HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013 01-31 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY OF
HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
JANUARY 31, 2013
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order by Chair Rahn at 7:02 p.m.
ADMINISTER OATH OF OFFICE
Mr. Benetti administered Oath of Office to Randall Christensen and Benjamin Freedman.
ROLL CALL
Chair Sean Rahn, Commissioners Scott Burfeind, Randall Christensen, Benjamin Freedman,
Carlos Morgan, Michael Parks, and Stephen Schonning were present. Also present were
Secretary to the Planning Commission Tim Benetti, Director of Business & Development, Gary
Eitel, and Planning Commission Recording Secretary Rebecca Crass.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES —JANUARY 17, 2013
There was a motion by Commissioner Parks, seconded by Commissioner Burfeind, to approve
the minutes of the January 17, 2013 meeting as submitted. The motion passed.
CHAIR'S EXPLANATION
Chair Rahn explained the Planning Commission's role as an advisory body. One of the
Commission's functions is to hold public hearings. In the matters concerned in these hearings,
the Commission makes recommendations to the City Council. The City Council makes all final
decisions in these matters.
APPOINTMENT OF 2013 CHAIR PRO TEM—APPOINTED ANNUALLY BY CHAIR
The Chair of the Planning Commission thanked those Commission members that indicated an
interest in being appointed as Chair Pro Tem of the 2013 Planning Commission. Chair Rahn
further stated he would appoint Commissioner Burfeind as Chair Pro Tem of the 2013 Planning
Commission.
APPLICATION NO. 2013-002 LOREN VAN DER SLIK/GATLIN DEVELOPMENT
Mr. Benetti explained that the applicant requested to delay action on this item until the February
14, 2013 meeting to allow more time to adjust their plat.
A motion was made by Commissioner Parks, seconded by Commissioner Schonning, to
postpone the final plat until the February 14, 2013 Planning Commission meeting.
Voting in favor: Chair Rahn, Commissioners Burfeind, Christensen, Freedman, Morgan,
Parks and Schonning
And the following voted against the same: None
The motion passed unanimously.
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DISCUSSION ITEM — AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 34, SIGNS, BY ALLOWING
"DYNAMIC MESSAGE SIGNS" TO CERTAIN PUBLIC AND SEMI-PUBLIC USES
LOCATED IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS
Mr. Benetti explained that staff had been approached by a sign company to install a dynamic
message board sign at Evergreen Elementary School, 7020 Dupont Avenue N. He added the
company was informed that these types of signs are prohibited in residential districts (which are
typically where schools are located) and the company asked the City Council to consider an
ordinance amendment to allow such signs for public or institutional type uses. Staff was also
approached by a church with a similar request, however, these types of signs would not be
allowed since the church is also located in a residential zoning district.
Mr. Benetti further explained City Council was generally supportive of this request and directed
staff to present the matter to the Planning Commission for formal consideration. He added DMS
type signs are only allowed in the C2, I-1 and I-2 districts and prohibited in all other districts.
Benetti also stated that if a school or church were located in one of these permitted zoning
districts, a DMS would be allowed under the provisions of the Ordinance.
Mr. Benetti added Public and Semi-Public Places should include uses such as schools, places of
worship, city hall, the community center, Hennepin County library, and others, however, City
Code is silent or absent of what exactly constitutes a "Public" or Semi-Public" use or place and
when questioned, this determination is either made by the Zoning Administrator or City Council.
Mr. Benetti stated the following modifications to the ordinance was suggested by a sign vendor:
k. A dynamic messages sign "DMS," is permitted only in the C2, 1-1 and 1-2
Districts and for Public and Semi-Public Places in all Districts). A DMS is
also subject to the all applicable requirements of Seetie~ 34 140.3.'^ of this
ordinance for the district in which such signs are placed. A DMS message
must remain constant for at least two seconds when such sign is in use. A
DMS within a residential zoned district or within 50 feet of a single family
residence shall be turned off or programmed to go blank between the hours of
10 p.m. and 6 a.m. daily. All DMS shall be equipped with dimming
technology that automatically adjusts their brightness in direct correlation
with ambient light conditions.
Mr. Benetti also stated City staff would also like the Commission to make a determination
regarding keeping or adding the "technical" specifications to the standards below and may
also consider allowing certain uses under the C 1 (Service/Office) and C 1 A (Service/Office)
Districts the ability to display DMS type signs:
No DMS shall exceed 0.3 foot candles above ambient light as measured from
a preset distance depending on sign size. Measurement distance shall be
determined using the following equation: the square root of the product of the
sign area and one-hundred. [Example using a 12 square foot DMS: x(12 x
100) = 34.6 feet measuring distance.]
