HomeMy WebLinkAbout1974 06-06 PCM MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF TEE CITY OF
BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COWYPY OF
HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
REGULAR SESSION
CITY ?ALL
JUNE 6, 1974
Call to Order The Planning Commissioi met in regular sesvin.r
and was called to order at 8 :0j p,m. by
Cbairman Carl Gross .
Roll Call Wirman Gross . CD"aissioners Engdahl,
Crosshans , For erai, Scott. Horan and Pierce.
Also present were Director of Public Works
James Merila and DirecLor of Planning and
inspection Blair 1remere .
Approve Minutes Fnllcwing a brief discussion there was a
5 -16-74 rot ion by Commissioner Scott seconded by
Commissioner Pierce to approve the minutes
of the May 16, 1974 meeting as submitted.
Voting in favor were : commissioners Engdahl,
Grosshans, Scott. Horan and Pierce. Not
voting : Commissioners Gross and Foreman who
were not present at that meeting .
5-23-74 Motion by Commissioner Scott seconded by
Commissioner Foreman to aporove the minutes
of the May 23, i974 ,slap Ling as submitted .
Voting in favor were Commissioners Engdahl,
Wrosshans , Foreman, Scott , and Pierce. Not
voting : Commissioner Horan and Chairman
Gross who were not present at the meeting.
Qplication No. 74031 Pollowing the Chairman ' s explanation. the
Q .W.Northr6p) first item of business was consideration of
Co-ntmissian Application No. 74031
sohnitted by R. W . Northrop. The item was
inLroduced by the Secr etary who stated the
applicant seeks permission to conduct a
EpTcial home occupaLion , which involves photo-
comp .sit:.ion typesetting , at 6613 Unity Avenue
NorLh.
chairman Gross recognized the applicant who
explained the nature of the proposed use
stating that the activity did not require
any darkroom and related chemicals and did
n2t produce any noise or vibration. He
described the photocomposition typesetting
process and presented a sample of the work .
Chairman Gross inquired as to the generation
of traffic and th^ need for parking for
customers or for deliveries . The applicant
responded that 98% of his jobs were picked
up and delivered by himself and that periodic
deliveries consisted of materials which could
easily be carried by one man into the house.
Commissioner Horan inquired as to whether
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therc were any par Licclar fire hazards in-
valved with, what chemica!3 the applicant
did use in Wo d2welopin; process, and the
nyplicant responded that there was no highly
InnTabie chemicals used and that t..here was
pmtographLc film involved, but rather
liqht-sensitive paper. in response to a
question by Com hiss ioner Pierce as to the
type of chemicals used, We applicant re-
sponded that it involved the use of an
activator and stabilizer bath,
Chairman cros3 notV WL none of tho
nDtified prupwr:y ownvas "as present anJ
he waived W ruadina or We naMeS .
by Cox,'Ansdoner Forewun seconded by Cloy= Putlio nearing
Horan to close the public
hearinj. The motion passed unanimously.
Following further discussion there was a Action Recomocnding
motion by Commissionec Grosshans seconded by Approval of Application
Commissioner Pierce to recommend approval N . 14031,
o Planning Canuission Application No. 74031 (R. W. Northrop)
submitted by R. W. Northrop subject to the
followinq conditions :
I. The use shall conkorm to all applicable
ordinanco provisions and violation
thereof stall ba grounds for revocation
of the permit .
2 . The "se shall be subject Co review in
one yeac by the City to determine
whether any problems anist relative to
parking apd tratQc.
The motion passed unanimously,
V"e "ext item of busioeAy was oousids rat ion APPIA03WA Ni. 140.,
Ot Planning Commissiin Application No. 74030 (1 . S . Anderson',
'_ !-.X'!?itted by P. S . Anderson, 5319 Logan Avenue
Ncrtb . The Rpm was introduced by the
OjrvtIr7 who stated th; applicant seeks
o! a variance from Section 35-400
n- WA coostrucGon of a garage to within
ip t• al from •hE rear WL line rather than
o5a required Koo UnaL, Hn stated that the
roar !at Q ;f the annihoant ' s propery
ostzucted W
�&OL if tin I�ar property lina, "
