HomeMy WebLinkAbout1972 07-13 PCM Minutes of the Proceedings of the
Planning Commission of the City of
Brooklyn Center in the County of
Hennepin and State of Minnesota
July 13, 1972
The Planning Commission met in special session and was called
to order by Chairman Robert Jensen at 7:30 P.M.
Roll Call: Chairman Jensen, Commissioners Grosshans, Bogucki,
Foreman, Scott, Gross and Engdahl. Also present were: Director of
Public works James Merila, City Attorney Richard Shieffer and
Administrative Assistant Blair Tremere.
The first item of business was continued consideration of the
proposed off--site accessory parking ordinance amendment. Chairman
Jensen noted that the City Attorney had been asked to consider the
matter of permitting the off-site accessory parking spaces to serve as
credits towards the parking requirements of the principal use, as
well as the matter of whether the site of the accessory off-site
parking should be zoned the same as the principal use.
The City Attorney stated that, in effect, passage of the ordinance
would be a type of rezoning of that land within the designated distance
of the principal use, namely 300 feet. He explained that since the
special use was provided for in each of the zoning districts, it did
not appear requiring the off-site location to be zoned the same as
the principal use was necessary.
Relative to the issue of permitting the off-site accessory
parking spaces to serve as credits towards the parking requirements
of the principal use, the City Attorney responded to a question by
Commissioner Grosshans that restrictive covenants or deed restrictions
were not the most useful controls, from the City' s point of view,
in that they represented agreements between two property owners and
were not necessarily subject to City involvement.
He stated that it appeared the major City control, as the
ordinance was proposed, was the special use permit.
Chairman Jensen reiterated the consensus of the Commission that
the language providing for use of the off-site spaces for parking
credit purposes should be eliminated. Commissioners Grosshans
amplified that comment, and stated his concern was with the long run,
wherein the off--site lots could be sold and potentially the parking
provisions on the principal use site would be substandard. He stated
there was a need for assurance that the parking approved off-site
would be additional parking. only.
Responding to Commissioner Bogucki's comment that it was vital
to require sufficient parking on the site of the principal use, the
City Attorney stated that the adoption of the proposed amendment,
including a provision for use of the additional spaces for credit
purposes, could dilute the intent and effect of the ordinance
parking requirements. The Attorney noted in addition that it was
probable the deletion of that language from the ordinance might
not seem reasonable to businessmen who possibly would desire to use
the additional parking for credit purposes.
The Secretary stated that it appeared the alternatives before
the Commission were four: to recommend the amendment as presented;
to recommend the amendment less the language relative to utilizing
additional spaces for principal use credit purposes; to create
throughout the City parking zones; or, to not adopt any amendment.
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The City Attorney stated in that regard the decision was a matter
of planning policy.
Commissioner Grosshans reiterated his concern regarding the
implementation or enforcement of the provisions of the proposed
ordinance amendment, particularly with regard to the effectiveness
of covenants or deed restrictions. Chairman Jensen stated that
it was apparent further discussion would be required on these points
and stated the matter would be held over until the next study meeting.
Relative to another matter, the Chairman asked the Attorney
to comment whether the density, or the type of structure was the
controlling factor in determining proper land use. The Attorney
responded generally that one has to consider more than density
alone. He noted, for example, in the case of setback requirements,
more is involved than just density per se, in that the word itself
connoted the type of surroundings and structure, namely, concerns
of light, air and view. He further noted that, the City Ordinance
provisions relative to land use generally comprehended this
consideration.
Chairman Jensen noted that a number of applicants were present
for the matters scheduled on the agenda of the special meeting and
he proceeded with the Chairman's explanation of the proceedings.
The first item of business was Planning Commission Application
No. 72053 submitted by Robert Hillstrom and others. The item was
introduced by the Secretary who explained the applicants proposed
the rezoning of the properties generally located between Bryant and
Camden Avenues North and 67th and 68th Avenues North from Rl to R2
to permit the construction of two unit dwellings.
He further stated that the applicant intends to develop double
unit dwellings for rental purposes and that the application was sub-
mitted for the required public hearing of neighboring property owners
who had been notified.
Chairman Jensen then recognized Mr. Hillstrom, an attorny for
one of the fee owners and a representative of the developers, and
inquired why the zoning change was necessary. Mr. Hillstrom responded
that the developers feel that such a development is in demand, part-
icularly in this area, where the land, as zoned Rl, had not been
sold. He stated the intent would be to attract tenants less transient
than apartment dwellers. He noted also that there was an R3 townhouse
development to the south.
