Commissioners Molly Malecki, Lowell Ainas, Carl
Sandstrom, Mike Nelson and Wallace Bernards. Also present were Director of
Planning and Inspection Ronald Warren, City Engineer Bo Spurrier and Planner Gary
Shallcross. Chairman Lucht had notified the Commission he would not be present and
was excused.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - September 26, 1985
Motion by Commissioner Nelson seconded by Commissioner Sandstrom to approve the
minutes of the September 26, 1985 Planning Commission meeting as submitted. Voting
in favor: Chairman Pro tem Manson, Commissioners Malecki, Sandstrom, Nelson and
Bernards. Voting against: none. Not voting: Commissioner Ainas. The motion
passed.
APPLICATION NO. 85027 (Foundation Stone Ministries, Inc.)
Following the Chairman's explanation, the Secretary introduced the first item of
business, a request for site and building plan and special use permit approval to
construct a church with seating capacity of 800 at the southwest corner of I-94 and
Brooklyn Boulevard. The Secretary reviewed the contents of the staff report (see
Planning Commission Information Sheet for Application No. 85027 attached) .
Regarding the landscape plan, the Secretary noted that there are no quantative
standards in the ordinance for the number of plantings. The Secretary also
explained that a traffic counter had been put down in the southbound lane of Brooklyn
Boulevard over the last weekend. He stated that the traffic counts do show an
increase around Sunday noon. The Secretary concluded that he believed the
Standards for a Special Use Permit can be met in this case and that traffic is not a
reason to deny the application. The City Engineer then explained in further detail
the layout-of the proposed drainage system and stated that it was designed according
to the City's standards. Regarding traffic, the City Engineer pointed out that,
although the traffic on Brooklyn Boulevard at noon on Sundays is fairly heavy, it is
still not as heavy as the weekday evening rush hour traffic. He stated that the
addition of the church at this period of time would still live within the capacity of
Brooklyn Boulevard.
PUBLIC HEARING (Application No. 85027)
Chairman Pro tem Manson then reopened the public hearing on the special use permit
for Foundation Stone Ministries, Inc. She stated that the public hearing had
previously been closed and that only new information or questions should be
submitted at this time.
Esther Jensen of 4213 66th Avenue North inquired as to the sidewalk on the west side
of Brooklyn Boulevard and what would happen to it as a result of the plan. The Planner
pointed out that it was still indicated on the plan. Mr. Dennis Batty explained
that the sidewalk would be relocated westward with the installation of the
deceleration lane.
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Pat Johnson of 4207 66th Avenue North asked about the covenant on the houses in the
area south of the church site. The Secretary answered that the City has received
conflicting opinions from different attorneys as to whether the covenants effecting
j the houses to the south are still in effect.
(The covenants prohibit any use of the
property other than for single-family residential.) Mrs. Johnson stated that the
covenant should stay in effect until it is released by the owners of property in the
subdivision. She stated that no one in the area has signed a release of the
covenant. There followed a discussion of the effect of the covenants on
development of the church site. The Secretary pointed out that the covenant does
not apply to the church site itself and that the existence of the covenant does not
prevent the City from urging the church to acquire additional lots for improving
access, even if it means attempting to undo the covenant for those lots.
Chairman Pro tem Manson asked whether anyone else wished to speak regarding the
application. Hearing none, she called for a motion to close the public hearing.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Nelson seconded by Commissioner Sandstrom to close the
public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Bernards asked how traffic would make its movement into the site if
cars were coming from the south. The Secretary responded that cars coming to the
site from the south would make a U turn at the signal at the intersection of the
freeway ramps and Brooklyn Boulevard.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 85027 (Foundation Stone
Ministries, Inc.)
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Ainas to recommend
approval of Application No. 85027, subject to the following conditions:
1. Building plans are subject to review and approval by the Building
Official with respect to applicable codes prior to the issuance
of permits.
2. Grading, drainage, utility and berming plans are subject to
review and and approval by the City Engineer, prior to the
issuance of permits.
3• A site performance agreement and supporting financial guarantee
(in an amount to be determined by the City Manager) shall be
submitted prior to the issuance of permits to assure completion
of approved site improvements.
4. Any outside trash disposal facilities and rooftop mechanical
equipment shall be appropriately screened from view.