'nonall had approved a
lar rwqun _ . wi July 14, 1969 (Application
00038) , for the naLyliborinn property at
5317 Lugan Averue Worth , "on the basis that.
Lho cnj7ting ordinance 3tr"=ture does not
provide adequate soandards relating to
garage sCLhaCV along alleys . "
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Chairman Gross apl- ant, and
an extensive discus�Silo:,, relat,ive to
the incide-ce all--v a/s i-n the southeast
Portion of the clltv', Sec-reta.-vr commonted
that. 30' foOt a!ley. wal/':" arr" i.:;u n 3 on,.ly in
�:,,f 5 30 ) b1 o--'.k
ei
1VI a r,
s
14 fect 1.r s'i, s?.:, _ l-1-;.... �.'''.:'P r t'!I- V 4n s'
many acccss,��ry
, trUctcd uo t,,.'� t,) t"' to t.EJre-
e.t o f the 11Dj-I ft.-, _C' - ted
c a I c3t n 0
that s c, t _'a. (; 'Dj. 1. 1
toot aileys r an d
renloval
action has L 11 L-I kL W J.U e r
LJ_L, 'e -3 ao�:�quate area ,
30 foot a11cv_--'
for vehicle K.T.n'd snc)w storage.
The applicant in addition to the
uniqueness Cl.nd factors , that he
would realize a in meting the
current setback "J" _�'"'s since an access
p�coblem would an unn,ecessary
amount, of rear va�_-d Laken .
Chairman Gross O',-)t of the notified
property owncr 1,A;c'_iS se t and hE,, -V,,a'4ved
the reading of the
_j Mot i_on _b Cowi�: i secondcd b-,'r
.2
Con'aiiissioner: 'SC"" ''.t. tn the. public hea-ring .
The ill')Llon
.yLaLej' 11-is ;3.3 to
Lae fate of
rl the pro-
-,and th 7,,t p e i a ps, it should be
df�mLoli shed Lo t,tie issuance of a permit.
to -. a pp �,' ,L
C.,a.�
prefer to
the 3r,", that it
ould be I-Lsc.j t" paLc1' 'L:� tool
Lut 11L -Ig
k L' 'til
gain
f r discussion
1by
I o e I' I:enl-,)'n -ded by
'L,) --ipproval off,
1;lannin'9 74030
io permit con-
s�u -,,iLiLLc-d by P. Ai,,Jer son I
tD within one
st,rucLiora of a
foot of Lh(:-? 1Y)Y :
1 . The
doe."_; SpCC-1-fically
comiprehend thn.se parcels ab,.Ating
dedicated alleys ,
2 The, abatmn �.t 1-1r) a, w.ioe 30 fo,-)t alley
11 a T'f'�irds adeq�,,aL �,,,
e elhiicle access
a'id snow storage.-
3 . f,01-- action involving
the a,Jj&cC'nt' Parcel ,
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4 Tlie uniqueness of p�rcels abutting
30 loot alley ways in relation to
other prop-erties in, the zoning
district-,,.
The a subject to the
pproval is
followin conditions :
-j
a . The action relates only to tl-),c:
rear, yard setback and no other
variances are ,rant o.j o,1-
All other appl-JiLc-able ordinance
be mwet.
C. Tft exlsting garage will be jc-
molished or removed within 14
days of completion of the new
struc Lure.
'Pac, motic-,n passed unanimously'.
3
J' nC.Y -i of business was cons i-(- ration 0,q-)p -cation Inc?. 74025
't item
of 1->Janning Conarnission Application No. 74025 (Ic"ity Initiated)
w,riich was introduced by the Secretary who ex-
plained the item had been initiated by t'he
(.,',i-ty and involved rezoning of two parcels at
67th and Emerson Avenue North from R,-5 to T-I,-3.
IT(.,- explained the ite,,rl. ,flas tabled at tlne May 16,
1074 meet-ing, following the public hearing
L r(
. '
P(:,n�-,-L --view by the Northeast Neighborhood
Ad./i (-)rye Groulp. He stated thE' group had
approval of the' application and,
J,," L-t e mr. William Hanrjs'v,
- r from the Chairman,
�s in thc--� filo.
' - as E�oreman sIIat-,eJ
iqhborhood, h�,-! bad dis-
North,,�ast -L�e.-'
Lhe matter vi tf; t.9i Jo rthieasL
i AC r l.f=o.t y f;,rr 111-- rier crs as as net
proTer,U%r owners a n,i 'Lle, concludc-�d that
r-I t
%a c,lIxlcj
dHsci!ss.: o,rj, A-,-- Lion RecommendLi-ng
L
Y Approval of Applica-
J-Orle.'r Gro ;shatj`, to oq.)provail, tion No
74025
4 0 2,S
1 ation No.
