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MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND THE
STATE OF MINNESOTA
STUDY SESSION
June 28, 1979
CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission met in study session and was called to order by Chairman
Hal Pierce at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Chairman Pierce, Commissioners Theis, Hawes and Erickson. Also present were
Director of Planning and Inspections Ronald Warren, Superintendent of Engineering
James Noska and Planning Assistant Gary Shallcross. The Secretary informed the
Commission that Commissioner Manson had called him before the June 14, 1979 and
indicated that she would not be at the June 28, 1979 meeting. He also stated
that Commissioner Lucht had called earlier in the day saying that he would be
late to this evening 's meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - June 14, 1979
Commissioner Erickson noted that he had made the motion for denial of Application
No. 79037 at the June 14 meeting. Motion by Commissioner Erickson seconded by
Commissioner Theis to approve the minutes of the June 14, 1979 Planning Commission
meeting as corrected. Voting in favor: Chairman Pierce, Commissioners Theis,
Hawes and Erickson. Voting against: none. The motion passed.
APPLICATION NO 79030�Brooklyn Center Industrial Park)
The Secretary introduced the first business item, site and building plan approval
to construct three speculative buildings totalling approximately 140,000 square
feet on a 13 acre site, located on Freeway Boulevard westerly of Schmitt Music.
He pointed out that the parcel is bounded on the south by Freeway Boulevard, on
the west by vacant industrially zoned property, on the east by the Schmitt Music
site and on the north by Shingle Creek. The Secretary explained that the appli-
cation was tabled at the June 14, 1979 Planning Commission meeting and that at
that time the Commission directed the applicant to submit revised plans providing
for a 140 ft. separation between two of the buildings for a paved loading dock
and driveway area. The Commission also directed that the plans be modified to
provide a 50 ft. setback for the building facing Freeway Boulevard.
The Secretary noted that the applicant has submitted a new plan incorporating
these changes. The Secretary then showed the Commission the plans of the site
which provided for a staggered location of the two buildings such that the 140
feet can be maintained with a minimum reduction in building area. The Secretary
also reviewed for the Commission the fact that the applicant proposes a natural
ground cover along Shingle Creek Parkway at the northerly portion of the site.
He also pointed out an existing 25 ft. sanitary sewer easement which runs in a
southeasterly direction at about the center of the site from west to east for
approximately 635 feet and then heads southerly towards Freeway Boulevard.
Commissioner Theis inquired as to moving the curb cut at the west edge of the
site in order to serve both Shingle Creek Plaza and the property to the west.
Mr. Beisner stated that the property to the west would not be developed before
1980. The Secretary added that he did not see a problem with widening the
driveway later to serve both properties as long as there was common ownership.
In response to Commissioner Hawes, the Secretary stated that if the property
were sold he still did not see a problem with arranging a common access agreement.
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Commissioner Theis asked how much building area was lost as a result of widening
the paved loading dock and driveway area. Mr. Beisner answered that only 2800
square feet of building area had been sacrificed, with the remaining area being
subtracted from open space. Commissioner Erickson asked whether calculating
parking requirements for 15% office usage would be adequate. Mr. Beisner
answered that office usage and other speculative industrial buidings was less
than 10% on average and so he did not see any problem.
Chairman Pierce asked the Superintendent of Engineering about the drainage on
the site. The Superintendent of Engineering answered that most of the water
would be retained on the site, which is preferable, and that the remainder would
flow chiefly toward Freeway Boulevard.
The Commission then discussed the question of widening the proposed curb cut at
the west end of the site when the property to the west was developed. Chairman
Pierce asked whether a bituminous curb would be the most feasible alternative
in the interim. The Superintendent of Engineering stated that he did not think
there would be a problem cutting through a concrete curb. Chairman Pierce asked
the applicant whether any plan existed for the site to the west. Mr. Beisner
answered that no plan existed at present, but supposed that it would probably be
occupied by an L-shaped building facing Freeway Boulevard and Xerxes Avenue
North.
ACTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION NO. 79030 (Brooklyn Center Ind. Park
Motion by Commissioner Erickson seconded by Commissioner Theis to recoranend
approval of Application No. 79030, subject to the following conditions:
1 . The building plans are subject to review and approval by the
Building Official with respect to applicable codes prior to
the issuance of permits.
2. Grading, drainage, and utility plans are subject to review
and approval by the City Engineer prior to the issuance of
permits.
3. A Performance Agreement and supporting financial guarantee
(in an amount to be determined by the City Manager) shall
be submitted to assure completion of approved site improvements.
4. The building shall be equipped with an automatic extinguishing
system to meet NFPA Standard No. 13 and shall be connected to a
central monitoring service in accordance with Chapter 5 of the
City Ordinances.
