HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971 11-04 PCM Minutes of the Proceedings of the
Planning Commission of the City of
Brooklyn Center in the County of
Hennepin and State of Minnesota
November 4, 1971
The Planning Commission met in regular session and was called
to order by Chairman Robert Jensen at 8:05 P.M.
Roil Calls Chairman Robert Jensen, Commissioners Scott,
Foreman, Ditter and Bogucki. Also present were: Director of
Public Works James Merila, Chief Building Inspector Jean Murphey,
and Administrative Assistant Blair Tremere.
Motion by Commissioner Ditter and seconded by Commissioner
Scott to approve the minutes of the October 21, 1971, meeting.
All voted in favor except for Commissioner Foreman who abstained
since he was not at the October 21st meeting. The motion carried.
Commissioner Grosshans arrived at 8:10 P.M.
Following the Chairman's explanation, the first item of
business was Planning Commission Application No. 71054 submitted
by Brian Murn.
The item was introduced by Mr. Murphey who commented that the
applicant is seeking site and building plan approval for a property.
located in the southwest quadrant of Brooklyn Boulevard and 65th
Avenue North. He noted that rezoning from R-5 to C-1 was approved
by the City council January 19, 1970, to permit the construction
of a dental clinic. He noted also that the application for rezoning
was recommended by the West Central Neighborhood Committee with
the suggestion that a clinic is a needed service in this area.
Chairman Jensen then recognized Mr. John Rauma representing
the applicant who further explained the intended development to
the Commissioners.
After a brief discussion, a motion was made by Commissioner
Bogucki and seconded by Commissioner Foreman to recommend approval
of Planning Commission Application No. 71054 subject to the
following conditions:
1. Cast in-place concrete curbing in the parking lot
be arranged to the satisfaction of the City Engineer;
2. Drainage and utility plans are subject to the approval
of the City Engineer prior to the issuance of a
building permit;
3. Building plans are subject to the approval of the
Building Inspector with respect to applicable
building codes;
4. A performance agreement and performance bond (in an
amount to be determined by the City Manager) shall
be submitted to the City to guarantee the site
improvements as designated on the plans submitted.
The motion carried unanimously.
The next item of business was Planning Commission Application
No. 71055 submitted by R. L. Ernst.
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The item was introduced by Mr. Murphey who stated the appli-
cant is seeking site and building plan approval for a convenience
center to be located at 69th Avenue and Girard Avenue North. He
further noted that the proposed site is part of -Lot 2, Hi crest
Square Addition, lying east of the property that has approval for
a "Rapid Shop" that faces on Humboldt Avenue. He noted the appli-
cation also includes the subdivision of a lot which could not be
considered because of the lack of time for newspaper publication.
Commissioner Foreman stated that he would not take part
in the deliberation of this application since he was an officer
and director of a corporation which was presently negotiating for
an option on -a property which included the parcel in question.
Mr. Murphey stated that it was the opinion of the staff that
approval of this application would isolate the remainder of Lot 2,
with the only possible access being at the Southwest corner over
land the applicant does not own, or at the northeast corner over
a 40 foot wide roadway which would be part of the remainder of
Lot 2. He further stated that if the remainder of Lot 2 can be
developed as s single use such as R-5 apartments, then the proposed
convenience center would fit quite well, but if the lot remainder
is to be developed for commercial uses, serious problems relating
to access, setback and screening could arise.
Chairman Jensen then recognized the applicant, Mr. Ernst,
who stated that he had a contract to purchase the parcel as well
as the remainder of the lot and that it would be his intent to
develop the remainder of Lot 2 with a residential use. He also
noted that the application before the Commission was for a multi-
btlsi neon r-orivPnionce center.
A discussion ensued wherein Chairman jonssu commented as to
the adequacy of the proposed parking and access to the convenience
center as depicted on the plans submitted. Commissioner Bogucki
stated that there was a need for a conceptual plan for the entire
area and that this was vital in order to adequately evaluate the
present proposal. with respect to the future need for a possible
seven foot easement for the installation of a sidewalk, the
Director of Public Works commented that sidewalks would be put in
when the County widens 69th Avenue. The applicant stated that he
would be agreeable to granting a seven foot easement for that
purpose.
