HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018 07-09 CCM Joint Work Session with the Planning CommissionMINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER IN THE COUNTY
OF HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA
JOINT WORK SESSION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION
JULY 9, 2018
CITY HALL - COUNCIL/COMMUNITY MEETING ROOM
1.CALL TO ORDER
The Brooklyn Center City Council met in Joint Work Session with the Planning Commission and
the session was called to order by Mayor Tim Willson at 5:00 p.m.
2.ROLL CALL
Mayor Tim Willson and Councilmembers Marquita Butler, April Graves, Kris Lawrence-
Anderson (arrived at 5:32 p.m.), and Dan Ryan. Also present were City Manager Curt Boganey,
Deputy City Manager Reggie Edwards, Community Development Director Meg Beekman,
Planner and Zoning Administrator Ginny McIntosh, and Carla Wirth, TimeSaver Off Site
Secretarial, Inc.
Others present were Planning Commission Chair Randall Christensen, Commissioners Alexander
Koenig, Jack MacMillan, Stephen Schonning, Rochelle Sweeney, and Susan Tade were present.
Planning Commissioner Abraham Rizvi was absent.
3. JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL 2040
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCUSSION
Mayor Willson thanked the Planning Commission for their work on the 2040 Comprehensive Plan.
Community Development Director Meg Beekman summarized the presentation that will be made
tonight including a compressed presentation followed by rapid fire questions and answers with a
follow up at a future Work Session meeting during which more information will be received.
Jennifer Haskamp, AICP, Owner and Principal Planner with Swanson Haskamp Consulting +
Planning (SHC), LLC, introduced herself and recognized the Planning Commission for their work
on this document. She reviewed the topics to be covered tonight, noting anything missed will be
discussed and covered at the next Work Session.
Ms. Haskamp described the purpose of a Comp Plan to establish goals, strategies, and a long-range
plan for the City. Comp Plans are required by the Metropolitan Council along with a 20-point
checklist that must be followed. She explained their intent to address the checklist items while
assuring a balance the City feels good about and wants to use to do a better job.
Ms. Haskamp explained the checklist and draft Comp Plan get submitted to adjacent jurisdictions
for a six-month review. Following that, the draft Comp Plan is submitted to the Met Council for
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review. She stated the 2015 System Statement from the Met Council identifies forecasts for
housing and employment by 2040. The Comp Plan needs to be drafted to meet that 2040 estimate.
Jay Demma, AICP with Perkins + Will, highlighted key facts, forecasts, and finding contained in
the Background Report that shows a current snapshot and what the Comp Plan is being built from.
He reviewed the population growth rates from 1970-2040, showing most growth by Baby Boomers
in the 1960s. He noted there is an expectation of consistent population growth, similar to Hennepin
County until 2040 at which time the City exceeds it. This is, in part, cyclical because aging
populations are replaced by younger populations with families.
Mayor Willson noted an increase in population can also occur due to higher vertical density.
Mr. Demma presented the 2016 age distribution of population, household, and family types
showing an increase in those with children. He next reviewed community diversity showing racial
and ethnic groups that are well represented in Brooklyn Center when compared to the rest of the
metro area. This may show potential challenges and barriers for them to integrate into the
community if language is a barrier. However, since 2010 the number of those who do not speak-
English well or at all has decreased.
Mr. Demma reviewed median incomes and poverty levels, noting peak incomes occur when
resident's age hits 45-64 and then income declines through retirement years. He explained the
overall poverty increase can also be a reflection of the fact the City has a younger population and
not yet in the life cycle of higher incomes.
Councilmember Graves suggested that diversity also plays a part in that.
Mr. Demma agreed that can be the case. He then displayed a map depicting areas of income
categories, noting it does not show pockets of affluence.
Ms. Haskamp called attention that when looking at block group levels and looking for patterns,
such as poverty thresholds, it groups more than by block group, creating and including large swaths
of area. Because of that, it does not tell the full story of what is going on in the neighborhoods but
it does tell the relationship between transit market areas because they are not as heavily funded or
served by the Met Council.
Mr. Demma stated the data includes number of cars per household and how transit dependent those
residents are. He explained that transit investments should be concentrated in areas of transit
dependency.
Councilmember Ryan stated having done an extensive and broad-based survey of the City, he has
seen in driveways of single-family homes and multi-family parking lots repeated examples of cars
sitting with expired tabs, some being inoperative vehicles. He stated residents hold them because
they cannot afford to repair or replace them at this time, which anecdotally correlates to that last
point. He noted the absence of mass transit to serve that population is acutely apparent.