W, ,J not.ing tliat t,he 3
L
L, I S S jS t e�?.t witln thr;, C,.)-prehensive
II '-Jb wit-In adjacc.,,rit, .land use 44-
el sp-al-,s -c Lhe issue of small.
C)f la- or
The ,--,Lion passed ur,�anirno,,-i,::,,Iy.
ri- rt. it,,nn jff -),usine�:,,�7, was Alplica-tion, No. 74032
C M" plication No. '74034'71 (B.C.I .P . Inc.)
o- ission Apt I
s .111)-.r.;-Lted by and it was introduceJ
by U,he SecrE,'Ut-Iry ex-plained the api'Aicant.
of a prel il"
Inary
r,-'I- ., .sLerf?d land for an area qenerally
i-.s no., L-herly of 1-941, easterly of
P. T-'U e and southwesterly of
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Shiinqle Creek. lie st-al,,�-d � vle R.L.S . was com-
posed of seven tracts , -wj�:ich was
Freaway Boulevard, wa6 under, cc)n-
struction. Fie noted t-t%at -.'race D was the
site of the approved xe�rined,.,Cohet-i Appliance
store.
.i a,lrman Gross reccgnized Plrl . Step': en Krogness
represented: tale appl`Lca.,it and a discussion
ea sued regardi,ng the '-, and comprising proposed
11111:a.ct %G1.
T
1) r e.c t 0 1", 0 f P I--,!(-),I j.c- W c-mze P.t e d t h a t
_--ouailable plais for t�_Ie upgrading
94, Tract
zip t--e IIwa
-)st I- ,1.'-e �r a ke.:, I -J ghy�i,
D,fpartment. Ara ensued
�3.S tO tTle po'J'Aic"." tc, �e_ Fe�r de-
,),elopme.nt in ai:eas until s?,)ch, time that
a ntore definite reading is ava—la' le as to
t.ne 11.1ghway Departme-rit ' s J_rtent.Lnns .
Cor-mmissioner Forema;i ,3t,aued Iii s concern as to
L'I,-_ eaquoity for Lite applicant in bei.fig re-
qaired to retain such la=id ,-,,,`Lthrr. t -benefit of
beinq al��Ie to de-,.Ye�o-p ,It, ._ f �azi, dcvelop-
,-c,ent -iv--re feasllb'! . . ;!e i to whether
atnw, tax break was for applicant
�f such a r;",e
jefer�.Lng the use c a p, - 1 0f
and.
Tne Director nr PE Jbl,lc respanded th,�t
t�le ap %
Plicant h_d recF!n_-. j,y i.,b,,-,)i"Led a request
az'4 'Lcr t,,ax
tills, "_ijx parcel of land.
a �,.eqli.-cdlng -the
i,q 7 e
wrlicil
, -,e Direc tor r Pub,"A'-c ViT(-,rK s expJained was
n, land
ly
C1
0 C I J, n t 0
U "a
P.� o
0 to
T 2 e f ered L,a.,nd Survey is
:.,ubject to review b-,T the C:I.ty, Engineer.
Th,_ Lln�,il t< 9J. t�er L, 3 - - r ev is
si-ibject to tli-,.e req-,Aire-111exits of Chapter
151 of the C-Luz, ordinances ,
,
L
MCL 011 passe iv
d
g
I recessed at 9.00 p.m, and resumed
-'It 9:20 p.m.
'p
Tllie laext item 91 business was consideration of
Cence'L, iaw,cee.s- Planning Commission Applicatior No. 74033 sub-
z
c 011"mi-In I,t,, cen-ter) muted by the
Brooklyn Center Jaycees . The
item was introduced by the Secretary who ex-
plained the application was for a special use
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permit in, the R-1 district per the require-
ment of Section 35-310 which states "other
ni;,ncom,rnercial uses required for the public
v,,I:;?.I-fare in an R--,I district as determined
.b-,ir the Cit-.y Couricil . "
f1e stated the special use involved the pro-
posed construction of a dwelling at 6808
Bryant Aven,,ie North which would serve as a
home for four to six persons who are de-
velopm. ent.ally disabled and who would be
clients of t1he Outreacli cc)jur«,,
,lity, Center in
M i r,r.e a p o,I i s ne stated that according, to
infonnatioli sumplied II)v the applicant, the
c1l' e.nts would be under Cne supervision of
.r,�sident Tva,'Pe -nq.nager, at-,d that the clients
wo-iald be fully efriployed.
T,-j-c-,--rce stated 'he desired to go
on, record as withdrawing -f'rom cons.ideration
of the application because of 'his partic.-, pa-
tion in the T)ro- ect as a ember of the
I J tn
Jaycees .