Chairman Jensen inquired as to whether there was one ownership
of the proposed development and Mr. Hillstrom responded that a
partnership of several individuals was involved.
A discussion ensued relative to the type of dwellings proposed
by the developer and the meeting recessed at 8:20 P.M. to permit the
Commissioners and interested property owners to view models of the
proposed structures. The meeting resumed at 8:25 P.M.
Mr. Hillstrom stated that the development would be a totally
planned project built in one phase, in a time frame of less than one
year. He stated the total value was in excess of one million dollars
and that the units had been preliminarily appraised at approximately
$50,000 apiece.
Chairman Jensen then called upon the affected property owners
who had been notified of the hearing. He was given and read into
the file a petition containing signatures of 53 home owners declaring
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that they were against the rezoning of the property for the reasons
stated on the petition.
Chairman Jensen then proceeded to read the names of the notified
property owners and recognized 13 of the 41 who were notified. Those
persons recognized unanimously objected to the rezoning.
Chairman Jensen then summarized the general concern of the neigh-
boring property owners: problems with the nearby Georgetown Court
apartments, which were rental units, and thus concern that more
rental units would intensify problems such as traffic, parking,
general nuisances such as vandelism, and pressure on the increasing
number of students at area schools. He further noted the concern of
the property owners that rezoning action did not entail the commitment
as to time frame for the proposed development.
Chairman Jensen further noted the procedure followed by the
Commission in rezoning matters and noted that input from the public
hearing was one of the major factors considered. He explained the
requirements of the ordinance for public hearing and noted the
Commission awareness of the possible ramifications of a change in
land use, commenting that the matter would be referred to the neigh-
borhood study groups before any final action was taken. He then
called upon the petitioner for further remakrs.
Mr. Hillstrom reiterated that the project would be a one stage
development and noted that the units would be properly kept up, as
that was a primary concern of the owner. Chairman Jensen then
inquired as to what attempts had been made to develop the land at the
R1 density and Mr. Hillstrom responded that this was the first con-
crete effort to develop the subject land at all.
Chairman Jensen states] his concern that it appeared the petitioner
had not fully shown the need for rezoning. Mr. Hillstrom responded
that other land in the City had been rezoned from R1 to even higher
uses, and that the contention of the applicant was that he was willing
to develop at this time a project which was perceived as that
demanded by the market.
Chairman Jensen then recognized one of the partners of the pro-
posed development who commented that quality maintenance and manage-
ment of the development was a prime concern of the owners and that
conditions which were feared by the neighboring property owners
would not be permitted.
Motion by Commissioner Foreman, seconded by Commissioner Gross
to close the public hearing. The motion passed unanimously.
Chairman Jensen then caILled for comments from the Commission.
Commissioner Gross commented relative to the number of units and
stated his concern with the possibility that housing developments of
even higher density might be required of Brooklyn Center as a matter
of Metropolitan Planning policy. Commissioner Bogucki stated that he
was not impressed with the design of the buildings and commented
relative to some of the remarks made by the neighboring property
owners relative to problems of rental units . He noted that some R1
districts, comprised of ho=ne owners, are not without problems.
He noted the intent of the Comprehensive Plan for the City was to
provide housing for all people.
Chairman Jensen summarized the discussion and noted the main
question was one of determining proper land use. He stated concerns
were for the appropriate use in the area, the rights of the property
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owners, including the applicant, the effect of the type of zoning
upon the neighborhood as well as the matters discussed during the
public hearing.
Following further discussion there was a motion by Commissioner
Gross and seconded by Commissioner Bogucki to table Planning Commissior
Application No. 72053 submitted by Robert A. Hillstrom and others
and to submit the questions to the neighborhood group for further
input. The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting recessed at 9:40 P.M. and resumed at 9:55 P.M.
The next item of business was Planning Commission Application
No. 72045 submitted by Fox Run, Inc. The item was introduced by the
Secretary who noted that the application was presented for conceptual
review only. He also stated that a draft of a proposed ordinance
vehicle comprehending Planned Residential Development had been
prepared, and copies were presented to the Commissioners. He stated
that such an ordinance vehicle was required prior to final approval
of the plans for a development such as that property.
