HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971 12-16 PCM Minutes of the Proceedings of the
Planning Commission of the City of
Brooklyn Center in the County of
Hennepin and State of Minnesota
December 16, 1971
The Planning Commission met in study session and was called to
order by Chairman Robert Jensen at 8:00 P.M.
Roll Call; Chairman Jensen, Commissioners Grosshans, Bogucki,
Ditter, Foreman and Scott. Also present were: City Manager Donald
Poss, Director of Public Works James Merila, Chief Building Inspector
Jean Murphey and Administrative Assistant Blair Tremere.
The City Manager offered comments relative to the interpretation
of the Sign Ordinance philosophy and stated his concern over the
possible ramifications of granting an increasing number of variances
requested by new and existing businesses and property owners. He
stated that the numerous requests claiming special circumstances
as well as, or in lieu of, the ordinance standards of uniqueness and
hardship should be closely scrutinized to assure uniform interpretation
and enforcement of the ordinance provisions.
Chairman Jensen acknowledged the City Manager's -comments,
stating that he agreed and that an increasing number of variance
requests concerning the same portion of the Sign Ordinance represented
attacks against the philosophy of that portion of the ordinance, and
that the Commission must decide whether it always agrees with that
philosophy. He stated that in some isolated cases, the variance is
tbe best route with the recognition that the strength of the ordinance
philosophy is not being diluted. He noted, however, that repeated
requests for variances must indicate that there is a need for
re-examination of the basic ordinance provisions.
The City ,Manager left-. the Commission meeting at 8:35 P.M.
Motion by Commissioner Bogucki, seconded by Commissioner Foreman
to approve the minutes of the December 2, 1971 meeting, noting that
that meeting adjourned at 1:15 A.M. The motion carried unanimously.
The next item of business was consideration of Planning
Commission Application No. 71054 submitted by Murn and Swenson
requesting revised site and building plan approval.
The item was introduced by the Secretary who commented that the
original application was approved on November 4, 1971, but was with-
drawn by the applicant prior to review by the City Council. He
stated that the building has been changed from a Type IV with a
usable basement to a Type V with an unusable basement area. He noted
that a Type IV is all structural elements being incombustible with
steel roof, joists, and metal deck; and that a Type V is all wood
frame construction with wood roof, joists, and deck. He stated that
the proposed revision will provide the same amount of first floor
office space at a considerable reduction in construction cost.
Mr. Murphey commented that it was his opinion that the
exterior of the building should be of a brick veneer, rather than the
proposed wood siding, for durability purposes. He noted also that
the City Engineer had recommended a change relative to an area
south of the proposed building where drainage will cause ponding,
and that the Engineer had suggested that a dry well would remedy the
the situation.
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Chairman Jensen then recognized Mr. Rauma who represented the
applicant and who stated that the reason for the revision was to
make the project economically feasible. He noted another proposed
revision was the intent to construct a partial basement of approxi-
mately 1300 square feet which would be used for storage as well
as for housing certain mechanical devices essential to a dental clinic
operation.
Commissioner Ditter inquired whether the proposed addition of a'
partial basement area would affect the parking requirements. Mr.
Murphey respoflded that it would not, as long as the area were used
only for utilities or storage and is not occupied.
A discussion ensued relative to the exterior finish of the
building and Mr. Murphey commented that selection of the proposed
wood exterior solely on an economic basis, was questionable, con-
sidering that there would be substantial maintenance costs involved.
He noted again that the staff recommended a brick veneer for durability
purposes as well as aesthetic purposes. Mr. Rauma commented that the
applicant felt there were substantial differences in cost and that at
this time, it was essential to cut costs as much as possible.
The Director of Public Works noted that the Engineering Department
would need to examine the proposed utility area since it is a part
of the revised building and site plan.
Following further discussion,. there was a motion by Commissioner
Bogucki., seconded by Commissioner Foreman, to recommend approval of
Planning Commission Application No. 71054 submitted by Murn and
Swenson subject to the following conditions;
1. That an exterior lighting plan detailing fixtures and
light intensity be submitted for staff approval;
2. That all mechanical equipment located on the roof shall
be adequately screened;
3. There shall be a stair leading to a scuttle in the roof
and such stair, scuttle, railings, etc. , shall comply
with the requirements of the State Building Code;
4. That the State Fire Marshal's rules and regulations
governing public buildings and providing accessibility
and usability features for physically handicapped
persons shall be observed;
S. Utility and drainage plans are subject to the approval
of the City Engineer prior to the issuance of a building
permit;
6. Building plans are subject to the approval of the
Building Inspector with respect to applicable
building codes;
7. A performance agreement and performance bond (in an amount
to be determined by the City manager) shall be submitted
to the City to guarantee the site improvements as designated
on the plans submitted.