Commissioner Horan stated he also wished to
go on record as withdrawing from a final vote
on the application but he reserved the right
to participate in the discussion, citing the
lang�iage of Chapter 35-210 of the ordinance
relative to potential conflict of interest by
Commissioners. He explained that he w,-as a
member of the Jaycees but was not directly
i riv,-,)I,,7ed in t'hie. project.
T.In Secretary continued by reviewing
(3�=scriptive data submitted by the applicant
and Chainiian Gross recognized Mr. David Gee,
6903 IjIoled!D Aveni.j.e North w1ho stated he was
-r-o res.entirg the applicant In t1i"Is matter and
also bethe offi-cial house parent or
yg e r,,-i.s o r r i.e pre(ii is
residing on t.1 es with the
a c'h cLients, along vc� th 'ni s wife and two
oered further comments as to the
-,f th.e Ourtreach program noting that
Lupmentally disabled persons involved
,K,,ere h)jrvan, bei-ng witb significant potential
to the community despite
I lr ,11,FII,* al, or p1hysIcal impairments ,
cornxiented that he had asked several
-v,. the cominunit-, and fro.,-O. the
f ro3 I
--ar7h program to attend the meeting and
L(I !prc,°;tde the Commission with descriptive
inlp�-,,t as to the nature of the program and
t.'he perceived need for such a program in
Broolklyri Center.
CTI.airman Gross recognized, and Mr. Gee intro-
d,,jced, t1 resident manager of an established
Z- ]Trt L.-ar 'io-Poe in Minneapolis , located at
264-4 Fremont Avenue South, who described the
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nature of the day to XV operation there, and
stated that good relatinnoApA had been es-
tablished with the neigboarkrad. He respond-
ed to an inquiry by chairran Gross as to trans-
portation for the clients, that, individuals
utilized public trvnspprtntl and that they
could noftbar afford a�r, Tz many nases,
could not operate private vehicles,
Regarding required medinQ �nvy for the
clients. he stated that spTrcnivately one-
halt We residents were an ;-wr torm of'
medication, generally wbich
were utilizpd tor seizure oo�° in re-
sponse to a qurstion by com,Oswner
ornsshans, he ntawpd that a torcover of
residents was net irequent and that the
residency was generally Unq-tunn,
Chainvan crnss reanq& W, aW Mr. Gee intro--
Xced, Dr. Orn, who practInEa qnEcraj,
medicine in Brooklyn cevt6r0 HC d who com-
mented as to the nature of medical care for
the out clients , He also discussed the
general philosophy nf removing develop-
mentally retarded persons from institutions
and incorporating then into daily living en-
vironment. Be stated in this raqard that K
Outreach type of homp was a %eeded facility
and an asset to the community and the gener
tax paying public,
Chairman Gross inquired Ra ham, drug use and
whether any problems were expected as the use
of drugs was decreased. Dr. orn responded
kLat generally no probicas .Pre: realized,
since consistent with a reduction in dosage
was an increase in daily living experiences
and human development, in response to a com-
11!r,- t i°Y Coramiss inner Se,:lt, hr. orn confirmm?
Mau niten times pardenLs are more sedated in
institutions as a matter W hehavior control.
Urairman Gross recognized, and Mr. Gee intro-
duced Mr, Clitt We= who "as in Outreach
eliont aNd who apnke as to the benefits of
the Outreach Hrove in helping developmentally
ceharded persons . He stated it represented
no opportonity for persons nvch as himself to
demonstrate t-,) the coyrimunity that they were
homan icings who wanted the uhance to con-
tribute to the commnnity.
Mr. Gee conmiented that the urux of the pro-
gram was recognition of the need to place
developmentally handicapped persons back in-
to a productive role in the community.
Mr. Gee then briefly reviewed the house plans
of the proposed dwelling, noting there was a
total of 6 bedrooms with Q bathrooms . He
stated it would be of a walk-out design,
generally consistent architecturally with
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111"'Pes in the area and stated the
ce,-,-Ide on, t e Ar t 1_7 nd
r d is, f a"ri i"I,717, wo-,.i1d reside cgin the -u1per
tliat all the clients
J -i,t".1 i z in;,�
-1_ra.ti Apo rtat qn,; �,vvuld
fneallsl an'd wn,,ild -11_..