5. All outside trash -disposal equipment and/or rooftop mechanical
equipment shall be appropriately screened from view.
6. B-612 curb and gutter shall be provided around all driving and
parking areas.
7. An underground irrigation system shall be provided in all
sodded and planting areas to facilitate site maintenance.
The irrigation shall not be required in areas by Shingle
Creek where natural ground cover will continue to exist.
8. Plan approval is exclusive of all signery which is subject to
the requirements of Chapter 34 of the City Ordinances.
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9. A standard utility maintenance agreement approved by the
City Engineer shall be executed prior to the issuance of
permits.
10. A joint access approved by the City Engineer, shall be
provided on the westerly portion of the site to provide
access to the subject site and to the industrially zoned
parcel immediately to the west.
Voting in favor: Chairman Pierce, Commissioners Theis, Hawes and Erickson.
Voting against: none. The motion passed.
APPLICATION NO 79023 (Brooklyn Center Industrial Park)
The next item of consideration was a request by Brooklyn Center Industrial Park
to rezone from R3 to I-1 , a 72 acre portion of Outlot E, Twin Cities Interchange
Addition. The Secretary pointed out that the land in question lies adjacent to
Xerxes Avenue North and Shingle Creek Parkway north of Interstate 94. Under the
current request, he said, the remaining 122 acres of the 20 acre site would
remain R3 for development of up to 100 townhouse units . The Secretary noted
that the application was tabled at the May 10, 1979 meeting and referred to the
Northwest Neighborhood Advisory Group for review and comment. Commissioner
Theis attended the meeting of the neighborhood group, on June 7 at City Hall,
and has submitted minutes for the proceedings, he said. The Secretary reported
that the consensus of opinion of those who attended was that the corner of Xerxes
Avenue North and Shingle Creek Parkway would not be suitable for residential
development. He also stated that there was a general concern expressed that the
townhouses constructed not be subsidized with federal money.
The Secretary stated that staff is at a loss to see the merits for the neighbor-
hood, the City, or even the applicant, of an I-1 zoning. He indicated that
while a residential use at the corner of Xerxes Avenue North and Shingle Creek
Parkway may be less than optimal , an industrial use presents even fewer ad-
vantages. The applicant, he said, argues without tangible support, that the
development of the 72 acres in question for industrial use will somehow guarantee
a quality owner-occupied townhouse development on the rest of Outlot E. However,
he reasoned, logic would suggest that an industrial development bringing truck
traffic and possibly other annoyances would make the sale of townhouses more
difficult and increase the likelihood of a less desirable residential development.
The Secretary also questioned whether the land in question would support the use
for which it would be zoned. He pointed out that of the 72 acres proposed for
rezoning to I-1 , over 42 acres would be devoted to a landscape buffer area with
underground sprinkling system. This, -he said, is based on a 100 ft. buffer
between I-1 and R3 uses and a 50 ft. setback off major thoroughfares - Xerxes
Avenue North and Shingle Creek Parkway. Based on these constraints, he main-
tained, the site is only able to accommodate one 45,000 sq. ft. industrial
building. This, he said, is only about half the land use efficiency being
obtained on the average in the rest of the Industrial Park. The Secretary con-
sidered this an inefficient use of land. Only as a prelude to further rezonings
of land to the west, he stated, does this proposal seem to serve the applicants
interest.
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The Secretary also argued that the proposal seems premature at this time. He
noted that there is more undeveloped I-1 land than R3 land in the City at present
(if The Ponds Development is considered to be developed) and that the demand for
townhouses is growing. The Secretary stated that the development option afforded
by the existing zoning does not seem to have been pursued vigorously. He sug-
gested that the applicant pursue the idea'of developing a quality mid-density
complex on the wester 12'2 acre portion of the site first and then possibly
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propose a less intense use, such as Cl , on the eastern T2 acres if accompanied by
a specific development proposal that would offer maximum protection for, the
neighborhood. The Secretary considered such a course to- be the most acceptable
to provide buffering to a mid-density '^esidential development.
The Secretary concluded that the requested I-1 zoning should be denied because
the proposal is not consistent with the ordinance Rezoning Evaluation and Review
Guidelines for the following reasons:
1 . The rezoning proposal, does not demonstrate clear public need
or benefit. The applicant has not shown that the I-1 rezoning
proposal would assure that the remainder of the 20 acre site
would be developed as zoned.
2. The I-1 zoning is not considered compatible with the R3 use to
the west:
3. The parcel in question does not seem to allow the efficient
use of land under the I-I zoning restriction.
4. The rezoning would result in the expansion of a zoning district
not warranted by the Comprehensive Plan. Additional undeveloped
I-1 property is located in the immediate vicinity. There is no
perceived need for additional I-1 zoned land in this area.