Further discussion ensued concerning the issue of the exterior
finish. Commissioner Ditter inquired as to why the staff recommended
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the brick veneer, and Commissioner Bogucki stated that it was solely
a matter of aesthetics, and that the City could not arbitrarily enforce
an aesthetic policy. The Secretary responded that the City had an
established policy relative to this type of building, and that there
was, in his opinion, a need for a more durable finish. Commissioner
Bogucki commented that there is abundant evidence that the proposed
wood slat siding will be sufficiently durable., and Chairman Jensen
noted that there is definitely an aesthetic consideration. The
Building Inspector responded to a question by Commissioner Grosshans
relative to fire resistant material requirements stating that such
requirements depend entirely upon the establishment of fire zones
which the City of Brooklyn Center does not have. He commented that
the exterior finish proposed by the applicant is allowed by the
ordinance and there is nothing in the ordinance which prohibits the
construction of the proposed building.
Chairman Jensen then called for a vote on the motion. Those
voting in favor: Chairman Jensen, Commissioners Grosshans, Bogucki,
Ditter, Foreman and Scott. Those voting against: none. Motion
carried unanimously.
The next item of business was consideration of Planning
Commission Application No. 71031 submitted by Bermel Smaby.
The item was introduced by Mr. Murphey who stated that the
applicant was seeking revised site and building plan approval, and
that the application was originally approved on September 2, 1971,
for a three story, 13,200 square foot office building. He noted
that the revised application is a request for approval for a two
story, 10,666 square foot office building with 54 parking spaces
provided, meeting the ordinance parking requirements. He further
explained some revisions the staff had made relative to design of
the parking lot and he commented that provisions should be made for
accessibility to handicapped persons as required by the State Fire
Marshal 's regulations.
Chairman Jensen recognized representatives of the applicant
who offered comments relative to the proposed change in the site
and building plan.
Following a brief discussion, there was a motion by Commissioner
Scott and seconded by Commissioner Ditter to recommend approval of
Planning Commission Application No. 71031 submitted by Bermel Smaby
Realty, Inc., subject to the following conditions:
1. All mechanical equipment located on the roof shall be
adequately screened;
2. Whenever there is any mechanical equipment located on
the roof, there shall be a stair leading to a scuttle
in the roof and such stair, scuttle, railings, etc. ,
shall comply with the requirements of the State Building
Code;
3. That an exterior lighting plan detailing fixtures
and light intensity be submitted for staff approval;
4a That an opaque fence four foot high shall be located
along the noth property line extending from 15 feet
inside the east line to 15 feet inside the west line;
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5. Utility and drainage plans are subject to the approval
of the City Engineer prior to the issuance of a building
permit;
6. Building plans are subject to the approval of the
Building Inspector with respect to applicable building
codes;
7. A performance agreement and performance bond (in an amount
to be determined by the City Manager) shall be submitted
to the City to guarantee site improvements as designated
on the plans submitted;
8. State Fire Marshal's rules and regulations governing
public buildings in providing accessibility and usability
features for physically handicapped persons shall be
observed.
The motion carried unanimously.
The next item of business was consideration of Planning
Commission Application No. 71075 submitted by Brooklyn Center
industrial Park, IuC. , requesting approval of a Registered Land
Survey.
The item was introduced by the Secretary who commented that the
applicant is seeking approval of a Registered Land Survey which
would subdivide Outlot C, Brooklyn Center Industrial Park Plat,
into two tracts of land.
Chairman Jensen recognized Mr. Steve Krogness, representative
of the applicant, and asked for the reasons for the request. Mr.
Krogness responded that approval of the Registered Land Survey
is sought for purposes of division of ownership for finance and
mortgage purposes at this time, and that the financing contains appro-
priate release provisions to assure control,
The Director of Public works offered comments relative to the
City's concern that, if the Registered Land Survey is approved,
it will not serve as a detriment to the proper subdivision of the land
in the future, considering especially possible roadway development
by the Highway Department or the City. Mr. Krogness stated that the
applicant had submitted a letter to the City indicating that approval
of the proposed Registered Land Survey would in no way inhibit or
impair the development of the area to its highest and best use for the
community.