t"CI zlla rAtena r.--e
t
;d
;a-�7 .1,al"IC; coL
Tai--'re(ac-i p_r,
:�)qravr to ut,-L"L
churches ,
�a
j
e r-,t-i-Ir
(2, a r c.'s ad, �:l in, t_.,t e,C", WTi�`, 1,-
b r c`,,f tl)e 'Jaycees and as to
b; and cbaract_er c)f Mr,. (230-c. Ile
nrt,ed that Mrs. Gee 1h.ad been irivclved
a capacity and Y,,,ad wcorked
c. -sely with programs f-or t je retarded. Ile
s---,1id tbe Ge(:,ts were established residents in
ti-,e clit,.-Iy of i�rnoklyn center and were dedicated
tF 54:C'Ih, lh,uman assistance prograv,�s.
airmam c,'ress recognized, and Mr. C,,ee in-
tr-d-11ced, State Representative Ernee McArt1mr,
as to the mumber of residents
;,,ere residing in state in-
and the significance of su,7h pro-
q:ovli.s ;iz (.-,be Ciut-reach Community CentePf% Sbe
of: responsiveness
-.Irit, part icu,1;7..,rly such as
clei.-)ter, wlI._c , Are-w th
f ftrticipatir_�n, 1,;, various service
as tl-,.e PJ'aycees . Sh2 noted the
'P, 1`omuvl inity Cenb��_-r rLPI-rc.,sented an
th.P - a1 (3 her en-
a-, to ordlix.kance
- _cial nse pemit:,
cticn 35-2201. He stated
Opinion, the� special lise
fanhance t-be general welfare;
h tF,- -)perty rior
to nt -_r pr(
--�perty
d fl i n,i s and imy.a 1.r pr':.
-i Jarbcn-d; wou1d not
development
t be surrounding property
'
in
th.e district; would
i i ran, t'han tvir) vehicles wl -ch
7 y3 opera.Led by himself and his,
i -wvmld conform. with
ran I c-i _le
tat , ms f the district
M,:" 6c- F v at, d int�.,nt of the
t " A 1�,7,Y'111 2itr, C,Ity ordinance
a I I. 1 R - cts . Ile noted,
to, the proposed num er
reside in the home, it
1..,,roposal that six clients
d addit-ion to the resident
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Ie coms'Lented as to tl� of the Zoning
rd in
.,ance def,'Inition and stated it
was h 4 u...riderstandinq, t-Le was de-
L
�"e ope:d a.s a rest-ilt f:)iF 7, concern by the City
"o-'Heil. towards 'COM11, 11(le-type
situations . j"'? state d t i a t O'Litreach
�o,t e was and asked
L".a.t cl_ie t r, the facilitv
to be r'e0Lrj,CLed, tl-. be set at six.
Nrr. Gee the',I-i t Led to the
sj,,�,,n,ed bV wh,-.) Jndicati.,' their support
the pros r- sect -ion ze Gross
not:e.d -"_-_"iat only, a. Of
G it a t i-i r e s a p
peared' to be ft'ow, 'persoris _,; �,) resided in the
, _. ;.ed'late ne--
k_'h�airman Gross zed, ;,n6 M-r. Cee in-
troduced, mr. Rc:_-' Craig, E�,ecut'-LN7e Director
of the outreach r ce_riter who Com-
i,,l.er,ited as to -the _-,oncept -in-,' intent of the
progrwm, In response to a question
Oy '_Iofrotissioner !,r.dahl ,�:egarding the amount
o f Lral"fic genera red tc-.. the site by visitors
u-f the clients, (,Iraiq stated that there
would be normal jiv parents and
relatives but LI)at it t,,;'as not likely there
k,.19-tAd be a street ftill, c> cars.
An exte-risive Ojlscilssior, t.f-ieni ensued regarding
the tots .t_ ofd t rstet 4 'proposed for the
home and Chairic",aii Grc',ss that the
ordinance specifically t aed family as one
r more persons re!_ !_-ed !-A.00d, marriage,
r adoption, or a gro!.11p of n.ct more than
unrelated r-)ers eras . Gee reiterated
e desire (..)f the outreach program to have
six clients ir� .add iti.(.')n to Lhe resident mana-
-1-r and his family of
i- e�, ZS-cretary comrLter)ted L-",).a.t as a special use,
L i I,e- a�pplication, was si,-ib'Iect to restrictions
'.s to the number of personks involved and he
�;tat-.E-d that it t;)as re-,_'!o-n�rrien'Jed t,,e maximum
Q, -)er' of cliei-ILs at five. He
f,urtrjer tb--?,t Uiis fit 4 t
. ire was con-
ly approved human
�:t,rvices homes iin� the Citv F,,-id noted also
at it .,)a s c,,o r-i. s t e n t. J tfti S t a t e guidelines
day care anJ foster, ---are facilities .