5. The proposal does not demonstrate merit beyond the interests of
the owner of the parcel .
Chairman Pierce then called on the applicant to speak to the proposal . Mr.
Beisner noted that previous proposals for rezoning of this area have been denied,
although he could not explain why. He pointed out that it is generally agreed
that residential use is not appropriate at the corner of Xerxes Avenue North and
Shingle Creek Parkway. He also maintained that Brooklyn Center Industrial Park
does have a master plan for the Industrial Park. Mr. Beisner said that people
are afraid of subsidized housing. He stated that the Industrial Park could.have
built such housing on the site, but that they were interested in being cooperative
with the neighborhood.
He then reviewed previous conceptual plans for the area. He indicated that the
site must be developed either for rental or for sale, not a mix. Previous ideas
for use at the corner of Shingle Creek Parkway and Xerxes Avenue North, he said,
included apartments, then office buildings and now finally, an industrial
building.
Mr. Beisner maintained that Brooklyn Center Industrial Park could make more money
off rental units than by selling townhouses. He said that he was trying to
satisfy a number of groups: the neighborhood, the City, the School Board (which
is interested in 100 new families entering the area), and the owner of the land.
He acknowledged that a Cl or CIA use at the corner of Shingle Creek Parkway and
Xerxes Avenue North would cause visual pollution to the neighborhood to the west.
As to the efficient use of the land, he said, it is the City which requires the
large green area.
In conclusion, he stated that he thought the School Board, the City and the
neighborhood would be satisfied with the I-1 zoning. He mentioned the fact that
he has tried to discuss the proposal with everyone involved and that while not
everyone would be' 100% satisfied, most people would be perhaps 75% satisfied.
. Commissioner Malecki arrived at 8:15 p.m.
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Chairman Pierce inquired whether Brooklyn Center Industrial Park owns the Earle
Brown Patio Homes remaining to be built. Mr. Beisner admitted that he was not
sure, although he didn't think so. He acknowledged that the Homeowners Associ-
ation Agreement for the Earle Brown Patio Homes indicates that Brooklyn Center
Industrial Park is the owner. If so, he said, the Farm would try to tie those
houses in with the townhouses to be built,to the east.
Looking over the conceptual plan presented by Mr. Beisner, Chairman Pierce
inquired whether it met all ordinance requirements. There was a brief examin-
ation by the Secretary. The Planning Assistant pointed out that the conceptual
plan takes no account of the 100 ft. buffer required between I-1 and R3 uses.
This buffer area cannot be used for driving, parking, or any other use, but must
be a maintained green area. Mr. Beisner responded that the precise line drawn
to indicate the proposed zoning districts was not cast in concrete and that they
would be willing to accept a different 72 acre configuration. Chairman Pierce
questioned whether the City could rezone land in concept without specific bound-
aries. The Secretary stated that the Zoning Ordinance must be amended to show
precise areas belonging to particular zoning districts. Mr. Beisner again stated
that the line could be redrawn.
Commissioner Theis asked whether any information regarding restrictive covenants
had been gained from the Monday night Council meeting. The Secretary answered
that the City Attorney had said that the zoning cannot place such covenants on
the land, but that owners can. The Secretary continued that if Mr. Beisner is
looking for direction regarding a recommended use for the land, that direction
is given by the Comprehensive Plan which recommends an R3 use. He argued that
I-1 is not a good buffer between a residential development and the rest of the
Industrial Park. He clarified that City staff had never recommended that I-1
zoning on the parcel and that his recommendation at this time would be to de-
velop a quality mid-denisty residential complex on the easterly portion of the
site before looking at any rezoning of the area by Shingle Creek Parkway and
Xerxes Avenue North.
Chairman Pierce inquired what the traffic count was at Xerxes Avenue North and
Shingle Creek Parkway. The Superintendent of Engineering answered that at
present it is between 12,000 and 15,000 cars per day. Commissioner Hawes asked
whether stop signs had been considered for that intersection. The Superintendent
of Engineering answered that even signals had been considered, and in answer to
Commissioner Theis indicated the same for the corner of 69th Avenue ,forth and
Shingle Creek Parkway. Commissioners Hawes asked whether truck traffic would
be allowed on Xerxes Avenue North. The Superintendent of Engineering responded
that since it is a MSA road,- it would be allowed.
Mr. Beisner again stated that the line could be changed in order to have the
most efficient use of land.
Commissioner Lucht arrived at 8:28 p.m.
Commissioner Theis, speaking on behalf of the residents in the area, stated that
the single family homes in the area were in favor of the industrial concept. Mr.