Following further discussion, there was a motion by Commissioner
Grosshans, seconded by Commissioner Foreman, to recommend approval
of Planning Commission Application No. 71075 submitted by Brooklyn
Center Industrial Park, Inc. The motion carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission recessed at 9:30 P.M. and reconvened
at 9:50 P.M.
The next item of business was reconsideration of Planning
Commission Application No. 71050 submitted by Topeka Inn Management,
requesting a variance from the height requirements of the sign
ordinance.
The item was introduced by the Secretary who noted that the
Commission had recommended approval of the application recommending
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a height variance of 60 feet at its November 18, 1971 meeting and
that the Council, at its December 6, 1971 meeting had referred the
application back to the Commission, in that the applicant had
verbally requested consideration of a variance which would permit a
sign at least 80 feet in height.
The Secretary explained that it was the consensus of the Council
that a variance permitting a 60 foot sign was adequate and could be
justified in this instance given the following considerations:
1. The potential patrons of the motel are comprised
mainly of itinerant, out of town motorists who are
unfamiliar with the area;
2. Primary patronage of the motel will be realized during
the evening and night time hours;
3. The velocity and volume of freeway traffic merits
special consideration relative to the identification of
and the access to the motel;
4. The location of the motel and topography of the area
presents certain problems relative to the use of a
freestanding sign to identify the motel.
The Secretary presented recent sight-distance data acquired by
the applicant and verified by members of the City staff who were
present when the material was prepared. He noted that the City
Council had examined the data.
Commissioner Grosshans left the table at 9:55 P.M.
Chairman Jensen commented that the evidence showed that a 60
foot high sign could be seen for some distance and that an 80 foot
sign did not appear to significantly enhance the distant sighting
and identification of the sign. He then polled members of the
Commission as to their opinion of the applicant's proposal and
determined that it was the consensus of the Commission that a 60
foot sign adequately fulfilled the purpose of such a sign.
Motion by Commissioner Bogucki, seconded by Commissioner Scott
to re-affirm the Planning Commission's action of November 18, 1971,
to recommend approval of Planning Commission Application No. 71050
as amended, recommending a height variance of 60 feet. Upon a vote
being taken, the following voted in favor thereof: Chairman Jensen,
Commissioners Bogucki, Ditter, Foreman, and Scott. Those voting
against: none. The motion carried. (Commissioner Grosshans
was not present at the time of the vote.)
The Secretary next explained that the Council had denied, on
December 6, 1971, Planning Commission Application No. 71071
submitted by Developers Diversified, noting that the standards for
granting a variance from the ordinance had not been met. He further
stated that the Council had approved a motion to advise the
Planning Commission that, should the applicant appeal the staff
interpretation of the Sign Ordinance defining the proposed sign as a
roof sign, it is the majority opinion of the Council that the appli-
cant's proposed front wall design, including the sign, appears to
be an integral part of the wall, rather than a part of the roof
structure. He stated that the Council also noted that the mansard
like structure of the front wall design does not extend around
the building.
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Commissioner Grosshans returned to the meeting at 10:30 P.M.
A lengthy discussion ensued relative to the intent of the
ordinance, the present interpretation of the ordinance, and the
ramifications of concurring with the applicant's appeal.
Chairman Jensen commented that should the appeal be granted,
with the ordinance left unchanged, then the staff might be confronted
with a variety of future problems. He stated a precedent would
definitely be established, and that serious consideration should
be given to the basic provisions of the ordinance.
Commissioner Bogucki stated that it was important to fully
consider the impact on the staff in the future, should the granting
of the appeal be a precedent.
Further discussion ensued regarding the plans submitted by the
applicant as well as the definition of mansard roof design.
Motion by Commissioner Grosshans, seconded by Commissioner
Foreman to inform the City Council that, relative to the Council's
action of December 6, 1971, in the matter of Developers Diversified,
it is the consensus of the Planning Commission that the applicant's
proposed front wall design, including the sign, appears to be an
integral part of the wall, rather than part of the roof structure;
and, that the Commission recognizes that the staff interpretation
is based upon the definition of a roof line as stated in
Section 34-110 of the City Ordinances, and is not an arbitrary
ruling of the staff. The motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Commissioner Foreman and seconded by Commissioner
Scott to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 11:10 P.M.
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