Chairman Jensen stated that the proposed ordinance provision
would be placed on the agenda of the next regular meeting.
He then recognized Mr. Milt Bruflodt and Mr. Dick Walsh, who
represented the developer. Mr. Bruflodt briefly commented relative
to the density of the proposed project, noting that it was to be
constructed within the requirements of the R3 district and he pre-
sented sketches and renderings.
The Secretary stated the development comprehends the construction
of condominium apartment units and townhouses to be built in phases
upon the 62.7 acre site. He noted that some of the initial observation
and concerns of the staff included the status of the Home Owner's
Association membership, in that it was not fully clear as to what
the relationship of membership in a given phase of Fox Run had to
membership in Fox Run as a whole.
He further noted that one of the most crucial factors involved
in the proposal was drainage of the site. He stated substantial
engineering and detailed planning would be needed.
Chairman Jensen inquired what the time frame of the construction
of the project would be. Mr. Bruflodt responded that it was a matter
or economics, and Mr. Walsh states; that the First Mortgage Investment
Company, who would be financing the project, had conducted a feasibili-
study which indicated the maximum time frame would be three years.
He stated Phase One should be completed about the Spring of 1973,
Phase Two in later 1973, and Phase Three in 1974. He further
commented that this represented the first full scale condominium
apartment development in the State of Minnesota.
commissioner Gross stated his concern with the poor soil condition
in the area and noted the proximity of some of the townhouses to
Shingle Creek.
Commissioner Engdahl stated his concern with the provisions of
the Home Owner's Association agreement, and inquired exactly what
the status of membership in a phase association was relative to the
membership in the Fox Run Association as an entire project.
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Mr. Walsh responded that basically there would be one Home
Owner's Association, and that members of the Home Owner's Association
in Phase One would merge with Phase Two, if and when Phase Two was
constructed and completed. He stated that similarly, Phase One and
Two, as a Home Owner's Association, would be eventually merged
with Phase Three. He stated there was a legal question involved
as to exactly what point the mergers would occur. He emphasized
that the developers propose each phase would be a self-conta$.red
unit.
Commissioner Engdahl further inquired as to whether members in
the Phase One development would be required to pay more to merge
with Phase Two, so as to enjoy the amenities of the recreation
building and facilities scheduled for construction in Phase Two.
Mr. Walsh responded that members of Phase One would have use
of the recreation building and other amenities, if and when Phase
Two was finished, and that the membership would be according to the
terms of their original contract with the Fox Run Home Owner's
Association.
Commissioner Gross stated his additional concern with the traffic
generated, and the intensity of the present traffic on 73rd Avenue
Borth, including the possible effect of townhouses which would be
included in Phase One according to the provisions of the proposed
ordinance.
Chairman Jensen noted that the matter was before the Commission
as a conceptual review, and that while there were problems which
could br resolved, such as the condition of the land and various
necessary easements, the project as a whole seemed to be a quality
proposal and concept. He then polled the Commission and Commissioner
Engdahl stated that other than his basic concern with the status of
the Home Owner's Association and the financial obligations upon the
members of any given phase, he felt the development was well planned.
Commissioner Gross stated his appreciation for the evident
planning effort involved in the project and stated that it was a
good lay-out.
Commissioner Scott agreed, and noted the extensive provision
for park and open space within the project. Commissioner Foreman
stated that the project appeared to be a quality proposed addition
to the City.
Commissioner Grosshans agreed and stated that the plan appeared
to represent a quality concept. Commissioner Bogucki stated that
there was obviously substantial effort in the conceptual planning,
and he was in favor of proceeding with more detailed planning.
The Director of Public Works commented relative to the need for
drainage and noted that the type of drainage proposed differs from
the conventional closed-system utilized in Brooklyn Centers. He noted
the applicant proposes an open drainage system, and that if this were
approved, it should be maintained as an open channel. He further
commented that concept approval was basic for further staff effort
regarding the detailed development of the project.
Following further discussion there was a motion by Commissioner
Gross, seconded by Commissioner Scott, to table Planning Commission
Application No. 72045 submitted by Fox Run, Inc. until the next
regular meeting. The motion carried unanimously.
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The next item of business was Planning Commission Application
No. 72052 submitted by McCarthy Construction Company. The Secretary
introduced the item and stated the applicant was requesting approval
of preliminary Registered Land Survey comprising six tracts in the
1600 block between 73rd Avenue North and Woodbine Lane. He noted
that proposed Tract "A" and "F" were previously reviewed and approved
by the Commission and Council as a part of variance Application No.
