HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976 09-30 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER
IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF
MINNESOTA
STUDY SESSION
SEPTEMBER 30, 1976
CITY HALL
Call to Order: The Planning Commission met in study session
and was called to order at 8:05 p.m. by Chairman
Robert Foreman.
Roll Call : Chairman Foreman, Commissioners Engdahl , Jacobson,
Scott, Pierce, and Kohrt. Also oresPnt were
Director of Public Works James Neri1a and Director
of Planning and Inspection Blair iremere.
Approve Minutes: Motion by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner
9-9-76 Engdahl , to approve the minutes of the September 9,
1976 meeting as submitted. Voting .in favor were:
Chairman Foreman, Commissioners Engdahl , Scott,
Pierce, and Kohrt. Not voting: Commissioner
Jacobson who explained she was not present at that
meeting. The motion passed.
Application No. 76051
(LOGIS) Following the Chairman' s explanation, the first
Item of business was consideration of Application
No. 76051 submitted by Local Government Information
Systems (LOGIS) .
Horan Arrives Commissioner Horan arrived at 8:10 p.m. The item
was introduced by the Secretary who stated that
the applicant sought special use permission to use
up to 2,600 square feet of Speculative Building
No. 5, 6820 Shingle Creek Parkway, for commercial
service/office use. The Secretary stated that such
uses were comprehended as special uses in the I-1
district. The Secretary reviewed a letter submitted
to the file by ;1r. Ted Willard, Executive Director
of LOGIS, and an extensive discussion ensued.
The Secretary stated the Commission must evaluate
the proposal based on the criteria set forth in
the Zoning Ordinance for special commercial uses
in the I-1 district. He cautioned that not to do
so could lead to eventual introduction of public
oriented commercial businesses in the buildings
and area of the Industrial Park primarily designed
and intended for light industrial activity.
Chairman Foreman recognized Mr. Willard who explained
the present plans were tenuous, since original
agreement with B.C.I .P. had been based on oral under-
standings and that subsequent developments since
the application was filed have cast a shadow on
whether the occupancy is fusible. He stated,
nonetheless, he wished to pursue with the request
so that, should leasing considerations prove favor-
able, the zoning matter would be resolved. Mr.
Willard also briefly explained the function of LOGIS
and of the Northwest Human Services Council which
would share the office space. He noted that both
organizations were not oriented to the general public
and both served governmental agencies and public
service groups. He stated the need was for adminis-
trative and coordinative office functions.
Mr. Willard commented that his letter of application
stated the intent was to occupy approximately 1 ,300
square feet of the available 2,695 square feet area. *
He asked that the Commission consider the application
in terms of the full 2,695 square feet and that
adjustments could then be made within that permitted
area.
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In response to a question by Commissioner Pierce, Mr.
Willard stated the number of employees was expected to
bein the range of eight to ten with possible growth up
to fifteen depending on the amount of space available.
Chairman Foreman noted that a public hearing had been Public Hearing
scheduled and that none of the neighboring property
owners were present. Motion by Commissioner Jacobson,
seconded by Commissioner Scott, to close the public
hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
Upon further discussion there was a motion by Recommend Approval •
Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Horan, of Application fro.
to recommend approval of Application Flo. 76051 submitted 76051 (LOGIS)
by Local Government Information Systems (LOGIS) , noting
the uniqueness of the proposed uses which were public
service-oriented involving administrative, coordinative
offices, and were not general commercial uses; and
further that the proposed use is consistent with the
standards set forth in Section 35-300 of the Zoning
Ordinance; and subject to the following conditions:
1 . The permit is issued to the applicant and
is not transferable.
2. The permit comprehends the approximate
2,700 sq. ft. area at 6820 Shingle
Creek Parkway shown on the approved
plan; that area shall not be expanded
without approved amendment of the
permit.
3. The approved occupancy comprehends
noncommercial service-oriented adminis-
trative offices.
4. Building plans are subject to review and
approval by the Building Official with
respect to applicable codes.
The motion passed unanimously.
The next item of business was consideration of Application No. 76054
Application No. 76054 submitted by Brookdale Ford, (Brookdale Ford)
2500 County Road 10. The item was introduced by the
Secretary who stated the applicant seeks site and
building plan approval comprehending an addition to
the office portion of the automobile dealership as
well as numerous site upgrading improvements. He
stated a master plan for the site has been developed
comprehending use of the adjacent NSP property which
may be acquired in the near future. The Secretary
- explained the applicant' s plan proposed a phased
completion of the improvements, most of which
reflected minimum ordinance requirements as to paving,
grading, curbing, and green areas.