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Mr. Benetti stated staff requests the Planning Commission consider the proposal to allow
dynamic message signs (DMS) in zoning districts other than the C-2, I-1 and I-2 districts,
specifically for Public and Semi-Public Uses/Places. He added the Commission should also
consider a new definition of what a Public/Semi-Public Use or Place is, in order to provide
clarification and applicability of future sign applications.
Mr. Benetti further stated if the Commission chooses not to accept the proposal, City Staff will
prepare a response to the City Council which rejects any sign code amendment at this time. He
added the Planning Commission can also direct staff to address this item through the public
hearing process at the February 28, 2013 meeting when a draft ordinance would be prepared for
consideration.
Chair Rahn asked for further clarification regarding the following suggested language:
"A DMS within a residential zoned district or within 50 feet of a single family residence
shall be turned off or programmed to go blank between the hours of 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.
daily.
Mr. Benetti explained the language provided was suggested by a sign vendor and he would be
more likely to suggest if a DMS sign is allowed in aM residential district, the sign must be
turned off between 10 pm and 6 am and certain illumination standards would be required.
Mr. Eitel explained City Council asked the Planning Commission's recommendation regarding
defining public and semi-public uses and also what type of lighting signage could be allowed in
residentially zoned areas. City Council is looking for advice and input from the Planning
Commission as to how the ordinance could be amended.
Commissioner Christensen stated that in his neighborhood churches and schools are all
surrounded by residential properties and allowing DMS signs will impact those neighborhoods.
Mr. Eitel replied that Perry Avenue where Willow Lane Elementary is located is not a collector
roadway. He added if such a sign were allowed, it should have been along the back side on
Brooklyn Boulevard since signs to communicate to the public should be on the well-traveled
roads and not on the side streets. He further stated that when the Northwest Family Services
building was constructed, access to the school on Brooklyn Boulevard was eliminated.
Commissioner Rahn stated that this appears to be an issue of the signs catching up with
technology since existing schools and churches may want to upgrade existing signs on their
property.
Commissioner Burfeind asked if there is a standard that dictates which street a sign should be
placed. Mr. Benetti replied no; however, if a new school or church were to come in to the city,
they would need to meet today's standards for placement of signs.
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Commissioner Parks stated that there is a certain feeling you get when you live in certain zoning
districts and some of these lighted signs get very bright around residential areas. He feels it
would be appropriate to have a public hearing to further discuss this. He added he does not
know what 0.3 ft. candles looks like and he would like to know how bright that is.
Commissioner Burfeind stated he would support these signs with more restrictions to a time
frame when the signs would be turned off. He added he is hesitant to support allowing DMS
signs in certain areas such as along Brooklyn Boulevard since that would be distracting and take
away from the long range Brooklyn Boulevard vision. He added if the streetscape amenities
continue in the Brooklyn Boulevard corridor it might not fit to have the DMS signs up and down
Brooklyn Boulevard.
Mr. Benetti replied that hypothetically, if a business in a C-2 zoned district wished to replace an
existing allowable sign on that property, and Code allowed them an 80-sf. sized wall or
pylon/cabinet type sign, they could replace that sign with a full-sized 80 sq. ft. DMS sign, unless
certain restrictions were established or provided for under size limitation standards. Benetti
stated other communities' ordinances have size limitations built-in to their ordinances, and he
suggested this may be an item or point the Commission could consider.
Commissioner Christensen stated that with the variety of signs located in the city, he feels there
should be further discussion regarding Dynamic Messaging Signs and where they can be located
as well as establishing restrictions.
Commissioner Freedman asked if the concern is the annoyance to the neighbors or is a
distraction to have the signs. Mr. Eitel confirmed the potential annoyance to neighbors was the
concern of the Councilmember. Commissioner Freedman asked if other cities that allow these
signs have received complaints. Mr. Benetti replied that information was not available but he
could contact neighboring cities to determine if complaints have been received. He added there
are many cities that do not allow these signs in any zoning district, however, with this new
technology, these are the signs of the future.
Chair Rahn stated it seems the City Council would like a public hearing to discuss this further
and he would like staff to provide examples of light standards and also feedback from other cities
that allow these signs.
Commissioner Parks stated he feels signs could be allowed in areas where they do not affect
residential properties, however, in residential areas, there are concerns with the brightness of the
signs. He added he would be favorable to allow Dynamic Messaging Signs in C 1 and C2 zoned
districts.
It was the general consensus to discuss the parameters at the February 14th Planning Commission
meeting and prepare for a public hearing on the February 28tH
There were no other discussion items.
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OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business.
ADJOURNMENT
There was a motion by Commissioner Burfeind, seconded by Commissioner Parks, to adjourn
the Planning Commission meeting. The motion passed unanimously. The meeting adjourned at
8:12 p.m.
Chair
Recorded and transcribed by:
Rebecca Crass
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