Gross recoqn.ize-d. M.-c. lired Willard,
tlir.lted that he was
Avenue Nk i -t�-
fnember of th,e ;"Jt% cen-,.ricil. at the time the
4 -L i r-i L i v n o f f a,,n i.I y es L,.�t bl J.shed and said
original c.-,) kern had been to provide a
,_otntral for li-\,ying in recognition of
life styles . He stated the main
issule then was one o,"' I ` fe .styles and not of
density® Mr. Gee commented further that the
6asic concern of the applicant was economic
and that based upon -the L'Ji-nancing available,
there was capacity for six- clients.
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Chairman Gross noted that the neighboring
property owners had been notified and he
recognized Mr. Biddle, 6801 Bryant Avenue
North s noted that he recognized the ex—
asphisnal efforts made by the outreach
yrnqram and that be, in fact, had signed
ton peVition in support of it on the basis
ct hjmanitarlan grounds .
Fr 8tated he telt that was the main thrust
cf the neighborhood support but that since
signing the petition, many of the neighbors
Kna dovPjaped certain reservations. ale
stated his connarns ranged from the kate
of rAp home 64vold the program be terminated,
tAe ramificatiuhs upon property values in
POP imppdiate neighborhood; assurance that
-�c- R-1 character of the nelqbborhaodwonld
e roWned since the proposed structure in
effect was at least a duplex, if not a
malvi-residential facility; the extent of
drug n8e in terms of the realities of
prMential. problems versus the theory and
gQnd intent of the applicant; and the
pn slhle precedent for further special use
pefnits which might result in rezoning of
prnpertien in the area,
Chairman Cross then recognized Mr. Mathieu,
6811 Bryant Avenue North who stated be also
had signed the petition primarily for humani--
tarian roasnns after listening to Mr. Gee ' s
pr= sontation a week earlier. He stated his
c"nrerno ivoinded those stated by Mr. Biddle
aw -oil as questions as to the duration of
the manager-resident and how Eirm the
resident manager' s comnitment was.
M-, npa responded that the initial term of
rfnAdent-wanager was for two years and
K nnted the licensing and scrutinization
"Ka ntnip and County for programs such as
%�,r, craig was recognized and stated
-ne PaWble an individual could be
Q' W ir WhId terminate his position as
— r -nnoms earlier than the two year
Tot that the likelihood was
�Icn inquired as to how the
m 4A was determined and Mr. Craig
P4 Va% while it was arbitrary,
it bad been felt sixteen and
-as a desiraLle number. He stated
tooling 01 t"he Outreaclll colluflunity
Center was that six represented a suitable
n"mber of persons which could be adequately
supervised by a resident-parent.
ChairTan oross also recognized the resident
of XWO Fryam Avenue North who stated his
C007prn in to the number of clients which
Pr involynd in the home and stated he
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felt it should be less than six,
Chairman Gross also cecwqAlzed the r _& 5eits
of 6824 Bryant who stated tKeir concern as to
the fate of the structure if the program
should terminate for any reason. They stated
their concern was Gne of zoniqg and use an,''i
t, hut. tuey yeaerally were not in favor of
the applOption.
Following WrLher disc"ssion Chairman Gros::
stated it wps apparent thaL the neighborhow
residents, a3 well as the loWsojen, 4Je re
in naeu or Myther dcOurtive OoU regardir ,
Wm Oywieaw� PrDquo - concuyL � �6 ke 50q--
ji": l..C..tr that "r,wy W th, i cn ncil yeetin4,
Lne appilcant ;wAnjam a turn� no, �" Wn wany,
of the quasUwus could be answered .
Cnairman orass n, ed that there was a number
of other citizeny who wished to make comments
and he recognizeu the resident of 4.518
Kinchester Lane, All woullyn Drive. 7207
RwyanL, 609 Tnl :nnues North, who stated
they gwverally v ae in favoz ot the concept.
Malryan Gross Woo cec3j"Wed the residents
oL 32 Bryant, 603 bcounL and u845 Bryant
Avenues Norilh, Wo smed thev were skeptical.
W the proposal and not their concerns as
to the oEfect na properLy values, the rela-
Lionsb,jo of L" res , W"Ls of Lhe proposed
home to children in too area, and the zoning
secondod by
�-
nqisndouex A: wtt Lu wInse Lne public
rinq. Che -Mi .n 0- ,nnd unanimoubly .