5. The building is to be equipped with an automatic fire
extinguishing system to meet NFPA standards and shall be
connected to a central monitoring device in accordance with the
requirements of the Uniform Building Code, Chapter 3802 b.
6. Plan approval is exclusive of all signery which is subject to
Chapter 34 of the City Ordinances.
7. B612 curb and gutter shall be provided around all parking and
driving areas.
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8. Access to the church site shall be right-in/right-out only. The
median in Brooklyn Boulevard shall be extended in accordance with
the recommendations of the City Engineer and Hennepin County.
Access to the site from 66th and Indiana shall be prohibited.
9. A deceleration lane on the outside of the southbound lane of
Brooklyn Boulevard shall be installed in accordance with the
recommendations of the City Engineer and Hennepin County.
10. The special use permit is subject to all applicable codes,
ordinances and regulations and any violation thereof shall be
grounds for revocation.
11. The permit is issued to the applicant and is nontransferable.
12. Plan approval in no way commits the City to acceptance of the
conceptual master plan submitted with the development plans for
the church. Future additions shall be subject to an amendment of
the Special Use Permit and conformance to City requirements
through the site and building plan process.
13• The site shall be bounded on all sides adjacent to single-family
residences and to Indiana Avenue North right-of-way with a
minimum 6' high wood fence for both screening and security
purposes.
14. An as-built survey of all site utilities shall be submitted to the
Engineering Department prior to release of the performance
guarantee.
15. The applicant is encouraged to acquire the lots adjacent to the
site to the south along Brooklyn Boulevard in order to move the
access as far from the intersection of I-94 and Brooklyn
Boulevard as possible.
16. Site lighting shall conform to the requirements of Section 35-712
of the Zoning Ordinance.
17. The applicant shall obtain a temporary construction easement for
regrading of the north portion of the lots of 4024 and 4100 65th
Avenue North prior to the issuance of permits, or construct
additional catch basins between 4024 and 4100 65th Avenue North.
18. - The landscape plan shall be modified to indicate sod in all green
areas of the site prior to the issuance of permits.
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Voting in favor: Chairman Pro tem Manson, Commissioners Malecki, Manson,
Sandstrom, Ainas and Nelson. The motion passed unanimously.
APPLICATION NO. 85032 (Arby's)
The Secretary then introduced the next item of business, a request for a variance
from Section 34-140, Subsection 3a:lb of the Sign Ordinance to allow a tenant
identification wall sign on the canopy above the northwest entrance to Brookdale
Mall and not on the exterior wall space of the Arby's tenant space. The Secretary
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explained that individual tenant signs at Brookdale would have to come down if a
collective identification sign band were put up. He explained the collective
identification wall sign at Westbrook Mall which provides identification signery
for tenants not having exterior wall space.
Chairman Pro tem Manson asked the applicant whether he had anything to add. Mr.
Chuck Nadler of Arby's stated that he felt the situation is unique and that a
variance is justified. He showed the Planning Commission a floor plan of tenant
spaces in the northwest area of Brookdale and a rendering of the proposed Arby's
sign. He stated that the sign would be the same size as the T. J. ApplebeeIs sign on
the same canopy. He explained that the sign would be lit while the Arby's
Restaurant was open and that this would have the effect of advertising the hours of
operation.
Commissioner Bernards asked what was the attitude of the Brookdale Center
Management. Mr. Nadler stated that the sign was acceptable to them and introduced
Mr. Chris Cummins of the Center Companies. Commissioner Nelson asked how many
tenants have exterior walls at Brookdale. Mr. Cummins stated that about 30% of the
the tenants have exterior walls and that 70% do not. The Secretary asked about the
hours of other tenants. W. Cummins stated that because of lease renewal
agreements coming up at this time, it was unlikely that the hours of the operation
would change significantly for any of the other tenants for the foreseeable future.
Regarding a collective identification sign, Mr. Cummins stated that the center
would not pursue such a possibility. He stated that the Center Management and
ownership prefer to minimize the amount of signery on the exterior walls.
The Secretary asked about the possibility of another restaurant in the center. Mr.
Cummins stated that the center is close to 10% of the floor area devoted to
restaurants right now, excluding the department stores, and that there is no desire
to have another restaurant in the center. Chairman Pro tem Manson asked about the
possibility of a drug store perhaps wanting to have longer hours. Mr. Cummins
stated that there would be no other drug store tenants besides Snyder Brothers.