Dilley of the Earle Brown Patio Homes Association stated that the residents of
the townhouse association had switched their recommendation to denial of_ the
rezoning request because of the way they were treated by the applicant relative
to site improvements. Commissioner Theis noted that the neighborhood was in-
terested in controls over the development and assurances that it would be of
high quality. He commented, however, that the Planning Commission could not
assure such things. The neighborhood meeting, he said, indicated that people
in the area were in favor of the industrial rezoning. The meeting did not
really discuss the alternative of service/office or retail use, he said.
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He observed that once the rezoning takes place, the leverage which the City would
have over the development would be lost. He added, therefore, he would prefer
to withold the rezoning until some of the townhouses were built, but indicated
he was not opposed to some kind of rezoning.
Mr. Beisner said that he wanted to avoid working up a total plan for the area
and then to have the rug pulled out from under him by not having the property
rezoned. It would take too long to develop a specific plan, he said, and in the
meantime Brooklyn Center Industrial Park would not have its rezoning. He asked
for direction as to what would be allowed.
Commissioner Hawes stated that the intersection is probably not good for resi-
dential , but agreed with the Secretary that an I-1 zoning would not be good
either. Mr. Beisner countered that the corner is not good for retail or office
either, and since it is not good for residential , it must be used for industrial .
Commissioner Hawes stated that it would not be suited for industrial without a
variance.
Commissioner Malecki stated that she agreed with the position recommended and
that taken by Commissioner Hawes. She noted that no assurances could be given
in conjunction with the I-1 rezoning that would guarantee a quality development.
Commissioner Hawes suggested a recreational use at the corner of Xerxes Avenue
i'dorth and Shingle Creek Parkway as part of the residential development. -
Commissioner Theis asked Mr. Beisner which would be developed first, the town-
houses or the industrial building. Mr. Beisner answered that he would prefer
that they be built simultaneously, but that townhouse financing was not available.
Chairman Pierce commented that some types of industrial uses might be compatible,
but that the configuration of the land does not seem appropriate and that the
proposed conceptual plan placing truck docks adjacent to the residential area is
undesirable. Commissioner Hawes pointed out that the City has relatively plenty
of R3 and I-1 vacant land, but very little Cl land and asked Mr. Beisner whether
this would not be a good indication that there is a need for more Cl land. Mr.
Beisner answered that the need for Cl land in the City generally could not be
taken as an indication that any particular parcel would be suitable for service/
office use.
Chairman Pierce called for a motion on the rezoning proposal . Commissioner Theis
stated that he would prefer that reason No. 2 be stricken from the list of reasons
for denial since he did not want to close the door to I-1 use forever. Commis-
sioner Lucht responded that he could not see any reason to rezone the land to I-1 .
He stated that Xerxes Avenue (North is the best buffer between the Industrial Park
and the residential development to the west, and that an I-1 use would never be
appropriate for the land in question. He preferred to see the entire parcel
remain R3 and be developed as such. He noted that a common area, could be developed
with the townhouses to assure adequate protection at that corner.
In response to a comment from Commissioner Erickson, Commissioner Theis pointed
out that the minutes to the neighborhood meeting were an indication of the
neighborhood's feelings, not that of the advisory groups, since only one advisory
group member had been present.
Commissioner Malecki agreed with Commissioner Lucht that I-1 zoning at the
corner of Shingle Creek Parkway and Xerxes Avenue North was not appropriate.
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Commissioner Theis commented that the application was not only for I-1 , but also
for CIA. Mr. Beisner asked if the land would be rezoned to CIA as a result of
the denial of the I-1 zoning. The Secretary answered that that would not be the
case. He noted that the applicant had indicated at the May 10, 1979 Commission
meeting that the Service/Office zoning was undesirable and, for that reason,
it is no longer being considered. The Secretary added that the CIA proposal
has not really been discussed further by the Commission or the Neighborhood
Advisory Group and that what comment does exist on the record indicates people
in the area would be opposed to a zoning without a height limitation. Commis-
sioner Theis asked the Secretary if a Cl zoning for the land in question would
be appropriate. The Secretary responded that the City has, on a number of
occasions, indicated its preference for the development of the entire 20 acre
parcel as mid-density residential . He pointed out that a Cl rezoning of the
easterly area might be considered appropriate to buffer a townhouse development
from the rest of the Industrial Park. He agreed with Commissioner Lucht's
observation that a townhouse development could be designed so that recreational
and large common areas could be located in the vicinity of Shingle Creek Parkway
and Xerxes Avenue North to provide protection, or a buffer, for the residential
development.