Commissioner Grosshans commented that the main problem
appeared to be adequate access to the convenience center and
Chairman Jensen stated that more detailed conceptual plans for
the entire tract were necessary.
The Director of Public Works commented that the plans submitted
by the applicant were very preliminary and that they had not
afforded the staff much opportunity for a thorough review and
there were possible ramifications that would be undesirable if the
project were approved without more detailed planning.
Following further discussion, a motion was made by Commissioner
Ditter and seconded by commissioner Scott to table Planning
Commission Application No. 71055 for further study. Those voting
in favor were: Chairman Jensen, Commissioners Scott, Ditter, Bogucki
and Grosshans. Commissioner Foreman abstained. The motion carried.
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The next item of business was consideration of Planning
Commission Application No. 71056 submitted by Federal Lumber
Company.
Mr. Murphey introduced the application, stating the applicant
is requesting site and building plan approval for a 24 foot by
168 foot lumber storage building. He noted that the building was
very similar to one that was approved in 1969. He commented that
the applicant desires to build without using a fire extinguishing
system. He noted the applicant had listed the following reasons
for this desire:
1. The building would be entirely open on the north
side and would be unheated;
2. None of the other buildings and sheds have sprinkling
systems;
3. Water supply lines would not be readily available
and the cost of installation would be prohibitive.
Chairman Jensen recognized Mr. Rosenbaum who represented the
applicant and he stated that in effect, the applicant desired to
just put a roof over standing lumber which was already there.
Following a brief discussion of alternative fire extinguishing
systems, a motion was made by Commissioner Scott and seconded by
Commissioner Bogucki to recommend approval of Planning Commission
Application No. 71056 subject to the following conditions:
1. Fire extincyiishers shall be installed as required
by the City Fire Marshal_ and a report from the
Fire Marshal shall be made to the City Council;
2. Drainage and utility plans are subject to the
approval of the City Engineer prior to the issuance
of a building permit;
3. Building plans are subject to the approval of the
Building Inspector with respect to applicable
building codes;
4. A performance agreement and performance bond (in an
amount to be determined by the City Manager) shall
be submitted to the City to guarantee the site
improvements as designated on the plans submitted.
The motion carried unanimously.
The next item considered was Planning Commission Application
No. 71058 submitted by United National Investments.
The item was introduced by Mr. Murphey who stated the appli-
cant is requesting approval for a 48 car parking lot to be located
on the east side of Logan Avenue adjacent to Northbrook Shopping
Center. He noted the purpose of the request is for employee
parking and to supplement the regular on-site parking facilities.
Mr. Murphey stated that staff analysis indicated the south
55 feet of the proposed parking lot is zoned R4 and the north 75
feet is zoned Cl. He stated that public parking lots are only
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permitted as accessory uses in any of the City's zoning classifi-
cations, and must be located on the same property with the use to
which it is accessory. He commented that Section 35-240, (2) states
that the Planning Commission and the City Council shall in no
case permit as a variance any use that is not permitted under the
ordinance in the district where the affected person's land is
located.
A discussion ensued wherein Chairman Jensen stated that it
appeared the application presented the possibility of the
creation of a parking zone district which would require an
amendment to the Zoning Ordinance. He said that this would
require a hearing by neighborhood residents as well as further
research by the staff. He noted also that there was a need to
consider screening should this use be allowed.
The Director of Public Works, James Merila, commented that there
was a vital need for more traffic planning relative to the entire
Northbrook Center. He stated that he had discussed this with
officials of the Northbrook Center, especially with regard to the
increasing number of traffic problems on 57th Avenue. He stated
that possibly this aspect of the traffic situation could be
included in the deliberation of the present application.
After further discussion, a, motion was made by Commissioner
Grosshans and seconded by Commissioner Foreman to table Planning
Commission Application No. 71058 for further study to include
analysis and recommendation on the over-all traffic situation
for the Northbrook Center. The motion carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission next reviewed Planning Commission
Application No. 71059 submitted by Home Federal Savings and Loan.
The item was introduced by Mr. Murphey who stated that
the applicant was seeking approval for the installation of a
driveway around the present bank building located at 2901 Northway
Drive, as well as the installation of a drive-up banking window.
He further noted that the application appears to be in order
and conforms to ordinance requirements.