Mayor Willson stated they also cannot afford to get rid of those vehicles.
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Ms. Haskamp stated the graphic depicting households with no vehicles and pockets of higher
poverty all have vehicles because they need one since there is not frequent transit choices. She
explained this shows a relationship between what you intuitively think should be happening and
what is not.
Mr. Demma stated another consideration is the high cost to own a car when your income is low to
begin with.
Ms. Haskamp used a map to point out the alignment of the new transit line and existing transit
lines, noting they do not show the frequency at which they run. She stated the northeast area does
not receive as frequent of service as other areas, which can be patterned depending on how fast,
frequent, and reliable the transit is.
Ms. Haskamp noted with the first piece in the discussion guide outline, they have identified there
would be up to 2,216 new households between now and 2040. For Brooklyn Center, that is a big
number and needs to be discussed in how that works in relationship with the market. Mr. Demma
stated going out to 2040, that is 100 households per year, a sizeable apartment building or 10
blocks of new single-family units.
City Manager Curt Boganey asked for elaboration on the underlying assumptions indicating that
household growth.
Mr. Demma explained the Met Council looks at historic trends throughout the metro area, which
overtime has experienced steady growth, so they feel confident looking at historic trends. Going
out 20 years, the Met Council looks where in the region that housing is expected to occur. One
thing is shifting household types from aging population into maintenance free housing, the cultural
dynamic of younger persons with digital focus and preference to live in areas closer to transit, mix
of uses to walk to job and entertainment, and the dynamic behind housing costs. Also, because of
the severe housing bust, and that younger populations are more reluctant to purchase a house.
Brooklyn Center is centralized in the region and with an employment community, they will
experience more housing growth.
Councilmember Lawrence-Anderson arrived at 5:32 p.m.
Mr. Demma next addressed market considerations, noting across the country the rental market is
extremely tight today so rents are rising rapidly, typically up to 10% year after year. This makes
it difficult for folks to stay in their housing over time. So, within the region, development of new
rental housing has focused in the central city and select neighborhoods but is now moving to
suburban areas as that market is reaching saturation in core cities. In addition, strong job growth
fuels rental demand. Mr. Demma noted the for-sale housing market has recovered from the bust
that occurred 10 years ago but there is still a low supply of homes for sale and in particular with
the entry housing market so prices are bit up and affordability is lower.
Mr. Demma stated when first looked at, the Brooklyn Center prices were still below the pre-bust
peak but those prices have increased in the last year and are now above the 2006 peak. Single
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family construction has lagged but is now starting to pick up and condominiums/townhomes are
well behind the pre-bust pace.
Mr. Demma reviewed market trends with retail, noting that industry is currently undergoing major
changes due to the slow growth amongst major retailers and the greater emphasis of selling an
experience as compared to selling a good. He also reviewed office market trends that show fewer
square feet needed per worker so less demand for space with a greater emphasis on locations near
transit and neighborhood amenities, less emphasis on campuses or districts, and increase in
telecommuting.
Ms. Haskamp explained the process used by the Planning Commission to derive the goals and
strategies by review of the Background Report, market considerations, and development of a
framework to start with. Then an analysis of Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunity, and Threat
(SWOT) was added to the structure to determine priority. Topics and themes then emerged such
as community image, land use and redevelopment components, the housing component, which
rose to the top due to Met Council projections and interest in the condition of the current housing
stock and neighborhoods. The Planning Commission created a 15-page list of items that were then
prioritized.
Ms. Haskamp used the idea of Brooklyn Center being centrally located and accessible by car due
to freeways and major thoroughfares. That idea turned discussion to consider how that shapes the
community, especially since it is known that younger populations want to live by mass transit.
Ms. Haskamp stated another idea is that if everyone is always going out because of the freeways
and major thoroughfares, the question is how to get people to come and stay in Brooklyn Center.
Another discussion was on the diversity of the community and the significant change that occurred
in how your neighbors look, how to use it to promote the City as an interesting place to be, how to
embrace that and make housing stock more accessible and livable, and how that marries into
business. The issue of business incubators, how to create it, and where it goes was another big
discussion by the Planning Commission.