ACTION RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF APPLICATION NO. 79023(Brooklyn Center Industrial Park)
Motion by Commissioner Lucht seconded by Commissioner Malecki to recommend denial
of Application No. 79023, rezoning of 72 acres of Outlot E, Twin Cities Interchanne
Addition to I-1 and/or CIA for the following reasons:
1 . The rezoning proposal does not demonstrate a clear public need
or benefit. The applicant has 'not shown that the I-1 proposal
would assure that the remainder of the 20 acre site would be
developed as zoned.
2. The I-1 zoning is not considered compatible with the R3 zoning
to the west.
3. The parcel in question does not seem to allow the efficient use
of land under I-1 zoning restrictions. -
4. The rezoning would result in an expansion of a zoning district
not warranted by the Comprehensive Plan. Additional undeveloped
I-1 property is located in the immediate vicinity. There is no
perceived need for additional I-1 zoned land in this area.
5. The proposal does not demonstrate merit beyond the interests
of the owner of the parcel .
Voting' in favor: Chairman Pierce, Commissioners Malecki , Hawes, Lucht and
Erickson. Voting against: Commissioner Theis. The motion passed. Commissioner
Theis stated that he felt the motion did not deal adequately with the application.
Commissioner Erickson stated that the application .had been dealt with adequately
with the recommendation to deny the rezoning request. Commissioner Theis stated
that CIA zoning was not given adequate consideration. Chairman Pierce asked if
Planning Commission members favored a Cl zoning: Commissioner Lucht responded
that he felt the land should remain entirely R3. He noted that the area can
be .appropriately developed for townhouse use.
Mr. Beisner asked for a poll of the Planning Commission's feelings regarding
the best use of the land. Commissioner Lucht favored the existing zoning. All
other Commissioners except Commissioner Theis stated the same.
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RECESS
T-TieTTanning Commission recessed at 9:14 p.m. and resuemd at 9:31 p.m.
APPLICATION- NO-. 79025 (Darold Modeen)
The next item f consideration was a request by Jarold Modeen and the owners of
the property between 5455 and 5549 Brooklyn Boulevard that their properties be
rezoned from R1 to Cl (Service/Office) . The Secretary noted that the application
was tabled at the May 10, 1979 Planning Commission meeting and referred to the
Southwest Neighborhood Advisory Group for review and comment.
The Neighborhood Group, he said; met on May 29, 1979 at the Brooklyn Center
Library. He reported that a number of local residents were present and by a vote
of 12 to 10 advised against the rezoning proposal . He pointed out that Advisory
Commission members and the interested property owners constituted 9 of the votes
favoring the rezoning, while surrounding neighbors were not in favor of the
proposal .
The Secretary indicated that the staff considers the rezoning proposal premature
at this time. He explained that while the Planning Consultants have recommended
service/office use in this area in the updated Comprehensive Plan they have also
acknowledged that the present ordinance requirements regarding lot width in the
Cl zone are insufficient to prevent intermittent house conversions and are
recommending 150' mimimum lot width requirements in Cl zones to enhance the
likelihood of larger and more attractive developments, he recommended that the
proposal be denied or deferred until : 1 ) The City's Comprehensive Plan and
accompanying Zoning Ordinance are adequate and/or 2) A specific development
plan for the area has been proposed.
The Secretary pointed out that condition No. 2 is reaffirmation of the policy
established by the City Council relating to the rezoning of the Brooklyn Center
Library property under Application No. 76053. In that case, he said, the City
Council deferred the rezoning of the old slaughterhouse property until a specific
development proposal was made. The Secretary also recommended that any rezoning
of land between Northport Medical Clinic and the Library to a C1 use include the
Clinic in order to eliminate its nonconforming status.
Chairman Pierce called on the applicant to speak on behalf of the proposal . Mrs.
Modeen of 5545 Brooklyn Boulevard stated she would like feedback from the Plan-
ning Consultants on the proposed use for the area. David Jensen, owner of the
property at 5501 Brooklyn Boulevard argued extensively in favor of the proposal .
He stated that he did not consider the proposal premature in light of recent
rezonings of property in the area and in light of the Planning Consultants
recommendation that the land be rezoned to Cl use. He admitted that the rezoning
request was not backed by any specific development, explaining that the property
owners could not afford such a marketing study. As to intermittent house con-
versions, he said, any developer would have to receive City approval before
such a conversion and would certainly be discouraged from such an attempt
because of the various code requirements for commercial buildings. He confessed
that there had been some confusion over the inclusion of the Clinic in the re-
zoning request, but added that the applicants would have no opposition to the
rezoning of that property to C1 also.
The Secretary acknowledged Mr. Jensen's arguments,_ but replied that it would
be better to defer the rezoning until the Zoning Ordinance were amended to
require a larger lot width, th.ereby ensuring larger quality developments. He
also pointed out that in the rezoning of the Library property, the slaughterhouse
property had specifically been excluded because there was no development,proposal
for it.