The Director of Public Works commented that there were some
apparent problems with the drainage plans that could potentially
create icing problems along the newly installed sidewalks. He
stated that the staff could work with the applicant in resolving
these problems.
Motion by Commissioner Scott and seconded by Commissioner
Bogucki to recommend approval of Planning Commission Application
No. 71059 subject to the following conditions;
1. Grading of the driveway and drainage plans are
subject to the approval of the City Engineer prior
to the issuance of a building permit;
2. Building plans are subject to the approval of the
Building Inspector with respect to applicable
building codes.
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3. A performance agreement and performance bond (in an
amount to be determined by the City Manager) shall
be submitted to the City to guarantee the site
improvements as designated on the plans submitted.
The motion carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission recessed at 9:40 P.M. and reconvened
at 10:15 P.M.
Chairman Jensen announced that the Commission would continue
with its deliberations on sign variance requests, specifically,
the pending applications for variances submitted by Topeka Inn
Management relative to the Holiday Inn under construction.
Chairman Jensen recognized Mr. Pringle representing Topeka
Inn Management. Mr. Pringle stated that the applicant felt there
was a need for a sign larger than that provided in the ordinance
due to the volume and high speed of freeway traffic as well as the
unique topographical problems experienced at the motel site. He
then presented to the Commission various photographs and layout
prints of the site and sight distance data which had been compiled.
He stated that the sign the applicant would like to erect is
approximately 830 square feet in area and is known as the
"Standard Great Sign". Mr. Pringle commented that the motel
contractor has indicated that the sign materials should be
ordered as soon as possible so construction can be completed
by the scheduled opening date in the Spring of 1972.
A lengthy discussion ensued during which Chairman Jensen
stated that the Commission and eventually the City Council
should give consideration to the creation of a freeway sign district,
recognizing the particular problems and needs of freeway oriented
businesses. Commissioner Ditter stated that the applicant should
investigate further the availability of signs smaller than the
"Standard Great Sign" . He stated that possibily the applicant
should consider a more feasible alternative before seeking a variance
from the sign ordinance.
Commissioner Foreman stated that he was sympathic with the
claims of the applicant, especially with respect to the topographical
problems. Commissioner Grosshans stated that thorough consideration
should be given to the traffic velocity and volume along the
freeway and the related need to adequately identify the business.
He stated, however, an 830 square foot sign was unusually large as
compared to the 250 square foot maximum allowed in the ordinance.
He suggested that the applicant should determine the availability
of custom made signs which would be more in line with the sign
ordinance. Commissioner Scott commented that rather than granting
a variance to the present ordinance, that possibly an addition
could be made to the ordinance which would comprehend future
developments along the freeway.
Mr. Pringle stated that he would prepare further data relative
to the applicant's claim that a larger sign was needed and would
investigate the availability of a custom made sign of a smaller
size than the "Standard Great Sign". He stated that he would make
this information available to the staff and the Commission prior
to the November 18th study session.
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After further discussion, a motion was made by Commissioner
Sogucki, seconded by Commissioner Scott to direct the staff to
prepare a memorandum setting forth the data which could be used
in preparing a resolution recommending approval of the variance
request as well as a resolution recommending denial of the
application, to be presented to the Commission at the November
18th meeting. The motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Pringle stated that the applicant intended to seek a
variance which would permit the erection of a sign displaying
the Holiday Inn script on the roof of the motel. He stated that
the sign would be approximately 15 feet high whereas the ordinance
allowed for a 6 foot high roof sign. He noted that the sign would
be lighted.
Chairman Jensen then informally polled the Commission
relative to this request and it was the consensus of the Commission
that such a roof sign would not be desirable.
Chairman Jensen commented that Planning Commission Application
No. 71041 submitted by White Advertising requested a variance
to permit erection of a temporary sign on the Holiday Inn site
which would identify the development.
Mr. Murphey commented that this is a request for a variance
from the ordinance and it would be necessary to conduct a public
hearing on the matter.
Motion by Commissioner Rogucki and seconded by Commissioner
Scott to send notice of public hearing to the affected property
owners and to publish an announcement of a public hearing on the
variance requested in Planning Commission Application No. 71041.
The motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Commissioner Scott and seconded by Commissioner
Ditter to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 11:55 P.M.
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