Chair Christensen stated they used to have Brookdale, which was the destination draw, but now
the City is trying to figure out destination with the projected growth and how to attract and set up
the businesses. He stated the St. Louis Park West End has commercial up front and the parking
ramp in the back, getting people in and out, which was also a big discussion.
Councilmember Graves stated she has talked about business incubators since before she served on
the City Council so she is happy it is being discussed.
Ms. Haskamp stated she attended Holly Sunday and Earle Brown Days and a number of people
communicated the desire to have small businesses, local restaurants, and a place for local
entrepreneurs and Artisans to do their craft so there is a clear desire to provide that type of space.
Mr. Demma described the creative adaptation of existing buildings, such as a lumber company,
and how it can work really well for a market environment.
Mayor Willson stated Boston also has a lot of incubator business spaces. He stated the City
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Council hosted a Pop Up Saturday and is looking for space in The Crossings to find a more
permanent location for entrepreneurs starting out.
Mr. Boganey asked what is driving this interest in small incubator shops and to what extent the
critical mass is population around those spaces for the economic success of an incubator. He also
asked what income levels play into that success. Mr. Demma stated he is not an expert in creating
that type of business plan but traditionally, with retail space, inevitably the owner is looking for
credit worthy tenants. That, by in large, is a national retailer who comes to the table with deep
pockets and amazing credit resources so they are able to sign a ten-year lease. However, in this
internet age, the credit worthy retailer model is shifting to on-line sales. Where the innovation
happens is small entrepreneurial, family-owned businesses that know the local market but the
barrier to entry is an issue. Mr. Demma explained that finding how to lower that barrier can include
temporary spaces, supportive subsidized spaces, or working with non-profits, but they all take a
lot of effort.
Mayor Willson stated in New York, when Bloomberg was the Mayor, they looked at their small
businesses, incubator spaces, and laid out blocks for small businesses with few employees. At that
time, it was indicated that 60% of growth in jobs and new jobs was coming from new businesses.
Councilmember Ryan commented on why areas with an overabundance of obsolete but
salvageable structures should not be over looked. He noted Northeast Minneapolis had
substandard housing and there was critical mass of young people who wanted to do those things
who were also involved in the arts. It worked in Northeast Minneapolis because Minneapolis-St.
Paul has long had a recognizable music scene, theater, and plastic arts. In addition, it has long
been recognized that an old industrial building can be leased cheaply and then you can undertake
art production. This has exploded in Northeast Minneapolis as seen at the Art Crawl.
Councilmember Ryan noted if those elements are on the ground and present, it can occur. But to
start business incubators in Brooklyn Center, there would need to be initial funding to start them.
Mayor Willson described the French Quarter in Quebec that has old houses with commercial
businesses on the first floor, noting Boston has similar areas. He agreed that Brooklyn Center does
not have that type of old structure buildings so the City would have to go from the ground up.
Councilmember Ryan noted the storefronts behind the Target strip mall could perhaps be
considered, Mayor Willson stated that mall has been looked at by several groups.
Mr. Boganey asked whether folks are asking for more accessible businesses, different kinds of
retail opportunities, jobs, or the opportunity to build a business, noting depending on the issue an
incubator business may or may not be the answer. He stated the City has strict regulations for
home businesses and while that is the most economical way for that to happen, it changes
neighborhoods.
Ms. Haskamp stated from an anecdotal perspective, what makes some incubator spaces work is
the identification of gap in a small geographic area that a resident thinks they can fill. It may not
be the need for formal space but being able to work from home, if there are structures large enough
to accommodate that such as an attached/detached garage space.
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Ms. Haskamp explained the goals and strategies indicate the answer is not fully known at this
point. She stated if retail has changed significantly, then what is Brooklyn Center if not Brookdale.
Ms. Haskamp stated when asked, that is when ideas come forward about the type of incubator
space, neighborhood nodes, or converting houses along a street for retail use.
Councilmember Graves stated she has an intuitive connection and agrees a move towards creating
an experience over selling a good is a consideration. She stated people want a space where they
can work with another and help someone fill a gap. She stated she has defended when residents
defined as 'black-owned food trucks' and wants to assure it calls out people to support those
vendors.
Ms. Haskamp stated people prefer to go to a locally-owned restaurant over a national chain, even
if the food is not that great, because they want to support local people.