The Secretary stated that the present informal agree-
ments with NSP as to the use of their power line
right-of-way must be finalized, either through actual
acquisition of the property by the applicant and
assimilation into the site through replatting, or
through approved joint parking agreement. He stated
that in either case, the subject area which is
presently being partially used should be improved if
the parking and storage are to continue.
Chairman Foreman recognized Mr. Lieder who represented
the applicant and a discussion ensued as to the basis -for the proposed phasing. Chairman Foreman stated it
appeared the initial improvements were related to
construction of the proposed office addition and that
site improvements were being deferred until 1977
apparently due to weather considerations. Mr. Lieder
responded in the affirmative and stated it was expected
the site improvements could be stafted .when weather
permitted in the spring.
Chairman Foreman also noted the plans called for
the installation of automatic fire extinguishing
systems in the main office/service building as well
as in the body shop building. He asked why the
sprinkler system installation in the body shop would
be deferred until next year when the system in the
main building was being installed under proposed
-- - - Phase I . Mr. Lieder responded that since construction
work Would be occurring this year it was proposed to
concurrently install the sprinkler system in the main
building. He commented that, depending upon con-
struction scheduling and contractual agreements, it
was possible the sprinkler system could be installed
in the body shop building sooner.
In response to several questions concerning the
status of the NSP property, Per. Lieder stated contacts
had been made with NSP as to possible leasing or
acquisition arrangements and that at this time, the
use of the property was based on oral agreement. He
stated the applicant needed the space for car storage
and parking,.and, as indicated on the master plan,
definitely intended to pursue a satisfactory agree-
ment with NSP.
Commissioner Engdahl stated a concern that the
phasing indicated on the submitted plan should be
clarified in such a manner that completion of site
improvements on the present Brookdale Ford property
should in no way be hindered by leasing or purchase '
agreements relative to the NSP property. He
suggested that the items noted under proposed Phase
II be considered separately from the reference to
improvement of certain NSP owned property which
should be separate item as in Phase No. III . Com-
missioner Engdahl emphasized that improvements on
the NSP property were essential if it were to be
used, but that improvements of the Pxisting property
were basic to the operation of the dealership in any
event.
An extensive discussion ensued and Chairman Foreman
recognized Mr. Rick Hollenkemp who represented
Benson-Orth Associates, the designer and contractor
for the work. Mr. Hollenkemp reviewed the master
plan and indicated several site improvement final
details were yet to be finalized. He specifically
referred to the impact future acquisition of the
NSP property might have on grading and drainage
considerations in the north area of the site, as
well as the effect of any development on the property
north of the NSP right-of-way which is presently
owned by the Char-Lynn Company. He stated these
design details could be finalized in cooperation
with the City staff as the Phase I work proceeded.
The Secretary stated that it would be appropriate
for the Commission to establish a specific date at
which time the plans would be reconsidered in light
of accomplished work during the first phase. He
stated this was an established practice, such as
in the case of the Westbrook Mall where the site
plan was reviewed several times after the initial
• approval to assure completion of phased work within
the concept of the overall master plan.
Chairman Foreman inquired as to proposed landscaping
and Mr. Hollenkemp responded that the landscape
treatment was predominantly sodding and installation
of an underground irrigation system. He stated the
applicant was concerned about the screening effect
plantings and trees might have on the display area
for automobiles. An extensive disscussion ensued .
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Commissioner Scott stated there was a number of areas
Where landscaping could be provided, such as in the
fifteen foot green strips at the east end of the
property and on the north side where there was
abutment against adjacent development. Commissioner
Kohrt stated that while automobile dealerships had
a unique need for outside display which actually
constituted an advertising of the product, he did not
feel that on the whole automobile dealership sites
should be exempt from normal landscape requirements.
He agreed with Commissioner Scott that there are
several areas including the storage lot perimeter
greenstrips where substantial landscaping could.be
provided.
Commissioner Pierce stated his concern that the plan
indicated existing and future landscaping but did
not specify landscaping which could be provided in
the next growing season. Commissioner Engdahl and
Chairman Foreman reiterated the review of the Ryan
Oldsmobile site and the approved' landscaping which
consisted of trees near the entrance and along the
rear boundary.
Further discussion ensued as to the landscape
treatment of green strips and delineators. Mr.
Hollenkemp suggested that the specific treatment of
those areas would be reviewed and that perhaps a
rock or mulch treatment would be appropriate since
maintenance of sod could be difficult in the street
boulevard area. The Secretary and, Director of 'Public
Works responded that the generallexperience in the
City with rock and mulch treatments in lieu of sod
had been less than desirable singe, in the long
term, maintenance of those materials proved to be
more difficult than maintaining sod. They suggested
that with proper underground irrigation and main-
tenance of street boulevard green strips sod was a
feasible material , and several examples in the
Brookdale area were cited.