72017.
He noted that since the approval of that request, the applicant
had acquired the two parcels to the west. He further stated the
parcels were to be developed with single family dwellings.
After a brief discussion, there was a motion by Commissioner
Gross and seconded by Commissioner Bogucki to recommend approval
of Planning Commission Application No. 72052 submitted by McCarthy
Construction subject to the requirements of the platting ordinance,
the approval of the City Engineer, and the submission of documents
conveying appropriate utility and drainage easements. The motion
passed unanimously.
The next item of business was consideration of Application No.
72054 submitted by John Williams. The Secretary introduced the
application and stated the applicant's request is for a variance
from the five foot garage site rear yard setback requirement to
permit construction of a new structure abutting the property line
to the rear of 5409 Girard Avenue North.
The Secretary stated that the applicant had recently demolished
his aged garage, which was in the approximate location of the pro-
posed structure, but which had encroached several feet into the 14
foot alleyway. He stated a number of neighboring garages also
encorach upon the alleyway and the use of the alley has apparently
deviated from a "straight" course over the full width of the alley
through the years.
He explained that as a result of staff investigation it appeared
that the property owners presumed (incorrectly) that a number of
utility poles along the alley designated property lines.
The Secretary further noted the applicant was informed of the
setback requirements from his actual property lines, as defined by
himself, and he maintained a hardship would be realized due to the
size of the proposed structure, the location of a tree in his back
yard (easterly of the proposed structure) and the access to the garage
from the alley.
He further commented that the applicant owns the parcel to the
south, which is currently undeveloped, but that the applicant has
indicated that he would prefer not to build on it. It was noted
as well that no certified survey of the site had been submitted by
the applicant, but rather the applicant had obtained the site data
independently.
The Director of Public Works commented upon a survey analysis
conducted by the Engineering Department of the subject property.
He stated the basic concern of the staff was with the proposed
location of the garage and noted that the City was required to mainta.1
the alley, particularly in the winter, up to the property line. He
stated that without the setback, there would be no storage space
for snow, and that winter alley maintenance was a continuing source
of complaints from property owners to the street department.
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Chairman Jensen noted that none of the notified property owners
was present for the hearing before the Commission sitting as a Board
of Adjustments and Appeals. He then recognized the applicant who
stated that he perceived a hardship due to the location of a tree
in his back yard as well as his need for a big garage for parking of
cars and for storage.
Responding to a question as to whether he had considered other
locations for the garage such as the southerly parcel, Mr. Williams
commented that the present telephone poles would be in the way of
the access to the garage and that he did not intend to use the
south lot himself since he was concerned with the desires of future
owners who might consider development of the parcel.
The Director of Public Works also commented that should other
property owners secure registered land surveys, due possibly to the
construction of garages, difficulties could arise, once true
boundaries were established. He stated the primary concern with
this application was the ramifications over the long run. He commente
also that the survey team and the staff had not been able to determine
correct property corners.
A discussion ensued relative to the width of the alleys in the
City and the effect on the adjacent property owners.
Commissioner Bogucki stated that- recognizing the difficulties
faced by the applicant, as well as the potential problems for the
neighborhood, the applicant should secure a survey of the property.
The applicant responded that he had friends who were surveyors by
profession who had done the work for him which he felt they had
done what he considered an accurate survey.
The Director of Public Works emphasized that the City crew
had not intended to set property lines but had proceeded to just
determine the allay centerline and the existing situation in the
area from that point. The Secretary further commented that certified
survey data should be secured if the variance matter was to be
considered further.
Following further discussion there was a motion by Commissioner
Bogucki, seconded by Commissioner Scott, to recommend denial of
Planning Commission Application No. 72054 submitted by John Williams,
noting the lack of a certified survev needed to determine the actual
boundary of the property, as well as the apparent lack of a hardship
as grounds for granting a variance. The motion passed unanimously.
The next item of business was Planning Commission Application
No. 72055 submitted by Vanman Construction Company. The item was
introduced by the Secretary who stated the applicant was seeking
site and building plan approval for a church school addition to the
Northbrook Alliance Church west of the existing structure. Fie
further noted that the staff had been in consultation with the
applicant relative to the need for further data regarding elevations,
drainage and landscaping and stated that the applicant had submitted
some additional data to the Director of Public Works.