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Mr. Jensen argued the fact that the Northport Medical Clinic is not included in
the rezoning is no reason to deny the proposal , since the rezoning of the
slaughterhouse property also did not include the Clinic. He maintained that
rezoning the property to Cl would do away with the hardship of the residents in
the area who suffered under the existing R1 zoni.ng. He stated that he felt the
rezoning request met the guidelines of the Zoning Ordinance. He also called on
the Commission to differentiate the present rezoning request from that of the
slaughterhouse property if the Commission chose to deny the rezoning. He finished
by saying that the property owners could get very little for their land and
houses under the existing zoning. A rezoning to Cl he said would rectify this.
Commissioner Hawes asked when the Comprehensive Plan would take effect. The
Secretary answered that the plan must be approved within a year by the City
Council . Implementation of its recommendations, he estimated, would take up to
a year and one-half. Mr. Weber of BRW, stated that amendments to the lot width
requirements could be approved prior to the adoption of the Comprehensive Plan,
and that he saw no reason why the rezoning could not be approved if these changes
were made.
Commissioner Theis stated his concern that the present Zoning Ordinance would
allow intermittent house conversions, but the proposed Zoning Ordinance amend-
ment would eliminate that possibility. He cited this as one difference between
the present request and the rezoning of the slaughterhouse property. Commissioner
Lucht asked whether there was any advantage to deferring rather than denying
the proposal . The Secretary explained that he did not see the merit of deferring
the proposal , but felt the rezoning was premature until the Comprehensive Plan
studies were finished, or until a specific development proposal was presented.
Commissioner Lucht noted that if the request were approved, it would create six
nonconforming parcels.
The Secretary compared the present request to the exclusion of the slaughterhouse
property from the Library rezoning on the basis of no development plan. Com-
missioner Hawes agreed and recommended waiting until any lot width amendment
is adopted. Commissioner Malecki asked whether the Zoning Ordinance could be
amended prior to adoption of the Comprehensive Plan. The Secretary answered
that while it was possible he recommended that all Zoning Ordinance changes be
considered during review of the Comprehensive Plan. He added that to change
the current Cl lot width requirement to 150 feet should also be accompanied by
an analysis as to the effect this would have on other Cl zoned property already
in existence.
Chairman Pierce asked whether there was a lot area requirement in the Cl district.
The Secretary answered that there is none. Commissioner Erickson stated that he
would favor the rezoning after an Ordinance amendment might be adopted. Further
discussion ensued concerning the proposed lot width amendment.
Chairman Pierce asked the owners of the property along Brooklyn Boulevard whether
they had been approached by potential developers . Mrs. Modeen stated that the
Northport Medical Clinic had approached her as to the possibility of acquiring
part of their lot. No other property owners reported any offers.
Mrs. Gloria Byrnes, of 5348 Northport Drive, said that her opposition was best
stated by the staff report. She advised a moritorium on rezonings until the
Comprehensive Plan is adopted. Mr. Jensen stated that the proposal is no more
premature than other rezoning requests which are not being delayed by Compre-
hensive Plan review. He maintained that waiting for a development proposal is
not necessary because existing tools are sufficient to avoid possible house
conversions.
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Commissioner Malecki observed that the applicant is arguing for the same treatment
as the slaughterhouse property, but noted that rezoning of the slaughterhouse
property was deferred until a development proposal was brought forth. She also
pointed out that small office developments and house conversions could not be
denied provided ordinance requirements were ;aet once the rezoning takes place. Mr.
Jens n again maintained that other ordinance �tcols are sufficient to control
deveyopm nt.
Commissioner Hawes observed that Mr. Jensen's property, which is in the middle,
would likely suffer in value if the properties at the ends of the request con-
verted first. In response to Mr. Jensen's concerns over the ability to sell his
property. Commissioner Malecki stated that he could tell buyers the Planning
Commission favors Cl zoning in the future.
Chairman Pierce stated that he was reluctant to see six nonconforming parcels
created by the rezoning. He cited another example of a Cl zoning along Brooklyn
Boulevard which has not been developed under its current zoning and that an
addition to the nonconforming structure on the site had to be denied because of
its status. In answer to a question from Mr. Jensen, Commissioner Hawes stated
that the Planning Commission would not consider a rezoning request accompanied
by development proposal to be premature. Mrs. Byrnes interjected, however, that
she would oppose Cl development at any time because it would affect her. Mrs.
Olson of 5459 Brooklyn Boulevard, stated that the parking requirements would not
allow more than three commercial buildings in that area. Commissioner Hawes
assured Mrs. Olson that the Planning Commission is not bound to follow the
neighborhood feelings in making its recommendations regarding rezonings. Mrs.