There followed a brief discussion in which the Secretary and Mr. Cummins discussed
the uniqueness of the Arby's situation relative to other tenants in Brookdale,
including Rocky Rococo's. The Secretary asked whether Arby's sign is intended to
appeal to Xerxes Avenue. Mr. Nadler responded in the negative and stated that the
sign would attempt to appeal to people on their way to McDonalds. The Secretary
pointed out that McDonalds is on Xerxes Avenue. Mr. Nadler showed the Planning
Commission a site plan of the Brookdale Shopping Center and stated that he wanted to
let people know that Arby's was open, which they would probably not realize if there
was no sign, he said. The Secretary stated that Arby's would receive a fair amount of
business simply from being located in the Brookdale Shopping Center.
There followed further discussion as to the merits of the Sign Variance request.
Commissioner Sandstrom stated that he felt the applicant's argument was valid and
that a lighted sign would indicate to the public when the restaurant would be open.
Commissioner Ainas agreed. He stated that, because of the unique hours of the '
restaurant and the lack of wall exposure, the Arby's restaurant does experience a-
legitimate hardship.
PUBLIC HEARING (Application No. 85032)
Chairman Pro tem Manson then opened the meeting for a public hearing and asked
whether anyone present wished to speak regarding the application. Hearing none,
she called for a motion to close the public hearing.
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CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Nelson to close the
public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Sandstrom stated that restaurants are becoming a more common thing in
enclosed shopping malls. He noted that there is an Arby's Restaurant in Southdale
and its location has a good view that can appeal to people outside the shopping mall.
The Planner noted that the primary reason for the uniqueness claimed in this case was
the hours of operation. He asked what would happen if the hours were to change back
to the normal center hours and the situation would, therefore, no longer be unique.
Mr. Doug Kennedy of Arby's stated that the hours of operation of Arby's Restaurant at
other shopping malls have not been reduced after some time in operation.
Chairman Pro tem Manson asked whether a sign indicating Arby's with the hours of the
mall entrance would be a permitted sign. The Secretary stated that such a sign
would be permitted if it was informational or directional in nature and not an
identification sign. He stated that the Arby's name would have to be incidental and
not the primary focus of such a sign. Chairman Pro tem Manson asked about the status
of the T. J. Applebee's sign. The Secretary explained that T. J. Applebee's does
have exterior wall space and can legally put an identification sign on the wall.
Commissioner Malecki asked whether the Commission should allow an exterior sign for
every tenant that has extra hours. Mr. Chris Cummins stated that the owners of the
shopping center do not want signs on the exterior at all. He stated that this
particular situation is unique. Chairman Pro tem Manson asked about the operating
agreements between the center and existing tenants that might change over time or
with new ownership. Mr. Cummins stated that the operating agreements would stay in
effect even with new owners.
Chairman Pro tem Manson stated that the Commission had to be concerned regarding the
possible precedent that would be set by granting the variance. Commissioner Ainas
stated that the hours of business are different for these restaurants which
typically have later hours than a retail business whether located in an enclosed
mall or not. He suggested that the Commission note the type of business involved
and the uniqueness of the hours of operation in action recommending approval. The
Secretary pointed out that Arby's could still stay open after hours if they did not
have a wall sign. Commissioner Ainas acknowledged this, but stated that he felt
that, because of the type of business involved and the particular location within an
enclosed mall, the applicants do have a legitimate hardship. Mr. Nadler of Arby's
stated that he would probably shrink the extraordinary hours of the restaurant if no
exterior sign were possible.
Chairman Pro tem Manson then reviewed the Standards for a Sign Variance.
Commissioner Sandstrom stated that he felt that all of the standards were met in this
case and that a variance can legitimately be granted. Chairman Pro tem Manson asked
whether there were any other comments from the Commission. Hearing none, she
called for a motion regarding the application.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 85032 (Arby's)
Mlotion by Commissioner Ainas seconded by Commissioner Sandstrom to recommend
approval of Application No. 85032 on the grounds that the hours of operation are
unique and the type of business (a restaurant) within an enclosed shopping mall
creates a situation of hardship. Voting in favor: Chairman Pro tem Manson,
Commissioners Malecki, Ainas, Sandstrom, Nelson and Bernards. Voting against:
none. The motion passed.