In further discussion, Chairman Foreman and Commissioner
Pierce suggested that, sine the site .plan should be
reviewed by the Commission; as to ,.'conpletion of im-
provements comprehended iw the second phase, it
would be appropriate to hare a more detailed land-
scaping plan by the June, 1977 rgeeting. Chairman
Foreman stated he felt thel Comnmi f $ion had made their
concerns clear and that a reviso letailed landscape
plan would be expected at that t roe. '
Chairman Foreman asked thejDirec or of Public Works
to review the master plan f the ntire area as it
related to the proposed fu ure i� �rovements on the
y Brookdale Ford plan. Mr. ,erila !stated that. a number
of factors impact on this rea s qh as the upgrading
of :Interstate 94 and the i stalli lion of a major
interchange at Shingle CreekkPar way. He said this
would result in a much more ' int se traffic flow in
this area and -viould have bearin on the design and
location of access points onto Siiingle Creek Parkway.
He said the master plan conceptually called for an •
internal roadway, which might be Private or public,
running parallel to the north 1'i of the NSP right-
of-way. He said that the timing ',' or this improvement
was contingent primarily on he , evelopment of the
Char-Lynn property. He note th 't'`the design of
this roadway could have bearing on the proposed
access and drainage of they north portion of- the
Brookdale Ford site.
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Recommend Approval of Following further discussion, there was a motion by
Application No. 76054 Commissioner Engdahl , seconded by Commissioner Kohrt
(Brookdale Ford) to recommend approval of Application 76054 submitted
by Brookdale Ford subject to the following conditions:
1 . Building plans are subject to approval by
the Building Official with respect to
applicable codes.
2. Grading, drainage, and utility plans ,are
subject to review by the City Engineer, and
a grading and drainage plan prepared by a
• registered engineer shall be submitted prior
to installation of the required improvements..
3. A performance agreement and supporting
financial guarantee (in an amount to be
determined by the City Manager) shall be
submitted to assure completion of approved
improvements.
4. All outside trash disposal facilities shall
be appropriately screened.
5. The building shall be equipped with auto-
matic fire extinguishing systems per N.F.P.A.
Standard No. 13.
6. Underground irrigation shall be installed
in all approved landscaped areas.
7. The phasing for the installation of site
and building improvements indicated on the
submitted plans shall be revised to the
extent that required improvements on the
existing Brookdale Ford property shall be
completed during Phase II , notwithstanding
the possible joint leasing or purchase of
the NSP right-of-way property; appropriate
site improvements shall be made on the NSP
right-of-way property if it is to be
actively used by Brookdale Ford, subsequent
to platting or joint parking agreement
approvals by the City Council .
8. The master plan and status of completed
work shall be reviewed by the Commission
no later than the June, 1977 regular meeting
and a revised detail landscape plan shall
be submitted for review and approval at that
time.
9. A utility easement for water main purposes
shall be provided and the design for said
easement shall be determined by the City
Engineer and the applicant.
The motion passed unanimously.
Recess The meeting recessed at 9:45 p.m. and resumed at
10:00 P.M.
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The next item of business was rOview of Application Application i1o. r
No. 76050 submitted by MiRros Eng neering, 3715 - 76050
50th Avenue North. The item wa$ introduced by the (Mikros, Engineering,
Secretary who stated the ppplicant has acquired the Inc.)
large industrial buildingi;at tho-southeast corner
of 50th and France Avenues North and intends to
establish a plastic mo'M 6 mandfa cturing facility.
He stated this use represented 4 major occupancy
change from the previous ise which consisted of
warehousing and storage .die start d extensive
electrical and plumbing work is s:heduled and that
plans have been submittedlindic t ng the existing and
proposed parking, landsca�'ing, i hting, and screening 1
of the rooftop mechanicT1116quip t. .
The Secretary stated the pprox m to 20,000 square
foot structure is deficie t as o setbacks, parking
spaces, and certain minimum sit mprovements.
He reviewed the plan subm !tted by the applicant who
stated a major concern wa ' elim n Ling the loading
activities on the north We of the building adjacent
to 50th Avenue. The Secroftary stated that with the
two overhead door entranc s on France Avenue, and
consistent with the Commi0ion'tOolicy to discourage
industrial activity where it abuts residential zoning
such as that to the north : it would be appropriate to
fill in the existing driv w' ays, fgrade them and sod
them as part of the north yard area.