Byrnes interjected that she expected Commissioner Hawes to listen to the neigh-
borhood, but conceded that the neighborhood would have to have good reasons for
denying the-rezoning.
ACTION RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF APPLICATION NO. 79025 (Jarold Modeen)
t,lotion by Commissioner Hawes seconded by .Commissioner Erickson to deny Application
No . 79025, submitted by Jarold Modeen, requesting rezoning from Rl to Cl , noting
that consideration is being given for a Service/Office use of this area in the
updated Comprehensive Plan, but a rezoning at this time would be premature for
the following reasons:
1 . Present ordinance requirements are not adequate to prevent
intermittent house conversions and ensure larger quality
office development.
2. There is no accompanying development proposal to indicate
conceptually how the area would be developed. The request
is, therefore, purely speculative at this time.
Also, the Commission would consider a rezoning to a Service/Office use if a
specific development proposal is put forth.
Voting in favor: Chairman Pierce, Commissioners Malecki , Theis, Hawes, Lucht
and Erickson. Voting against: none. The motion passed.
In answer to a question from Mr. Jensen, The Secretary explained that the City is
under a time table established to ensure that applications are dealt with promptly.
Those requirements do not prevent the applicant from withdrawing the request or
holding it in abeyance for a longer period of time prior to City Council review,
but he recommended that the applicants allow the application to be considered
by the City Council at this time, in order to receive their reaction to it
rather than presume that the Planning Commission's feelings would be acceptable
to the Council .
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VE PLAN - Inventory
REVIEW OF COMPREHEi�SI of Public Facilities
Mr. Bill Weber, of the Planning Consultant BRW, introduced his report on the
existing inventory of physical facilities by stating that since the City is mostly
developed at this point, the focus is on maintenance and minor additional growth.
He stated that the population is not expected to grow very much and that in-
dustrial development in the City is nearly complete.
SEWER SYSTEM
Mr. Weber stated that there were no significant problems. with the sewer capacity
under present demand. The Superintendent of Engineering qualified that assumpt-
ion by adding that if the City were to accommodate any wet "industries; the
existing sewer capacity might have to be increased.
Chairman Pierce asked whether there were any major sewer. problems. The Superin-
tendent of Engineering answered that there are no significant -problems now, but
that in 10 to 20 years_, replacement of lift stations may be necessary. Regarding
the sewer lines, the Superintendent of Engineering projected that existing lines
would be good for another 10 to 20 years. , Chariman Pierce expressed concern about
paving. new streets and then a few years later tearing those streets up for in-
stallation of new sewer lines. The Superintendent of Engineering responded that
the life of roads is roughly 20 years and so a similar time horizon faced both
sewers and streets.
The Commissioner then discussed the flow of Brooklyn Park sewage through the
Brooklyn Center sewer system. The point was made that increased demand from
Brooklyn Park would require greater interceptor capacity in Brooklyn Center. Mr.
Weber stated that he did not -think the expansion of capacity would be borne by
Brooklyn Center residents and noted that there is only one interceptor along the
south side of the City. Chairman Pierce asked whether Mr. Weber stated that he
did not think the expansion of capacity would be borne by Brooklyn Center residents
and noted that there is only one interceptor along the south side of the City.
Chairman Pierce asked whether the Metropolitan Council is planning for one central
treatment plant or is considering regionalization. He pointed out that the potent-
ial flow seems significant. The Superintendent of Engineering answered that he
was unsure of the Metropolitan Council plans.
STORM SEINER
Mr. Weber stated briefly that the present storm sewer system is adequate for the
Uty's needs. The Superintendent of Engineering discussed briefly the interim
municipal storm sewer connections with Minneapolis . Chairman Pierce commented
that some marginal lands around the Twin Lake area are under water now whereas two
to three years ago swampy conditions prevailed. The Superintendent of Engineering
pointed out that rainfall has increased and the water table is up in the past two
to three years.
WATER SYSTEM
Mr. Weber cited the recommendations of the previous Comprehensive Plan for in-
creasing water storage capacity and constructing more water mains. He stated
that those recommendations anticipate more growth than has occurred and that
rather than follow through with those suggestions he would now recommend continued
maintenance and minor additions to the system. Chairman Pierce asked whether
there was a need for a water treatment system. The Superintendent of Engineering
noted that most people have water softners and that they will be replacing them
in the future. He stated that the decision on building a water treatment plant
would have to make a comparison between the public costs of the plant vs. the
private cost of replacing existing water softners.
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The Superintendent of Engineering also mentioned the potential for contamination
in the Jordan layer, citing the problems in St. Louis Park at this depth. Chair-
man Pierce wondered whether other types of uses, such as the Howe Fertilizer
plant could cause eventual problems .in the City's water supply. The Superintend-
ent of Engineering stated that he was not sure yet what impact drainage from the
Howe site could '.ha've on aquifer recharge areas.