"Aajonev . s nj hu the fee
n. c of t1w fu k4 ALA mi . Gee re--
.�adeu that ar wouln W We nwLreacb Com-
awnter. c v s ss Lunn u Grrsskans also
qIAL�n Ou had —�P qansni"u as La the
110110tlun 0! k-n 0 waes qUh the OuLreach
�Y, L , 'n"Kno, Av . Cra 11 and Mc. Gee
W n7lc ; " j the wula tqa Jaycees
C piayj a 1 ! n tnuir Ff WrLs Lo establish
treach 1 -o : W1 in Ufnoklyn Center.
SnML itstud that wbiLe she
re"synized they, lv, o n need for such a center
UI- 40 I _ rsiotoj r"KInn in her mind that
. .na - is needed as no the actual
�v"w� Llaa and Atunt of Lhe program. Com-
Psnjoner Mrewan noted the basic concerns of
Us NuediaLe neighboring property owners and
;Ianed that not many were in favor. He
vMLed that m-st, of Lhose Mo had spoken in
favor of the application were not from the
Mmediate drea . He agreed with Commissioner
OcoLL Lhat further information was needed and
LOKL he did not feel outreach or the Jaycee=
had Gone a hhoro"gh job in discussing the
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untrar with property owners .
CoW ,21nner imbahl njrcoa that more study
,70 incarnation woo needed and commented thalt
M -00 FnPOAPY dot, Wr3d be seanred as to
to �Ycrahjnpi in michfivid and MinneapnliB .
arnsshans aqr6ed that while th,-
intt nr of cap 7ragram snundcd gnod, be wa,-;
n7n w�ry n7 Y7 vhe qnslQ7 nr We Mail
nPef9tvan tar the 3ack no information.
Ahnlr�wn Vrv,n nimmed or One anncarns of tK,�
- '��Qsxinn SPIKOW Wt At Una their firot
0 > pnx� j, 0 , K, P ; QOWRI and yprarnnN Y it
w,c Or Brah nypownre hy
N-V?Io� ino nF . Wontv. w rpcomweVed
t�� UPPIArat? "n to Paryin tho applicant tAc,
nDp-r- In nponanr N qveshion W answer
AAF : 1 ; coorcoviv pr3gown for the onigh-
I -Nny yrnyert7 owners ana other interested
pqrtles ; and alan, to prrmit the Plannincl,
k -m�isvlin no gather nnru spnoific informa-
K 'n r-lnn�vv in the 07trpaoh prograw
om"tnted thzt he would be willing
a 7oduch s-rh a seminn for the nnighoor-
KnW sHhnogh he stated he assqmed he had
alycadv done Wds,
OWTKn by, UnTmissioner Engdahl secnndod by Worn
C Knor F�rvman to table Plannin-,-� ti nn on. 74031
Nn. 74033 until the (Brnoklyn Center aayc
&��a Octh stndj meeting to permit the
unk th- opport"nity to cnnduat an
vasion regariNg the ontreach,
�'I'rnver praqrin. Motion
ApyVaRtinn no. 74034
P! : not Ko Ono h7snciates)
"ni Associates ,
"hn S-cretary,
01 -0 vqg for approual
Fir = LWI nlka'zz
ACT
40S an vvv i
hPah the donsity,
0 n"Ild he 10'.
Irc FePt V�
UN L
%nae provides,
LPO ! rod parhing stall nnder
qaive iect way he de-
land area reqnire-
-2
Too Site A, 2"
-416 he masible for a
He noted
that for Site B, 2 aWitinnal units would
be possible but that the a7ylicant had
elected to in` lude only one of those anc;
that the total for Site a wis 12 units.
chairman Gross recognined Hr. Ron Luedke
who repuesented the applicaot and an
extensive discussion ensued rclative to
the landscaping and screening on the site.
chairman Gross also recognized Mr. Aker,
6743 Dupont Avenue North, aid E review of
the plans en s mad.
Speoific attention was direatA to the
nature uf the screening fenac on Site A
abnttinq the reWentia! .rte peyties lacate,3
on Dupont Aven"e. The Secret tar-,,,, com-mented
that the ordinanco req"ires a winimum 4-foot
high opaque fence or otqer approved screening
device and that the plans provided for such
a fence atop a 3 _o 4 Coat beat. He noted
that the fence wn.-„ not continnoos as a re-
sult of certain drainage considerations and
of the applicant ' 7 intent to provide a
visual break by Anzorporating clusters of
plantings intermLittently along the property
line. Mr. Aker stated that his preference
wonld be for a cone in non A fence.