The Secretary also stated ghat he yard area on the
north side should be comp tely rejuvenated including
the boulevard and that ins Calla ion of underground
irrigation should be incl ided t facilitate maintenance
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of e area. He also rec �nendd that curbing be
provided at the north end' of the France Avenue parking
lot to provide physical doi�i neaili,on between the pavement
and the turf.
The Secretary explained tt tho building and site
had a parking deficiaiicy approximately 9 stalls,
based on- the oruiodnce in stri l_ parking provisions.
He stated the ordinance p vide that, if there were
adequate land area to sup rt t .p building area parking
ratio, actual parking spa ' s need only be installed to
meet the employee ratio u ' it C,h time the full
complement of parking was leed 4 . He stated the
applicant proposed to des ) nat an internal portion of
the building as possible tur parking and that by
reserving this area for a ' ntu l [use, the intent of
the ordinance was satisfi J.
In response to questions to hie design of the parking
off of France Avenue, the acre airy stated that the
Council under Application o. 6 U2$ had approved the
paving of the approximate fd t wide 'boulevard area
so that the full width of he sl deyard could be used
for parking.
Chairman Foreman inquired hethl the building was 11
equipped with an automata afire extinguishing system
and the Secretary respond initheinegative. He stated
that prior to physical re deli , the State Building
Code required the buildin to b lso equipped, unless
certain exiting and fire O st vre ;materials were
provided. He said the pl $ sui Fitted 'indicated the
applicant proposed to ins ll all access and
appropriate wall and ceil g tr tments in lieu of an
automatic fire extinguish ) g syl
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The Secretary stated consideration should be given
as to the applicability of the City ordinance re-
quirement for automatic fire extinguishing system
which is part of the community's fire prevention
and protection policy. He stated the present
application represented an instance wherein industrial
building was subject to that ordinance requirements
except that it was originally constructed prior to
the adoption of the fire protection ordinance.
The Secretary then reviewed various sites throughout
the area and indicated that over time on a site-by-
site basis, site and parking plans were being reviewed
• with subsequent minimum improvements. He cited, for
example, the Dale Tile facility, Standard Solvents
Company premises, and the Brookdale Ford proposal
considered earlier in the evening.
Chairman Forerian recognized Mr. James Talmage, President
of Mikros Engineering, and an extensive discussion
ensued as to the proposed site improvements. Mr.
Talmage stated that he was concerned that the loading
facilities on 50th Avenue North be available for
shipping and receiving and that he acknowledged the
concern for the aesthetics of this north yard area.
He stated that in his opinion both openings should be
upgraded as much as possible but retained for use at
least until 50th Avenue North is upgraded. He
demonstrated on the floor plan how use of these
facilities would be essential for periodic delivery
of major shipments and agreed that the more regular
active shipping could be conducted from France
Avenue North entrances.
Commissioner Scott stated that once the applicant
had moved in and settled in the facility, at least
the easterly most driveway and loading dock on
50th could be filled in, graded, and sodded as part
of the yard area.
Mr. Talmage stated that, given the many openings in
the building including a new exit proposed as well
as the proposed remodeling within the building, it
was his understanding the State Building Code-was
satisfied and he questioned the need for an auto-
matic fire extinguishing system. He stated his
cost estimates were high and that it would take
approximately 150 years to amortize, based upon
insurance company data. He felt that adequate
safety and protection measures would be provided
for the occupants of the building. He also stated
that his proposed occupancy was not unlike the
original occupancy of this building, which involved
manufacturing, although he acknowledged the more
recent occupancy had been a low intensity warehouse
and storage use.
During further discussion the Secretary responded
to several questions explaining the differences
between the State Building Code fire sprinkling
requirements and the City fire protection policy.
The City ordinance policy is based on the determin-
ation that fire protection and prevention in the
community should be shared by both the public and
private sectors in the interest of maximizing the
quality of fire services at a minimum cost to all
parties. He stated the ordinance called for
installation of a minimum coverage automatic fire
extinguishing system connected to a central alarm
service for all commercial and industrial buildings,
and that the language of the ordinance spoke int efmg
of new construction. He stated the significance of
the issue went beyond the immediate application in
that there a number of like buildings throughout the
City which could be expected to come before the
Commission and Council in the future for similar
site and building plan review.