Ms. Haskamp stated part of the strategies identified need to talk about maybe not having the answer
so a strategy is needed to figure it out. She asked how it is learned what the community really
wants, needs, a community gathering space, during what season, and what type of facility they
need for their business. Ms. Haskamp explained the Comp Plan can lay out those strategies,
perhaps establishing a task force to engage entrepreneurs and find out what they need and want
and how it can be supported through policies and zoning, which is part 2 in the process.
Ms. Haskamp presented the goal statement action words, noting each is ranked in one of three
categories: no commitment of financial investment, may include financial investment, or
commitment to financial investment, if needed. Financial investment can also include staff
resources and policy directives. As a homework assignment, she asked those present to focus on
the action words and determine whether they are correctly ranked. She also asked them to
determine whether something is missing.
Ms. Beekman stated the City Council will receive an electronic version of this information along
with instructions on items to review before the next Work Session.
Mayor Willson agreed with the importance of refining the Comp Plan language before the City
Council commits additional resources.
Councilmember Graves asked what was discussed around youth, the City's biggest population.
Ms. Haskamp stated nothing targets kids, but in her opinion, kids are little people and covered in
many goals and strategies when you think about setting aspirations. She stated they are part of the
City's fabric, noting the Plan language also does not separate out seniors.
Councilmember Graves stated she would like to address growth of young people into 2040 as it
relates to economics, access to jobs, and skills. Mayor Willson reviewed a meeting he attended
with other community representatives where they discussed how to work more cooperatively with
schools to assure youth have life skills as well.
Councilmember Graves stated the City has made some steps and she wants to assure that is
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supported and expanded to meet the City's needs.
Commissioner Sweeny asked Ms. Haskamp to talk about the input she received from kids during
Heritage Days.
Ms. Haskamp stated the best feedback she receives is from kids because they are willing to say
things their parents won't say and 75% of Heritage Days and Holly Sunday responses were from
kids. At Heritage Days, people were asked to write on flags what they hope for or want for the
community in 2040 and housing was one of the topics. One kid said his mom can't find a place to
rent that has enough bedrooms so if there were places with more bedrooms and they wouldn't have
to share a bedroom, it would be cool. Ms. Haskamp asked whether the City's housing stock
matches the resident's needs. Another fellow, when asked about housing, took a flag, sketched a
bungalow, and wrote 'bungalow' on it. When asked how a 10-year old knew what that was, he
said he had watched a design show and they seemed like nice houses so the City should have more
of them. Ms. Haskamp noted kids' responses are reflected in this language.
Mayor Willson stated they are very bright and already thinking about their future.
Ms. Haskamp stated the last and important piece is identifying areas for redevelopment and mixed-
use designations.
Mayor Willson commented on the City's Overlay District, which has been a strategic piece for a
number of years and agreed it should be looked at to determine whether it should be changed or
things done differently.
Ms. Haskamp used a map to point out the overlay corridor that will have a land use to
regulate/guide and be an added layer of refinement. She asked if areas not directly on Brooklyn
Boulevard should be included, noting that adds the issue of penetrating into residential
neighborhoods. It is currently depicted at 500 feet in width so that takes in the full block. This
overlay would not obligate taking in all of that land but allows consideration of it with performance
and design standards included that have to be addressed to protect single-family residences. If
considered, she suggested the corridor be wide enough to be successful.
Mayor Willson asked if it should be wide enough to provide a buffer between uses. Ms. Haskamp
stated she is buffer averse and prefers to address that concern through design guidelines and uses.
Chair Christensen stated Ms. Haskamp has done a good job of including the 2030 Comp Plan
pieces and urged reading that information to create context.
Ms. Beckman stated staff will send out an electronic draft this week as well as the questions to be
raised this evening for a more robust discussion at the next Work Session.
Mayor Willson suggested the City Council attend an upcoming Planning Commission meeting so
there is enough time for discussion.
Ms. Haskamp thanked those present for taking time for this presentation and review.
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4. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Willson adjourned the Joint Work Session at 6:33 p.m.
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STATE OF MINNESOTA)
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN) ss. Certification of Minutes
CITY OF BROOKLYN CENTER)
The undersigned, being the duly qualified and appointed City Clerk of the City of Brooklyn
Center, Minnesota, certifies:
1.That attached hereto is a full, true, and complete transcript of the minutes of the City
Council from the City of Brooklyn Center Joint Work Session with Planning Commission
held on July 9, 2018.
2.That said meeting was held pursuant to due call and notice thereof and was duly held at
Brooklyn Center City Hall.
3, That the City Council adopted said minutes at its July 23, 2018, Regular Session.
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