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APPLICATION NO. 85033 (Zantigo's)
The Secretary then introduced the last item of business, a request for site and
building plan and special use permit approval to construct an 82 seat Zantigo's
Restaurant with a drive-up window at 5532 Brooklyn Boulevard. The Secretary
reviewed the contents of the staff report (see Planning Commission Information
Sheet for Application No. 85033 attached). The Secretary also noted that the
drive-up traffic leaving the site would be intermittent and that there would be
possibilities for other cars leaving the site to get out and make turns without major
conflict with the drive-up traffic. The Secretary also strongly recommended that
sod be provided in the interior sideyard greenstrips.
Commissioner Sandstrom asked whether the interior greenstrips had raised berms and
expressed concern that car bumpers would cut into such a berm and kill the grass.
The Secretary responded that the side interior green areas are flat.
Chairman Pro tem Manson asked the applicant whether he had anything to add. Mr. K.
C. George of Zantigo's Restaurant stated that he had nothing to add.
PUBLIC HEARING (Application No. 85033)
Chairman Pro tem Manson then opened the public hearing and asked whether anyone
present wished to speak regarding the application. Hearing none, she called for a
motion to close the public hearing.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Motion by Commissioner Nelson seconded by Commissioner Ainas to close the public
hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
Chairman Pro tem Manson asked the applicant if he was aware of the conditions
regarding amending the plan to show sod in the interior greenstrips and a landscaped
parking delineator on the south side of the site. Mr. K. C. George stated that those
conditions would pose no problem.
ACTION RECO14 ENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 85033 (Zantigo's)
Motion by Commissioner Ainas seconded by Commissioner Nelson to recommend approval
of Application No. 85033 subject to the following conditions:
1. Building plans are subject to review and approval by the Building
Official with respect to applicable codes prior to the issuance
of permits.
2. Grading, drainage, utility and berming plans are subject to
review and approval by the City Engineer, prior to the issuance of
permits.
3. A site performance agreement and supporting financial guarantee
(in an amount to be determined by the City Manager) to assure
completion of approved site improvements shall be submitted
_ prior to the issuance of permits.
4. Any outside trash disposal facilities and rooftop mechanical
equipment shall be appropriately screened from view.
5. The building is to be equipped with an automatic fire
extinguishing system to meet NFPA standards and shall be
connected to a central monitoring device in accordance with
Chapter 5 of the City Ordinances.
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6. An underground irrigation system shall be installed in all
landscaped areas to facilitate site maintenance.
7. Plan approval is exclusive of all signery which is subject to
Chapter 34 of the City Ordinances.
8. B612 curb and gutter shall be provided around all parking and
driving areas.
9. The special use permit is subject to all applicable codes,
ordinances, and regulations and any violation thereof shall be
grounds for revocation.
10. The plans shall be modified prior to consideration by the City
Council to provide the following:
a. A curbed and landscaped delineator between the 900 and
45 ° stalls on the south side of the parking lot.
b. Indication of sod rather than rock mulch in the interior
side yard greenstrips.
11. On-site traffic control signery shall be subject to review and
approval by the City Engineer.
12. A copy of an as-built utility survey shall be submitted to the
Engineering Department prior to release of the performance
guarantee.
Voting in favor: Chairman Pro tem Manson, Commissioners Malecki, Ainas,
Sandstrom, Nelson and Bernards. Voting against: none. The motion passed.
DISCUSSION ITEM (P.U.D. Ordinance)
The Secretary distributed copies of a draft Planned Unit Development Ordinance and
told the Commission that he had nothing to present on the ordinance this evening, but
encouraged the Commission to look into the ordinance for future discussion.
Commissioner Malecki noted some provisions regarding signery and approval of a sign
package with a Planned Unit Development proposal. She wondered whether this would
conflict with the Sign Ordinance. The Secretary stated that the Commission could,
look at different restrictions on the signery with each Planned Unit Development or
it could simply follow the present ordinance. He stated a slight preference for
continuing with the present ordinance.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Sandstrom seconded by Commissioner Ainas to adjourn the r
meeting of the Planning Commission. The motion passed unanimously. The Planning
Commission adjourned at 9:11 p.m.
Chairman
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