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Commissioner Kohrt stated that h felt the fire protection
requirement and policy statement In Chapter 5 did not
clearly encompass this building t other structures built
prior to the adoption of the ord trance, and he inquired on
what basis the Commission could recommend installation of
such a system. The Secretary sug ested that it could be
recommended to the City Council a condition of site and
building .plan approval , an that if it was the determination
of the Planning Commission and City Council that the re-
quirement should apply to 'ligib a existing structures
then'' the language in Chap ter 5 s 4uld be amended and
clarified to that effect. •
Motion by Commissioner Scott, se:'coded by Commissioner Recommend Approval
Engdahl to recommend approval of pplication No. 76050 of Application No.
submitted by 'vlikros Engineering, Inc. subject to the 76050
following conditions: (Mikros Engineering)
1 . Consistent with Section 35 .704, the designation
of the west interior por+' 6 of the building,
as shown on approved plan '' constitutes provision
for adequate area for off feet parking spaces
required by ordinance bas upon building size;
and installation of said s aces may be deferred,
subject to the following:
a. The additional interi , required spaces
shall be installed wh4deemed necessary
by the City.
b. The interior area shom on approved plans
as designated future king shall not be
altered or occupied ii ny manner which
would diminish the ca ' ity and conversion
to required parking s e without express
approval by the 'City.
2. A performance agreement ail supporting financial
guarantee (in an amount t e determined by the
City Manager) shall be su 'tted to assure
completion of site improvA nts shown on the
approved plans,
I. The north yard area shall rejuvenated and
improved with sod, planti and underground
irrigation including the a between the street
and the property lithe.
4. There shall be no 1bading , , ; unloading of raw
material or manufactured duct from the
easterly loading dock on 51 h Avenue north.
5 . The easterly loading, dock I cess on the north
side- shall be approp',riate filled, graded,
and sodded as part of the ard area.
6. The westerly loadin dock cess on 50th
Avenue North shall ie upg ed, repaired and
curbed as approved by the 1,, ty Engineer. '
Continued use of this opeiil Eli hall be subject
to review'at such Ome th Avenue North
is upgraded.
71 All rooftop mechanical r�tent and all outside
p q. ,
trash disposal facilities if any, shall be
appropriately screened.
80 All. concrete walkways 'on site shall be
repaired. ';:
9� The north edge of the Fralme Avenue parking
area shall be appropriatellt curbed as approved
by the City Engineer.
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10. The building shall be qquipped with an
automatic fire extinguishing system
meeting N.F.P.A. Standard No. 13.
The motion passed unanimously.
Draft Ordinance Amendment The next item of business was consideration of
to Chapter 35 Relative to a draft ordinance amendment to Chapter 35 regarding
Side yard Setback Standards sideyard setback standards. The Secretary read the
City Council minutes for September 13, 1976 wherein
the Council directed the staff to prepare and the
Planning Commission to review an amendment which
would provide for a minimum dwelling sideyard
is setback of not less than five feet on one side,
provided the total sideyard setback distance on a
lot was not less than fifteen feet. He stated the
Council action had been taken preceding approval of
Application No. 75035 submitted by Mr. Jack Welsh.
An extensive discussion ensued.
Chairman Foreman stated that the proposed amendment
was not worthy of consideration unless the revised
setback standards reflected the current minimum
standard of three feet for accessory buildings
resulting in a total sideyard distance of thirteen
feet.
Commissioner Horan inquired as to the intent of the
language relative to no accessory buildings in the
minimum ten foot sideyard between the dwelling and
lot line, and the Secretary responded that this was
to assure access to the rear yard for possible
future garage construction.
Action Disapproving Motion by Commissioner Engdahl , seconded by Commissioner
Draft Ordinance Amendment Scott, to disapprove the draft ordinance change as
submitted.
Further discussion ensued and Commissioner Kohrt
stated that he felt this was a major issue with
community-wide ramifications, and he felt it
merited careful joint consideration by the Commission
and Council . He stated the issue had been tossed
back and forth long enough and that a thorough review
and analysis of an ordinance standard change should
be made.
Commissioner Pierce stated that he felt there were
a number of related concerns in reducing the sideyard
setback distance, such as the relation to the height
of the building and he felt that perhaps further review
would assure complete understanding of an ordinance
standard change.
Chairman Foreman called for a vote. Voting in favor:
Chairman Foreman, Commissioners Engdahl , Scott, and
Jacobson. Voting against: Commissioners Horan,
Pierce, and Kohrt. The motion passed.
Commissioners Engdahl and Jacobson stated that they
did not feel the proposed ordinance change was
desirable; that the ordinance standards should be
left unchanged: that the .Commission has previously
conveyed this recommendation; and, that the community
• attitude survey earlier this year re-enforced that
recommendation.
Adjournment Motion by Commissioner Engdahl , seconded by
Commissioner Jacobson to adjourn the meeting. The
motion passed unanimously. The Planning Commission
meeting adjourned at 12:40 p.m.
Chairman
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