The Secretary noted the staff was especially concerned with the
possible ramifications of the imminent highway development and
upgrading of F.I . 94. He stated such plans could affect the design
of the proposed structure as well as the alignment of the internal
roadway. He further stated that consideration had been given the
current efforts of the Neighborhood Highvay Development Group and
that it did not seem desirable to impose unnecessary constraint
upon that group.
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Chairman Jensen recognized the applicant as well as officials
of the Northbrook Alliance Church who explained the site and
building plans and urged preliminary approval of the plans, due to
what was termed a great need for the Sunday School addition.
Commissioner Bogucki inquired whether the applicant and the
church officials were fully aware of the possible ramifications of
the development of the interstate or of the preliminary plans them-
selves. The response was in the negative.
The applicant further noted budget difficulties and coordination
problems between the church and the construction company, which were
responsible for the delay in the submission of certain data with the
plans. He further emphasized the time factor involved, in that costs
were increasing and that if it were necessary to enter into the
winter construction season, the costs would be substantially higher.
Chairman Jensen offered comments relative to the work of the
Citizen's Advisory Group on the highway development and noted that
one of the recommendations of the group to the Highway Department
was that a 100 foot setback be required along the residential areas
of the freeway due to the incompatibility between residential uses
and highway uses.
An extensive discussion ensued relative to the possible affect
of the highway development and the Director of Public Works commented
that within a mcnth, the advisory group should have some response
from the Highway Department as to their recommendation.
The applicant stated that neither he nor the church officials
would appreciate the seeming delays in the processing of the appli-
cation, due to rising costs. A. brief discussion ensued relative
to the timing of action on the application.
The Secretary emphasized the concern of the staff regarding the
issuance of a permit for a project which could be adversely
affected by an imminent development of the highway. lie noted the
concern also that approval of the present application under the
current circumstances might, in effect, negate previous Commission
concern and policy relative to construction near freeways.
He also reiterated the concern over posing unnecessary
constraints upon the highway development Citizen's Advisory Group.
Commissioner Bogucki commented that he was not yet assured that the
applicant was fully aware of the possible ramifications upon the
church property by the impending highway upgrading.
Chairman Jensen stated that due to the facts before the
Commission, as well as the ongoing work of the Advisory Group, it
seemed unwise to give final recommendation for approval of the appli-
cation at this time, particularly considering that more data was
needed relative to the site plan itself. He also amplified the
Secretary's remarks regarding the matter of planning principles and
the Commission's concern regarding construction near freeway uses.
Following further discussion, there was a motion by Commissioner
Engdahl, seconded by Commissioner Foreman, to table Planning Commissic
Application No. 72055 until the August 3rd meeting to permit the appli-
cant the opportunity to submit revised landscaping and drainage plans
to the staff for review. Motion passed unanimously.
The next item of business was Planning Commission Application
No. 72056 submitted by Mr. John Akers. �2he Secretary introduced
the application and stated the applicant was seeking approval of
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site and building plan revision of a convenience center, previously
approved via Application No. 72029 which comprehends the sub-
stitution of a Dairy Queen Restaurant for two of the previously
approved retail units. He further noted that for this a special use
permit was requested.
The Secretary stated the amended plan indicates that the approved
structure includes one retail unit and the restaurant and that
additional parking was also indicated east of the building. He
emphasized that the application represented an amendment to the
approved plans, and it was accordingly subject to the conditions of
the approval of Application No. 72029.
Chairman Jensen noted that none of the notified property owners
was present for the hearing before the Commission sitting as a
Board of Adjustments and Appeals.
Following a brief discussion, there was a motion by Commissioner
Gross, seconded by Commissioner Engdahl, to recommend approval of
Planning Commission Application No. 72056 subject to the conditions
of approval for Planning Commission Application No. 72029 and the
following conditions:
1. All parking and driving areas will be curbed utilizing
B-612 type curbing;
2. A special use permit shall be subject to review on an
annual basis commencing with the date of issue;
3. Approval of the application is exclusive of all signery.
Motion passed unanimously.
In other business, it was the consensus of the Commission to
tentatively set a special meeting of the Commission for August 6, 1972
Motion by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Gross
to adjourn the meeting. Motion passed unanimously. The Planning
Commission meeting adjourned at 1 o' clock A 1.
Chairma
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