During Nrther discussion, Mr. Luedke in-
dicated it was the intent of the applicant
to develop the site so wo be compatible with
neighboring properties nnd Ont any reasonable
options with respect La scrnowing and land-
scaping would be considered.
The Secretary noted also that the plans in-
dicated five 6-incb diameter silver maple
traps to meet the ordinance requirement for a
minimum 6-inch dinwemr Tonq -lived hardwood
"ANety. He recommended that another variety
of long-lived hardwood such as green ash be
substituted in lieu of silver maple trees,
in yards abutting the streats. He explained
that silver maples rave histories of root
Pcoulems which interfere with walkways and
drivewa7s, and are subject to attack by fungi.
le noted, however, that silver maples are
good shade trees and would perhaps be appro-
priate in the rear yards of the project.
During further discussion Chairman Gross de-
tecmined it was the consensus of the Com-
mission that the required minimum 6-inch
diameter long-lived hardwood trees be on a
green ash variety and be located in lieu of
the indicated silver maple trees . It was
also the consensus that the required opaque
fencing along the property line abutting
R-1 parcels provide a minimum 6-foot high
screening, which may include the use of berms .
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Commissioner Grossharis stated his concern
as -to the width of the proposed driveways
and following a discussion with the Director
Public Works it was the consensus of the
c.e.)mmission that the driveways be widened
to 16 feet.
In further discussion Mr. Luedke stated
that it was the intent of t-he applicant to
rent the units and that the 'projects would
be built in one phase. He stated that de-
pending on tree status of the economy and the
ability of individuals to secure housing
financing, t-1he developer v�ould perhaps, in
the future, convert the -units to condo-miniu-ms, .
Chairman Gross stated that in light of past
exp,,;rience wit"n a similar townhouse project
Which abutted single family residential
parcels, it would be appropriate for the
applicant to meet with neighboring property
owners prior to the City Council- meeting to
develop a firm anal agreeable landscape plan
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for the sites. Mr. Luedke stated that the
applicant would be amendable to &Anq this
and during further discussion it was de-
termined that a meeting would be scIneduled
on the sites for 7 :30 p.m. on Tuesday,
June llth. The Secretary commented that
neighboring property owners would be
notified of the meeting.
Following furull ,r discussion there was a Arltioli Recommending
motion by Canunissioner Scott seconded by Approval of Applica-
Cor,vnissioner Foreman to recomnend approval, tion No. 74034
of Planning comanission Application No. 74034 (Mork and Associates)
,:;labmitted b,,/, Mork and Associates subject to
th- following conditions :
1 . Buil-ding., plans ars subject to re-
view by the Building Official with
respect to ;applioable, building
c,A-,s prior to the issuance of
re its .
7 r-0 i �)inage, utility', and
- _ng, Jr,
b c rnlli;aq plans are subject to review
by the City Engine prior to the
Js77nance of permits .
31 A performance agreement and financial
(in an amount to be de-
t-rriinond by the city Manager) shall
he n_ibmitted to assure completion of
reqi-ii-red improvement.,,
4, At ;uch timc that the ownership
and/or management and maintenance
of all outside common areas and
common fracilities should come under
tl�e Jurisdiction of a homeowners
association, t-lie homeowners associa-
tion agreements and bylaws shall 'be
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submItted Lo Lhe ic
si�bject to review 'oy the City
A.--',--torn e
Doirling Ule construction period and
1-i,ntil tae a.ppro,,;,cd bermIng and
p e rnia.nent tencinq, is installed,
the applicant shall approved
temporary screening, s�--ch as snaw-
fencing, -.irnlind the :Vi=e' l-,meter of the
--onstcti :lLion sites as a-,pproved by
of end
Tnspe,cf--)
r d --ra ion
f the a ppl L,`--xe applicant
sl-t,all, a meet` ng with neigh-
boring props ty owner.---; for purposes
of discns-s.ing the proposed screening
and landscaping for the 5ubject sites.
7. Approved ril,-,,,,S e,-)ns and c-orrection of
dimension u��I.screpancies shall be in-
dicated otj, plans before sub-
_ssion to -(-.he Citv Council.
T"t-le rn�?tion passed
Ad r nm e n-t mi-)Lion by Cnimmissioner Foreman and seconded
by Commissioner Engdahl, to adjourn the meet-
ing. motinn pa.-.,,sed una.,-Amously. the
Planninli, Co-.minl.�;Jnn meeting adjourned at
12 :55 a.m.
6/6/74
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