LOCAL STREET SYSTEM
Mr. Weber recommended only one minor addition to the local street system, the
extension of Shingle Creek Parkway across Shingle Creek, He also noted that only
5% of the streets in the City were equipped with curb and gutter. High mainten=
ance costs result, he said, because of the "cold mix" installed during the initial
street paving. Repaving, he said, would be with a "hot mix" material with curb
and gutter.
Commissioner Hawes asked whether installation of curb and gutter would require more
storm sewers. The Superintendent of Engineering answered that storm sewers would
be installed as needed. The advantage of curb and gutter would be that water would
be conveyed away from the pavement thus adding to the life of the street. Commis-
sioner Hawes inquired as to funding sources . The Superintendent of Engineering
answered that he was unsure at this time what funding sources would -be used to
repave the City's entire street system. "
Chairman Pierce asked what the thickness of MSA roads was. The Superintendent of
Engineering answered that they are at least two to three inches and that they are
often much thicker. Chairman Pierce asked what the load limit would be on a two
to three inch bituminous mat. The Superintendent of Engineering stated that it
would accommodate vehicles as heavy as garbage trucks.
Chairman Pierce asked whether the walkways installed two years ago were paid for
with proceeds from the municipal liquor store. The Superintendent of Engineering
pointed out that the sidewalks were located mostly along MSA streets and that
MSA funds were generally used in sidewalk improvements . Chairman Pierce asked
about concrete streets. The Superintendent of Engineering stated that concrete
streets were controversial and since they would have to eventually be covered
with bituminous and there are complications with that. Commissioner Theis stated
that he would like to see a cost analysis comparing cold mix and hot mix with
curb and gutter. The Superintendent of Engineering answered that the life of a
cold mix street is only 7 years. Chairman Pierce asked about the life of a
concrete curb. The Superintendent of Engineering estimated this at 30 years.
The Secretary then distributed to the Commission a memo from Brad Hoffman, the
staff liaison to the Housing Commission. Mr. Hoffman reported a number of
questions and objections to the proposed housing element of the Comprehensive
Plan.. The Secretary asked Mr. Weber if he had any problems with Mr. Hoffman's
report. Mr. Weber answered that he did not see any significant problems. He
added that he and Mr. MacNamara could revise where necessary and resubmit the
Housing Element. The Secretary stated his appreciation for the feedback and
invited more.
In response to the Secretary, Mr. Weber stated that all of the planned elements
had been reviewed. The next step, he said, would be a review of the Implement-
ation Plan including a listing of revenue sources. Commissioner Theis commented
that the scale of capital expenditures varies from city to city and that comparison
to other municipalities must take this into account. Commissioner Erickson
asked whether long range planning was not already a part of the City's budgeting
process. The Superintendent of Engineering answered that it was, but that
funding for specific projects is still a big question.
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In response to a question from Chairman Pierce concerning a potential golf course,
the Secretary reported that the City had picked up by donation, a tract of land
at Shingle Creek Parkway and Highway 100. The Superintendent of Engineering
indicated that the area might be large enough for a nine hole par three golf
course.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
The Secretary inquired of Mr. Weber what was planned for the July 26 study meeting,
and told the Commission that the Planning office was being buried with applications.
He asked the Commission to give him discretionary authority to schedule one or two
business items on the study session agenda.
Commissioner Hawes inquired as to who was responsible for cutting the grass on
Brooklyn Boulevard. The Secretary answered that it was a State responsibility
since it is a State road. The Superintendent of Engineering noted that there is
a manpower shortage for this kind of work, but added that the County is responsive
to requests from the City.
The Secretary added that gasoline is another problem in grass cutting. The City,
he said, is looking fora number of ways to save gasoline.
The Secretary asked Mr. Weber whether the plan would be finished in August and
Mr. Weber responded that it would. The Secretary stated that the Planning Commis-
sion would have to hold hearings on the updated Comprehensive Plan for a couple
of months and look more closely at the text. Commissioner Hawes asked whether
people would have to be notified of potential rezonings. The Secretary answered
that a notice regarding the Comprehensive Plan is published in the Brooklyn Center
Post and that a general delivery to everyone in the City would be made.
Commissioner Hawes stated that he would not be at the July 12 meeting. Commis-
sioner Erickson indicated that he would not be able to make the July 26 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Theis seconded by Commissioner Hawes to adjourn the meeting
of the Planning Commission. Voting in favor: Chairman Pierce, Commissioners
Malecki, Theis, Hawes, Lucht and Erickson. Voting' against: none. The Planning
Commission adjourned at 11 :49 p.m.
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